Nadine Dyer (00:01.036)
Welcome back, beautiful friend. We are so happy to have you here. I am so happy to have you here. I am joined by Ms. Marya Patrice Sharon. And she is, I mentioned this at the last episode where we heard her story, but she's a speaker, an author, a business owner, an advocate, a mama of boys, just an amazing woman. And the topic that we talked about last time was her story of how she went from dying inside

to stepping into it was time for her to dance and really owning that. And if you haven't listened to that episode, go back and listen to it. Cause I think that would be really helpful because today we're gonna go practical applications. Like how do you take it and actually start stepping into your dance and discovering what is your dance and all that good stuff. Okay. I spoke a lot, Marya, welcome back. Happy to have you. Yes. All right. So let's have practical applications. You know, the topic is it's time to dance.

Marya (00:51.37)
Thank you. Still so excited.

Nadine Dyer (01:00.416)
Number one, maybe we start with like, what does that mean for anybody who missed the first episode? And how do you do it?

Marya (01:08.47)
Yeah, you know, I love, dance is the metaphor of dreams, of purpose, of seeds planted in you meant to blossom, right?  It's gonna mean something different for everyone. And I think that exploration is so valuable. Dancing is living fully, completely.

Boldly embracing your gifts and talents embracing your story and sharing them. I think of the word whimsy When I think of if someone were to say well, how do I dance or how do I find that thing? What what I don't know for me. It was writing. It was always storytelling whimsy what makes your spirit what makes sure you're, you're just gives you butterflies when you think about it?

Peeling back the college and the jobs and all the things that we're supposed to do. What gave you joy when you were a child? What are those little things that we had thoughts about? Like, I should do a cookbook or I'd really love to teach moms how to garden. I would really love to dot dot dot. And then we dismiss them because they're like fantastical ideas. They're not practical in this work, work, work.

Parenting, mothering, all of the  structural things that we do in our traditional  Western culture and life. What brings you whimsy? I think that's when you start to get close to your spirit and what's been planted. It just makes you laugh. It tickles you, right? The Holy Spirit plants that. That's a tickle. That is a joy. That's something we can't explain.

Nadine Dyer (02:51.342)
Hmm.

Nadine Dyer (02:55.255)
Yeah.

Nadine Dyer (03:00.75)
I love that. I love that recap and how you explained it. And I love the way we wrapped up the last episode as a question you asked where you said, what is buried deep in there? And if you ask that question, you'll find it. You'll find the answer. That's part of your purpose, right? And it doesn't serve the world for you to hide your purpose. And it doesn't have to be anything crazy big, right? You don't have to be an author or a speaker. It could be being a great mama. It could be being a great daughter. Could be, I don't know. I don't know, but,

Marya (03:25.716)
Yes.

Nadine Dyer (03:30.411)
I think sometimes we think it has to be so massive and so big and it's like, no, it just has to be authentic.

Marya (03:36.234)
Yes, you're so right. You're so right. You authentically, you planted in you. You know, being an author and a publisher, the story and what that means in my life. One of the, one of my favorite verses and I'm going to botch it up, but it's in 2 Corinthians and it's, talks about times of trouble that we've gone through. And then it says, so that, so that we can help others, right? That our stories,

our whimsy, our dance, your dance, your whimsy, your story, your purpose has far greater purpose than we often recognize. And when people see you walking and living out what you were planted here for, it's so permission giving. It is life

at its fullest as it was designed to be. But you're so right. We have to ask those questions first. We have to identify it. What is it? As we said in the last, like, what is it that was buried? What is it? It's there and you know it's there. You know, you know, there are some you're listening right now and I know exactly what it is because I've been afraid for 20 years. I don't even speak it out loud.

I was doing, I had a conversation with someone, Nadine, and it was the first time that I ever revealed the fact that I wanted to have a show, like a talk show. I wanted to interview people and hear their stories because I love story. And as soon as I shared that, I regretted it because now it held me accountable, right? I wanted to help.

You know, because stories heal, stories motivate. What you're doing right now, you're speaking, you're collecting stories and they're going out there and people are gonna be moved and changed and inspired. There is so much beauty in that, but we have to address that. I'm afraid of this. What am I afraid of? Am I afraid of failing? Am I afraid of succeeding?

Marya (05:56.456)
Am I afraid that if I speak it and then don't do it, people will criticize me or judge me? I don't know. But those are the hard questions we have to ask. know, because I experienced that like, you said it now. You said it. You have to do it. You know, no, maybe I do. Maybe I don't. But you know, we'll see where I'm led. But I shouldn't be afraid to speak it.

Nadine Dyer (06:17.794)
Yeah, yeah. So you know what keeps coming up for me is sister that is listening, I wanna give you permission to play, to dance, and if you don't know what your dance is yet, to dive into that discovery mode. I want to give you permission, and you need to give yourself permission, but if you're not there yet, we're gonna give you permission, okay? You have permission to go discover your dance,

Marya (06:41.771)
Yeah.

