00:00 Jeff: Is this thing on? Ready, man? No helmet? Yeah, good times, good times. We’re just gonna sit here and get it wrong right in front of people.

00:18 Scott: God damn it, Scott.

00:20 Mike: I don’t remember what I talked about five minutes ago. Once I get it out, I just let it go, Scott.

00:28 Scott: You know what? Fuck the internet. The internet’s just trying to gaslight me.

00:32 Mike: Ta-da! I could touch my own butthole, but it still seems really weird. (Laughing) Hey Scott, Scott, Mike’s back.

00:43 Jeff: No, I made this guy laugh in the restroom.

00:48 Mike: Oh, that’s hilarious. Now we’re just gonna sound weird as fuck.

(Intro Song and Grit City Podcast Audio Clips)

01:31 Jeff: Man, that elevator music was sick.

01:36 Scott: (Sound effects) Welcome to the Grit City Podcast, New Year’s Eve Chit Chat Edition. I’m Jeff.

01:45 Scott: I’m Scott.

01:47 Mike: And I’m Mike.

01:49 Jeff: And it is 12/31/2025.

01:54 Scott: Oh, should we give a time? What time it is, too, so we can give a little countdown just in case we stay on?

01:58 Jeff: Oh, you know what? Yeah. So I was going to do a New Year’s countdown. I’m having flashbacks. There we go. So what do we want? We want CBS? Do we want Eyewitness News? Do we want New Year’s Ball Drop in New York? AP?

02:22 Scott: Ball drop. Every time I search for "ball drop," it comes up different. I’m all like, "what the fuck?"

02:29 Mike: Yeah, you know that algorithm is based on your searches, right?

02:32 Scott: That’s what they say. I don’t believe that shit.

02:37 Jeff: I’ll do the—let’s do the Times Square one, what the fuck, right?

02:40 Scott: Yeah, that sounds good. Any of them, it doesn’t matter. It could be anything.

02:47 Jeff: So I remember, so a long time ago I was doing AV for a company and we’d go to like, you know, if you’d have a party, you know, you go and set up and these were in the higher-end hotels and I did a New Year’s Eve countdown. And it was kind of like we had like six different screens and each had a different thing going on. And it was kind of like if you go to a bar and they have all those screens but your game’s not on, you know? And people were yelling, "Singapore! Put on Singapore!" Like, who the fuck’s gonna get Singapore? "Put on Scotland!" There you go.

03:34 Scott: That’s New York then, huh? Times Square right now?

03:37 Jeff: I’m going to say yes.

03:39 Mike: New York is two hours out, though.

03:41 Scott: Yeah. Who’s next right now?

03:44 Mike: Uh, Nova Scotia? Argentina?

03:48 Jeff: Oh jeez, I don’t care about those guys. Do they—do they practice New Year’s Eve? I don’t know how to say it.

03:57 Mike: "Do they practice?" Wow. "Celebrate?" There we go.

04:02 Scott: I think the whole world celebrates New Year’s except China—they do their own.

04:08 Jeff: I don’t know why I put "news countdown." I told you I was fucking high. Let’s see, "New Year’s countdown." Oh shit, I just spilled my fucking drink. God damn it. Yeah, of course, and it does like it adds—like, "Yeah, I want the New Year’s Eve countdown for 2024. Thanks." No.

04:30 Mike: So those are good for people with little kids. You’d be like, "Oh yeah, it’s New Year’s, it’s over, time to go to bed."

04:39 Jeff: That’s a good idea. Did you do that? You totally just lied to your kid?

04:44 Mike: Yes, absolutely. Every opportunity I get.

04:48 Jeff: Oh, this one’s with a dance party. Oh, here we go. God, that’s scary. Yeah. Oh, that would give—I’d have an epileptic seizure just looking at it right now.

05:03 Mike: That Australian lady had some large bresticles.

05:08 Jeff: Whoa, I’m scared what this is. Oh, you’re just looking at his—at the thumbnails on his YouTube channel. That’s hilarious. Oh my gosh, this is so cute. Oh, "The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives." What the fuck? Okay, I’m clicking on it. Oh, I have that! We could probably—I could probably stream... oh, fuck. They’re not doing a countdown. They’re not doing a New Year’s Eve countdown. What are you guys watching?

05:37 Mike: In my pants. No, I’m kidding. They don’t believe in New Year’s Eve.

05:40 Jeff: They’ll be "balls dropping." Yeah, they’ll be "balls dropping" all right. Right on their face. Right off their chin. Oh Jesus. That was awful, that was an awful start. We apologize to any Mormon wives.

05:55 Mike: Isn’t this gonna be an R-rated one? Yeah, well aren't they like the swingers? Yeah, that's exactly—I don't think—I don't think they're really claimed. They don't claim 'em.

06:05 Scott: So who has one hour, 49 minutes, and 46 seconds?

06:10 Jeff: That’s New York.

06:11 Mike: Mike’s like, "I’m not making it that long."

06:14 Mike: Oh, absolutely not, dude. I just—I was trying to do the math. I’m like, all right, I got one drink, it’s got eight shots of whiskey. After midnight, I got three hours... yeah, I can do that.

06:28 Jeff: Whoa. I might cut that part out. (Laughs) Yeah, that’s fine. Let me make a note, shit. That music was—it’s pretty horrible. Oh, where’s this? Puerto Rico or something?

06:42 Mike: Oh, there they go. Yeah, Brazil! Yeah, Brazil just did it. All right, there you go. Happy New Year, Mike. Go to bed.

06:51 Mike: What do you mean "go to bed"? I got—I got peanut butter and jelly, I got a lip full of caffeine. We’re ready to go.

06:59 Jeff: That’s right. That’s right. For like 30 minutes? Are you a—are you a Zyn guy?

07:04 Mike: No. Oh, hell no. That shit’s nasty.

07:07 Scott: Dude, people love 'em.

07:08 Mike: I use Grinds. It is coffee. Just coffee. No nicotine, no—no bullshit. Just coffee and it tastes kind of good. In a pouch? Yep, in a pouch, yeah. Actually, I had a dude—I was buying Grinds at the gas station the other day and a dude standing behind me was like, "Have you tried Zyns?" I’m like, "No." He’s like, "These are great, they’re green tea." I’m like, "Okay." He’s like, "You should try one," and he opens his—like, pulls one out of his pocket and he’s like, "Here you go," and I’m like, "Uh, okay." And then he started telling me about the history of them, how it was some baseball player that started the company and—like, he just went on and on and on. I was like, "Holy shit, dude, I’m just trying to buy fucking pouches and leave." But I tried it, made my fucking lip sting. I was like, "This is gross."

07:58 Jeff: Oh, dude, they just wound me up. I took a—and then I took like one of the big ones, I was with a buddy and we were drinking, so it was a good night that night. There you go. But no, I’m not into them too much.

08:10 Mike: I heard they do—CBD pouches. I might actually try one of those, figure out where to get 'em.

08:18 Scott: Dude, before—before Zyn, I would get, um—when I was driving all the time for work, right? I would get the gum. I’d get the nicotine gum.

08:28 Mike: Ugh.

08:29 Scott: Oh, dude, there was—dude, I would not fall asleep for like six hours straight. Just put it in your lip for like, I don’t know, five minutes until it started burning and then pull it out. Oh my god. Yeah. That’s what she said. Just let it soak, boy, while we’re watching them Mormon shows. Let it soak. Just don’t move it around. Put it in and just let it soak. Doesn't count if you don't move, right? Right, right. What was—what was that song? The "Poophole Loophole"? Remember that? Yep. By—not Hall & Oates, but Garfunkel & Oates. Garfunkel & Oates, yeah. Oh fuck, what happened? Oh jeez.

09:23 Jeff: Right on. So who’s—where’s the next New Year?

09:27 Mike: Venezuela, man—or, yeah. Let’s see.

09:31 Jeff: I don’t know, I clicked something on my fucking computer and now it’s doing weird shit. I’m hearing voices.

09:36 Scott: Oh, we can’t play games in here, can we?

09:38 Jeff: I don’t know. No, not in this. We have to go out to the... shit. One moment. I gotta pull it back up. Nova Scotia, Goose Bay, Canada, Guyana, the other parts of Brazil.

09:55 Scott: Canada? Canada gets the New Year before America? That’s kind of fucked up.

09:59 Mike: Yeah, what the hell, man? Have you seen—never mind. American school system. We’re good.

10:05 Scott: Oh. If you were gonna say a globe, I was gonna say no, but I’ve seen a bunch of discs that I brought into the podcast.

10:14 Mike: Ah, flat discs, huh? Nova Scotia New Year’s. Okay, I’m going to start the stream again. Screen...

10:23 Scott: They’re flat with a dome on them, dude. Yeah. Like a—like a snow globe, kind of.