Nadine Dyer (06:47.654)
and to face the fear and fear is going to come up and you know we can dig it up and go to therapy and and maybe that's part of the journey or maybe we just say I'm gonna do it scared. Maybe you just say I'm going to do it scared. So permission to dance permission to start asking the hard questions to dive into that. Okay that's part of the practical application. What else? What else would you say Marya

Marya (07:00.875)
Yes.

Marya (07:09.654)
Mm-hmm.

Nadine Dyer (07:14.924)
to a sister who's listening going, I'm ready to dance? I'm tired of dying inside. I'm tired of hustling for acceptance or hustling to prove something or whatever, right? Whatever it is that we're trying to do. How do we help them start dancing?

Marya (07:32.17)
You know, I, on brand, the writer, for me, journaling is so huge. And I believe I said it in the previous podcast, but if you ask the right questions and the hard questions of yourself, holding yourself accountable to answer.

Number one thing I would do is I would I would write and ask myself what what is it? What is playing to me? What is dancing to me? I love what you said permission to play, right? That's almost sounds like a whole other book and project, but that's really what we're saying. To get out there and intertwine and mingle with your dreams and your purpose, right? So exploring, you know, to put it out there for not ready to speak it, to write it down.

For me, part of the process is always praying over it because I also lived a lot of life doing things my way. And that just didn't work. And the fact of the matter was what the Lord had for me was so much better. I was missing it, right? So I submit that, okay, well Lord, here's what I want. Here's what I see. Here's what I feel. What revealed to me what the next step is. And I think that's so prayer. And then the next step is

Nadine Dyer (08:28.994)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Marya (08:44.554)
The next step see we don't have to have a plan. I know business plans make a lot of sense for a business, but sometimes it is just "the" next step what is one thing that I can do this week? That will take me one step closer to this thing Could it be calling a friend reaching out to someone who's doing it? You know one thing and that is how progress is made because one thing a week in a year.

Nadine Dyer (08:49.838)
this

Marya (09:14.838)
It's unbelievable. One thing, one thing. Maybe that's just it. One thing a week. Little thing, not huge, doable. You we don't want to set these big grand goals because that's when we, you know, it doesn't work and we give up.

Nadine Dyer (09:16.76)
Hands up. Yep.

Nadine Dyer (09:29.824)
Yeah, We get overwhelmed. We're like, I can't do this. And doubt creeps in and guilt creeps in, you know, all the things. Like I love that the next step sometimes is the next step. It's so simple. I just love that. I heard you say explore your dance. I heard you say pray, ask for divine wisdom. The next step is the next step. I want to like repeat the do it scared.  The other thing that keeps coming up for me is

Marya (09:40.777)
That's it.

Marya (09:46.454)
Mm-hmm.

Marya (09:54.836)
Yes.

Nadine Dyer (09:59.424)
Anytime I've stepped into like a dance space from a hiding space, I had to let something go. It was an old identity or there was an old tape that didn't serve me or there was an old habit that I actually had to let go of in order to step into the new, the authentic.

Marya (10:07.83)
Mmm. Mmm.

Marya (10:21.942)
I mean, I'm getting goosebumps when you're saying that. Yes. So for me, it was Marya had all of the answers before she showed up to something. Cause that's what professors and that's what people who know a lot do. We know all of the answers. I would never arrive unprepared. No one would ever be able to ask me a question that I wouldn't be able to answer. That was the baggage that I had to leave from bondage to dancing. I had to say,

Nadine Dyer (10:29.88)
Mmm.

Marya (10:51.592)
I have to be okay saying, I don't know. I don't know. And that's okay because I'm willing to do the work to figure it out. I know how to ask questions, but pre I wanted to have everything done before. No dancing is, is that next step? I'm here. My answer is yes, Lord. I am here. I said, yes, I am here.

Nadine Dyer (10:57.592)
Yeah. Yeah.

Nadine Dyer (11:10.412)
Hmm.

Marya (11:20.554)
I haven't planned, I'm allowing you to do that, now what? And you know what happened most of the time? Someone would cross my path that knew and that would help me over and over and over. I could talk for hours about how I have been guided to where I am right now. From the publishing to the filmmaking, the authoring, somebody has helped me, right?

Nadine Dyer (11:29.996)
Yep. I can see the link.

Nadine Dyer (11:47.234)
Yeah. Yeah.

Marya (11:48.81)
That came because there was a yes. And I walked into that space and being okay with I don't have to have it all figured out. I don't.

Nadine Dyer (11:57.102)
Yeah. Right. And in order for there to be a yes, you have to say no to that perfectionist. I must know. I must have all the answers. It was like this. It like starts with the surrender.

Marya (12:11.008)
Beautiful surrender and how I say beautiful that weight of leaving all of that entering the dance door, the dance room, the dance auditorium, the dance world. I had to leave all of that there because the fact is we can't dance with all of that baggage.