10:31 Mike: Oh, okay. So like a—like a Jell-O mold?

10:34 Jeff: Sure, like a watch face. There you go. Yeah. Whatever, dude. He brought proof. Yeah. No one’s brought a globe in, not one—not one guest in ten years has brought a globe in. That was pretty convincing. So that’s Sydney?

10:51 Mike: Next is Argentina, the rest of Brazil, Guyana, Halifax, Nova Scotia, and then whatever Goose Bay, Canada—whatever part of Canada that is.

11:07 Scott: So do you guys do—oh, sorry Mike, go ahead.

11:11 Mike: No, I was just gonna say and the rest of Greenland.

11:15 Scott: And the rest of Greenland. How many chunks is Greenland in? Uh, one, two, three, four... they actually, they dip into five. Damn. Yeah, Greenland’s made... I didn’t think they were that wide. I like 'em wide. Uh, do you guys do New Year’s resolutions? If you haven’t noticed, or if you haven’t been on the Discord, we have a couple of people who have posted some stuff in New Year’s resolutions.

11:44 Jeff: Yeah, I saw that. I saw, um, Eric’s—I liked Eric’s—and Derek’s. Eric and Derek. Yeah, about having fun next year.

11:57 Scott: Yeah, Eric’s was about having fun next year. They kind of took this year too seriously, I think.

12:03 Mike: That’s a good one.

12:05 Scott: Yeah. And then Derek was doing something kind of for himself, something creative, it sounded like.

12:11 Jeff: Right. Something new, yeah. Something new. You know, just every time going someplace new, seeing something new, trying something new.

12:19 Mike: My resolution for next year is to maintain my current streak of 45 years and not letting my thoughts become felonies.

12:28 Scott: Dude, I like that! Because I am not a felon either. (Wink) No, no wink. I’m not a felon, god damn it.

12:40 Mike: I’m not a felon. There’s nothing in my record currently.

12:45 Jeff: No. That’s a felony.

12:48 Mike: Actually, there is nothing in my record currently other than...

12:52 Scott: All right, we get it. You’re good, dude.

12:56 Jeff: I was just stopping. God. Get—get Mike a star.

13:01 Mike: I know, you get a star, okay. Shit. I just want to be the role model.

13:10 Jeff: One of us can run for office.

13:13 Mike: Well fuck, look at our President. Anybody could run for office.

13:17 Jeff: Okay, two of us could run for office.

(Commercial Break: White Mountain Cooler)

13:51 Scott: It’s been a long day.

13:53 Mike: Yes. I had to shovel twice today. This is bullshit.

13:56 Jeff: What? You got that much snow?

13:59 Mike: Oh, we’re in this weird thing where we keep getting like two inches a day. And it snowed this morning and I was like, "Oh, we’re probably done," and I shoveled everything out and then it fucking snowed all afternoon. Like, god damn it.

14:14 Jeff: That sucks, dude. It was foggy here today. Yeah, we were bitching about the fog.

14:21 Mike: It was not foggy here. Did those fireworks—are they still going? Well, yeah. Like for twenty minutes? This is Sydney, bro. This is... oh, okay. Sydney hit New Year’s, uh, nine hours ago.

14:44 Jeff: I thought Jeff was still on, 'cause it says "Live." It says "Live."

14:49 Mike: It says "Sydney" up there. So I think some of them do like—and New York even might do that, where like they do countdowns for the other time zones as well.

15:00 Jeff: Oh, right, right. Oh, look at that. So—so this might still be the Brazil, Greenland... yeah, the current time zone is just Brazil and Greenland. Well, we can see what else is on. I don’t care, man. Oh, let’s try Big Ben. There you go. Have they already done their New Year’s? Before I say something—and Mike yells at me. (Laughing) Hey dude, don’t make me—don’t make me pray. Not about the American learning system. I know, shit. If the world was round, this wouldn’t be a problem, but it goes in a circle. It’s very confusing to me. (Laughs) England is GMT, Greenwich Mean Time. They are zero on the time zone thing.

15:57 Jeff: Oh, are you serious? Wow.

16:01 Mike: Hey, look at Seattle. Oh wait. So what are they counting down for then? Uh, I don’t know. I’m beginning to question the "Live" thing in the top. Yeah. I don’t know. Well, this isn’t live, I don’t think. I just clicked on a thing. This could be from 2024. Oh yeah, it’s "Live" at the top. Oh, that’s 'cause he’s live, though. That’s not on the video. (Laughs) God damn it. Yeah, I was like, "Why is it only 7:20?" Oh, 'cause he’s sharing it. Oh Jesus. That’s funny.

16:38 Jeff: You guys have fireworks going off at your place?

16:42 Mike: Not yet, but we’re still two and a half hours out.

16:46 Scott: Oh dude, as soon as it got dark, fireworks... yeah, that was fucking... we get Midwest fireworks at like midnight where everyone goes out and shoots their damn guns and shit. Ah, yeah, okay. I could see that. I could see that. Okay, I’m going to click on one this is "Live." Let's see.

17:05 Scott: It’ll go nuts here at midnight too, but yeah, you get 'em off and on all the time.

17:11 Jeff: Oh, it’s 2020 London Live. Maybe that’s why. No, I’m kidding. Now this is Paris Live. Live. That does not look like Paris. Whoa. Oh, that’s a commercial! Oh, you don’t pay for YouTube Premium? No. Why are you streaming? (Laughs) Just kidding. I know, why am I streaming? (Laughs)

17:39 Scott: So you guys didn’t say—resolutions. Do you guys do resolutions? You can say no, it’s cool.

17:45 Mike: I don’t—I don’t do resolutions. At all? How about you, Jeff?

17:48 Jeff: No, not really.

17:50 Scott: Yeah, I don’t either, man. I feel like they just set me up to fail. Why? I just—I just feel bad if I fucking don’t do it. The whole—wait, hold on, I just read that comment. "Not me, I can’t be a rapist." Ah, damn. (Laughing) He meant—he meant he can’t be President, right? Yeah. Oh, okay. I was like, "Whoa, dude, what? Okay, that’s a good resolution." Um, yeah, I don’t—I never understood the like—the New Year’s resolution, like, "All right, I’m starting in January, I’m going to do this." Like, why do you gotta wait till January? Just fucking start now. Well, it’s just a good—people like a—like a clean slate, right? So they like to start at a number. That’s why people have bidets. Yeah, but that number is fake. Exactly. So just fucking start. It’s easy to remember, too. Like, it gives you a date, right? And so you can always go back and be like, "Oh, I started this on this date."

18:51 Jeff: This is pretty cool. My wife wants to go to Paris.

18:55 Scott: I thought you guys had been.

18:57 Jeff: No, we’ve been to London. We landed in London and then we went the other way. That’s a lot of people.

19:09 Mike: Yeah, they’re all French.

19:10 Jeff: Whoa. I bet they’re not all French, but I bet a lot of them are. Ooh, that’s pretty cool looking. What’s the name of that—that arch? Uh, Arc de Triomphe. Is it the de Triomphe? I think so, yeah. Does it say so on the screen somewhere and I just don’t see it? No. I just—I just pulled that out of my... out of my butt. No, that’s—I think that’s what it is, yeah. De Triomphe.

19:35 Scott: It’s cool that they—I guess people—nobody can—if we do this as a podcast, nobody can—nobody can see it—but they’re showing the arch in—in Paris and they’re—there’s a light show on it. It’s—it’s really cool.

19:48 Jeff: Yeah, more—more than a light show. It’s one of those 3D things where you actually see a video played on it, in it, around it. Yeah, the arch becomes part of the scenery of the movie playing, yeah. It’s pretty nice. That’s pretty cool.

20:07 Scott: Ah! I know, the eyes—eyes are weird, right? That’s kind of looking... they just picked a random dude from the audience all of a sudden, he’s like, "Wait..." Like the fucking—was it the Coldplay show where they picked that—that dude and that girl and they were cheating on 'em?

20:23 Jeff: Right. Yes. They played it on the fucking—the arch on New Year’s Eve. Like, oh fuck. Yeah, the dude, he’s like, "You gotta take that down right now. I’m a big CEO guy. I got lawyers." And they said, "All right." And the internet replied, (Laughs) or the internet’s like, "Hold my beer." Yeah, yeah, we’ll see.

20:56 Scott: Did you see, um—I don’t know, have you been following—God, we haven’t talked really since before Christmas, huh? Oh man, have you been seeing they released a bunch of Epstein files? You saw those?

21:09 Jeff: No.

21:10 Scott: Have you been—have you been looking at all? I should wait for Mike to get back, huh?

21:14 Jeff: Oh, no, no. I work for a living, Scott. I don’t have time... I’m sorry.

21:18 Scott: Shut up. I was going to say it’s been in every newspaper and on every television. I was saying the Epstein files were released, Mike. What’d you think?