Nadine Dyer (12:28.556)
I mean, you could have just looked terrible. You you can see all the baggage. I can vision it.

Marya (12:33.11)
It had to end. And the point that you said Nadine about doing it afraid for me, that was fearful because I needed to know everything that was part of my acceptance and identity journey from the childhood. I needed to know it was not okay not to know. And in order to walk into that space, I had to face my greatest fear of whatever looking stupid, not being accepted, being looked down upon, whatever it is from my past.

Nadine Dyer (12:41.752)
Yeah.

Marya (13:02.902)
To say you have to walk in this space and say I don't know. I'm walking in obedience and I don't know anything else. And the freedom I mean I can literally take it off a backpack with 80 pounds in it that you've been lugging around, for you know 40 years. You can't take it with you. You cannot take it with you through that door. It's a beautiful image. Yeah

Nadine Dyer (13:20.14)
too long. Yeah.

Nadine Dyer (13:26.902)
And you know, the other thing that I keep hearing is part of the journey is accepting ourselves as we are.

Marya (13:36.533)
Yes.

Nadine Dyer (13:37.324)
You know, because I think for a long time I was trying to fit myself into a mold of what I felt was acceptable in order for me to be whatever, right? All these standards that I had put on myself. And then it was like, wait, wait, wait, this is who I am. This is how God made me. Let me play with what I have versus try to be something I'm

Marya (13:58.656)
And I think that the cost of that, and I did that for the majority of my life, trying to fit a mold and be what everyone expected me to be and what I thought I was supposed to be. The danger, the tragedy, right? Like someone asked me once, what's your greatest fear? Hands down, my greatest fear is leaving this space, being with the Lord and Him saying, know, Marya, I just want to cry talking about it.

I gave you all of these things. I put you in this situation in the right time and the right people. You had it all and you left it or you ignored it or you didn't do anything with it, right? I just living is embracing all of me. All the way that I've been woven together my gifts and they're different than yours and me celebrating mine

and celebrating my uniqueness and that is what I would love every, each one of us each one you listening to see every aspect of yourself there's a reason why my hair is curly. It is my personality. It manifests the sort of wild creative nature. Embrace that. Why spend all of these years changing who I am? There's a reason why I'm very passionate and loud when I speak that that's part of me being a storyteller.

There's a reason why I'm abstract in nature. That's the artist. These are all my beautiful gifts that I was trying to hide, almost get rid of. I think I would have cut some of them off. No. Every part of us, every part of you has purpose and it's beautiful. Right? It's a tragedy that I spent 47 years, but man, the comeback is something beautiful also. So I can

Nadine Dyer (15:54.818)
Here it is.

Marya (15:54.87)
So I can take that lesson and share it and I can do better. And so can you, we all can, we can do this.

Nadine Dyer (15:58.06)
Yes. Yeah.

Yeah. I love what you said about like we celebrate our own  gifts and talents and everything that God has given us, right? And I also say like, let's celebrate each other's. You know, when we see another sister dancing, let's not compare. Well, she's dancing or judge or gossip. Like what a waste of energy. Let's go up to our sister and go. I love your dance. I love the way you dance. Let me show you how I dance.

Cool, let's start a dance party. Okay, so I maybe took it a little extreme, but you get what I'm saying.

Marya (16:35.766)
That's a podcast in and of itself because yes if we if we really feel whole in our giftings, we can see others and not compare and be like man, she is thriving where she is rooted. And how can I support and we even how can we dance together? Not in competition in support. Yeah, not that that is that's next level, right?

Nadine Dyer (16:52.78)
Yes.

Nadine Dyer (16:57.954)
Yep. Yep.

Nadine Dyer (17:04.972)
Yeah, That's the world has changed. When we all bring our dance, right? And then we all dance on purpose, in our purpose, in our giftings, unapologetically. Yeah. All right. So we're at that time. So, sister I'm so happy that you joined us. I believe if you are here, it is time for you to dance. It is time for you to give yourself permission to start exploring that.

It is time for you to let go of the old and replace it with the authentic.  It is time for you to explore and pray and do the next step, because sometimes that's what it is. The next step is the next step.  It's time. It's time. So I invite you to dance. invite you to just... And you know what? When you start, you might look silly and people are like, look at her, she's dancing, she's weird.

But quickly you'll catch on and you'll figure out your dance and you'll figure out your rhythm and I just want to invite you and I'll be dancing. So just know that I look silly on the dance floor too.  But I'm good with it and I have a freedom. So Marya, this was so rich and so inspiring. Anything you'd like to wrap us up with.

Marya (18:22.1)
It's time.

Nadine Dyer (18:23.79)
It's time. I really believe if somebody's listening, whoever's listening, I believe it's time for you to step into something. And I believe this is your nudge right here. So don't ignore it.

Marya (18:40.906)
Amen.

Nadine Dyer (18:40.994)
Thank you, Thank you sister. We love you so much and we will catch you on the next episode. Bye, ladies.

Marya (18:47.766)
Bye.