21:26 Mike: Yeah, okay. The redacted Epstein files.

21:31 Scott: What’d you think, Jeff?

21:34 Jeff: Well, you know, dude, they’re just trying to protect victims. Duh. Whatever. Sure. Duh. They put the victims’ names in 'em though, but they didn’t... yeah.

21:47 Scott: Did you guys see where they had just—they hadn’t actually redacted a bunch of 'em, they just used a black highlight? And so people were just—copying it right through it? Yeah, they were just copying and pasting it into Word and the words were still there so they could read it. Yeah. Could you imagine being that guy? Like when that memo went out, they’re like, "Um, whoever did pages 41 through 75..." Fucking... I don’t think they found anything in that stuff though, even in the stuff that was unredacted. I don’t think there was anything in it. Not really. I mean, nothing new, right? Dude, I haven’t seen anybody go to jail. Or anybody get prosecuted, right? The naming people... they—they have initials and names and their houses and or—where they live and a bunch of stuff, but they’re like, "No, no, they didn’t do anything." That’s great. I’m sorry, I don’t—I don’t want to get too far into it. I just think it’s hilarious. It’s not funny, it’s really sad. The files are sad? I mean, the fact that they exist... the whole situation. Yeah, the whole situation is fucking terrible, dude. The whole thing is sad. Ugh.

23:07 Jeff: Bonne année! Bonne année! New Year? I guess.

23:14 Scott: Oh, it can’t be now. Paris? This has got to be a replay, right?

23:20 Jeff: I don’t know, I’m just clicking buttons, man. I don’t know.

23:24 Scott: It’s only been half an hour. It’s only 7:30 our time. It’s definitely not midnight.

23:29 Jeff: I don’t know how time works, Scott.

23:33 Scott: This is—this could be proof the world is round and not flat, right? It’s actually happening every half hour and they’re not telling you, they’re just pretending it’s every hour. Huh? Sure. No one’s with me? No. No. Fine. Fine.

23:53 Jeff: Yeah, this doesn’t say "Live" or anything, so yeah, that’s probably a replay. But that was pretty cool though, man. That was pretty neat.

24:02 Scott: It is pretty cool. The light show on the—on the arch was cool.

24:07 Jeff: So they say—this says "Live." L-I-V-E. Dude, I hear the fireworks going outside. But if it’s live, how would they have that? So maybe it was live. Now it’s replaying. I mean, that’s England, right? 'Cause that ain't Seattle. Yeah, yeah, this ain't Seattle. Oh London. Oh, you want to see if I can find Seattle? See what that looks like? Too late! Nova Scotia. I’m pretty sure there’s not a big population in Nova Scotia.

24:40 Mike: Yeah, I don’t know about the... fucking turn off the fucking bell for God’s sake. Jeez. Christ. There they go. They’re testing light, here we go.

24:50 Jeff: One day ago. Oh yeah, that’s a test.

24:53 Scott: I love how we just all shut up and start listening to the news. Silent.

24:59 Mike: Fox 13, man, haven’t seen that in forever.

25:02 Jeff: Gonna find, um—one that’s live, bro. Right there, there you go. Oh no, that’s in New York. I mean, you could do that one. I’m down. I’ll find—all I’m finding is New York, man. That’s fine. Do a New York one. I’m down. Mike’s got to go to bed soon. No, I’m kidding, I’m kidding, I know, I know. Yeah, but I mean, we’re not going to have another New Year’s celebration for at least a half an hour. Yeah, yeah, we’re good. We can—we can shoot the shit. That’s going on right now. All right.

25:30 Scott: And we can watch like whoever’s—whatever they’re doing in New York, like whatever fucking character they get up to fucking entertain the crowd. Dance in front of the people.

25:41 Mike: Whoa. Isn’t it—didn’t Carson Daly take it over for what’s-his-name? Uh, Dick Clark. Yeah.

25:51 Jeff: Carson Daly? That guy was like 2006.

25:54 Mike: Dude, Carson Daly’s on the fucking Today Show now.

26:00 Scott: Wasn’t he like an MTV VJ or something?

26:02 Mike: Yes. He was big in the 90s.

26:06 Scott: Good for him. Yeah, I know, he made it. He did. He had to sell—sell his soul, but he did okay.

26:12 Mike: I mean, he was banging—uh, remember it was—Jenny McCarthy and Carmen Electra back—back in the 90s when the... what the hell was that show? It was like "Angels and Demons," it was some like dating show or something.

26:28 Jeff: I do not remember this.

26:30 Mike: Oh, come on. 90s dating show. Yeah, I don’t... MTV, right?

26:36 Jeff: I don’t remember.

26:39 Scott: Dude, I want to put—commercials from like the 80s and 90s in our—in between our breaks in the podcast. Um, we had a...

26:48 Mike: Oh, I found it! It’s called—it was called Singled Out, man.

26:55 Scott: Oh, I remember Singled Out. That was where—yeah, that was like where they’d get like two or three people—oh no, that was like Blind Date, right? Which one was that?

27:04 Jeff: No, I thought Singled Out had Carmen Electra and Jenny McCarthy, man. Oh, okay. It was a dating—dating game show.

27:10 Scott: Oh, that’s where they ask questions, right? And then someone went on a date afterwards, right?

27:16 Jeff: Fuck, I don’t remember. What were you going to say, Jeff? What was the one you thought it was? You remember this dating show going down, bro?

27:24 Jeff: No, the—that guy—one—one of the guys was, uh—oh man, I forgot his name. I was going to say his name but I can’t remember his name. But he was in like a Rob Zombie movie and he did, um... like Nerdist-type of stuff. Maybe he did Nerdist. I can’t remember his fucking name.

27:48 Scott: I don’t know. Dude, they had all those—look, Planet Fitness fucking paid, right? To get their fucking... look at all these Planet Fitness people out there.

27:58 Mike: Oh, dude, all they did was—is when people were showing up at Times Square, they just had people standing there with fucking merch bags. "Here you go, here you go, here you go."

28:05 Scott: Well, they just showed people walking by in the other shot and they were just carrying—nothing but blue and yellow fucking big balloons.

28:13 Mike: That’s funny as shit. They’re still just handing 'em out.

28:18 Scott: Uh, that’s funny. So there was a dating show on MTV where people—that was Blind Date, right? No, what was the one where they would go and there would be like one—like one guy and like three or four girls? And they would fucking send 'em home. Like, oh... oh, oh. Do you remember that? Yes. Uh, shit, what was that? 'Cause I just remember it was super cringe. 'Cause it would be like—like they’d just be sitting there, they’d making out with one and then they’d just turn around and start making out with another one.

28:53 Jeff: I was like, "What the fuck?" It was bad, dude.

29:01 Scott: Mike’s typing away. (Clicking sounds) Oh, can you hear that? My bad, dude. No, you’re fine. No, it’s great, I love it. Lets people know what’s going on. (Laughing) Yeah. They can’t hear the—the stream, the—the any of the stuff coming from Jeff’s stuff, yeah. Yeah, the video stuff. Did you find it? That show?

29:30 Mike: I did not.

29:32 Scott: Now I’m going to have to look. God damn it. It didn’t exist. I don’t know what we’re talking about. Oh, it definitely—definitely existed. Oh yeah, I—I remember now. Yep. Oh, there it is. MTV, jeez. Which one is it? Studs? No, maybe that’s not it. Damn. Two guys go on a date with the same three women before the show. The women describe the dates and the "studs" had to guess which woman said what about their interactions. No, that’s not it. (Laughs) Did you say "studs"? Did you actually say "studs"? All right, Studs. Oh no, it was more like—it was like, um... I swear it was like one—it’d be like one guy and like three girls. Or three girls and one guy.

30:28 Scott: What was Singled Out like? Oh no, Singled Out was like a—it was like a game show.

30:32 Mike: Yeah, Singled Out—Singled Out was like the—like the old-school dating game where they had one person was the—the person and then they asked—they had like 50 people answer questions and they would eliminate them.

30:45 Jeff: One second. Blind Date! Blind Date! It was Blind Date! Yep. I found it.

30:49 Scott: Yeah. That’s weird, though, because when you think of Blind Date, that seems like... well, see, and I thought Blind Date was where they—they would have like two people just meet up, right? That haven’t met each other and then they would go do things and then they at the end they would be like, "Oh, we liked each other or we don’t."

31:07 Mike: Well, there’s a new version of it. Blind Date TV series ran from ‘99 to ‘06? Shit. That’s—that’s probably not it because I wasn’t—I was in the Navy and not watching TV at that time.

31:21 Scott: Ah. Man, that’s going to drive me nuts now. It might not even be a real show.

31:26 Mike: No, it is, 100% because for some reason I... here it is right here.

31:31 Jeff: No, this isn’t it, dude.

31:33 Scott: No, maybe. Do they all like hang out at the end? They don’t, right? I love how this turned into the fucking 90s fucking dating show... fucking podcast. I remember one episode where they were all like riding in like a wagon or something together and it was like—like three dudes and one chick or one chick and like three dudes, right? This isn’t—this isn’t the start to a bad porn or anything. I was going to say... (Laughing) Jeez, man, jeez. Uh, what was it—did it have that rock and roll guy in it? It wasn’t the Rock of Love or anything? Bret Michaels, that’s his name. I don’t think, um—that there was a host. There was hos all right. (Laughs) And boats. Boats and hos. What the fuck? Maybe it wasn’t a real show, I don’t know.

32:26 Jeff: It was a porn.

32:27 Scott: It might have been. (Laughs) I don’t think it was, dude.

32:33 Jeff: What was the name you thought it was again?

32:36 Scott: I thought it was, uh—oh, it was Fifth Wheel. The Fifth Wheel. Boom, is that it? I’m going to put "The best of..." Oh no, that’s a fucking—maybe it was called The Third Wheel. Something like that. Third Wheel would make more sense. The Fifth Wheel is a movie with Kim Kardashian, that’s not it. Not that I’ve seen that, but it just came up on IMDb and I clicked on it. No, that’s not it either. It was something like that, though, where—because it was—they had like odd number of people. And—and they would just do Elimidate.

33:14 Mike: That sounds accurate.

33:17 Scott: That’s what it was! Oh, right here is even the picture I was thinking of. Fuck yeah, I’m the best! (Laughing) Your Google-fu is better than mine. Oh, god damn it. (Laughing) So you said that and I—I finished typing and the first thing that comes up is a Reddit for Elimidate for Xenials. Look, this is even what I described to you guys: one chick and three guys, two guys in a wagon. Fucking nailed it.

33:49 Mike: I’m pretty sure Jake and I lived this. Yeah. I think Jake and I lived this. Oh. We did this in Canada a couple of times.

34:01 Jeff: That girl looks so skeezy. Whoa.

34:03 Scott: This whole show was like this, dude. Every episode, they—because they would be like all on a date together and so they would all just be trying to outdo each other and it just got fucking—it was so uncomfortable to watch.

34:15 Mike: That’s funny as shit.

34:17 Scott: I like weird, uncomfortable, fucking cringey shit like that. I can’t help it.

34:21 Mike: I hate stuff like that. That’s why I can’t watch Ben Stiller movies.

34:27 Scott: Oh, dude, I love it. Though you know what, though? Because I—see, Ben Stiller doesn’t bother me, but—like the goofy shit like Elf with what’s-his-bucket.

34:38 Mike: Oh, I am not a Will Ferrell fan either.

34:41 Scott: Yeah, dude, I just cannot. But you know what? Tom Green used to fucking drive me nuts too, when he’d do dumb shit like—stuff his mouth full of food. Yeah, I mean, he did some funny things, dude. His—his movie was okay. Freddy Got Fingered, man. That was a... there were some scenes that were fucking ridiculous, right? "Daddy, would you like some sausage?" Dude, that’s one of the best fucking scenes ever in a movie. I had that as a ringtone for a long time, dude. As a matter of fact, I played the "Bum Bum Song" for my daughter like—like just a couple weeks ago. Oh no. (Laughs) I forgot there was a Ben Stiller show. Wow.

35:20 Jeff: Right, wasn’t that cool? That was when Fox was just like—oh yeah, it was when Fox was just starting and it was—it was kind of a cool time because he was kind of edgy at the time.

35:32 Mike: He’s Mr. Mackey. "Drugs are bad, m’kay?"

35:36 Jeff: That’s funny. I was—we were—I was showing my kid, uh, some old In Living Color sketches, dude. She’s like, "Oh my god, I can’t believe they said that!" Ah! I slapped my kid in the head with a sock the other day and said, "Homie don't play that." She looked at me weird and I was like... (Laughing) Oh man, In Living Color was great, dude. Yes. MADtv was pretty good too. MADtv was pretty good. Kids in the Hall was pretty good. Yes. "Don’t worry, I am only squishing your head." Uh, wow, that dude sounds like—the dude from fucking Hangover. I don’t know. He—he sounds like, uh, Zach Galifianakis. I’m all... I want to listen and—but nobody else can hear it. And so I’m like, I just feel like it doesn’t sound like it to me, but only because I’m staring at it. Oh, we got auditions for, uh—Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot. Remember that movie?

36:52 Jeff: I do.

36:53 Scott: Wasn’t that with Sylvester Stallone and Estelle Getty?

36:58 Mike: Hell yeah. Yes!

37:01 Jeff: Whoa. Whoa. Wait, why did she have an AK-47? What the hell?

37:08 Scott: Gangster Grannies is supposed to be the show. So it’s old ladies with—the machine guns saying dirty words, calling people names... (Laughing) and making machine gun noises. I mean, whoa... whoa.

37:32 Jeff: (Gun noises) They’re trying not to laugh. They covered their faces with the paper, that’s pretty funny. Ah! Get over here! Dude, her gun needs a—needs a tune-up there. Yeah. Oh God, that’s hilarious. That was pretty funny.

37:57 Scott: I love these guys, the Hanson brothers. I saw a whole biography about them. They're just characters in a movie, but this guy made this whole synopsis about them.

38:12 Mike: I was trying to get my daughter to watch Strange Brew the other day. Oh, that’s a good one, yes. "We live here!" "Holy shit! Bob and Doug McKenzie!" Yeah. Strange Brew, dude. I’m trying to think—Strange Brew, that’s Rick Moranis and—that other fucking guy in the 90s. Dave—uh, yeah, okay. "Come off it, you hoser."

38:43 Scott: I heard he was coming back to do some new movies, Rick Moranis.

38:46 Mike: He is. His kids are all grown now. His—his wife died so he stopped acting so he could raise his kids, and they’re all grown up now. That’s cool, man. He’ll jump on that nostalgia bandwagon and fucking rake in some dough probably, huh? Oh, I’m sure. Yeah, that’s awesome. Who’s somebody else? There was another movie I heard... oh, Goonies. Did you—was it Goonies 3? Or Goonies 2?

39:12 Mike: Doubt it.

39:13 Scott: No, there—there’s a Goonies 2. No, I’m serious, they were really talking about it. And then I know it’s been like... what they do? Put the treasure back? Goonies 2 is officially in development. No, they’re supposed to be—um, the parents this time.

39:27 Mike: Oh my god.

39:28 Scott: Yep. So Goonies 2. And then, um—Malcolm in the Middle. Did you guys see the Malcolm in the Middle recast as well?

39:35 Mike: I never watched that.

39:36 Jeff: I saw that. It’s called, um—"Malcolm on the Left"? (Laughs) "Life is still unfair," I think—I think it is, yeah. Not—something like that. Yeah.

39:50 Mike: That’s—did you see they are re-releasing Labyrinth in theaters for like a week? Um, January like... 8th or something like that?

40:02 Scott: No, I didn’t. That’ll probably murder, huh? Oh, I hope so. I mean, dude—when we go to the—there’s a pinball convention here, right? And when you go, there’s a line for the stupid Labyrinth pinball. Everyone loves it, dude. Dude, that movie’s fucking awesome. Yeah.

40:23 Mike: It’d be cool if they did it... go ahead. 40th anniversary, they’re re-releasing it in theaters for January 8th through the 11th.

40:32 Jeff: So I think they have—they have his costume, or they did anyway, one time at the MoPOP in Seattle. And I’m pretty sure his codpiece was exaggerated.

40:48 Mike: (Laughs) I don’t know, there’s some other movies you can watch and, uh, I don’t think it was very exaggerated.

40:55 Scott: I’ve never noticed either way, so...

40:58 Mike: Well, I mean, it’s hard not to notice in the Labyrinth. Jesus, dude.

41:03 Scott: It doesn’t—it doesn’t come to mind.

41:05 Mike: Especially when he’s dancing? In those super tight white pants? Oh wait.

41:12 Scott: I—yeah, I was always more concentrated on the Muppets, I think. Right. At least the girl—there was a girl in there. The Muppets in Jennifer Connelly’s shirt. Oh yeah, and that. (Laughs) The Muppets creep me out a little bit, dude. I’m not—I’m not a big fan. Oh yeah, man.

41:30 Mike: Dude, the early—the early, um—Jim Henson, like... oh shit, what the hell are those? Um, the one with the fucking birds. What the hell was it? Uh, The Dark Crystal. Like all of those.

41:46 Scott: The Dark Crystal, yeah. Man, those were fucking—a little sketchy.

41:51 Jeff: Yeah, that was traumatizing. Yeah, that’s funny.

41:54 Scott: 'Cause actual Muppets creep me out worse.

41:57 Jeff: I saw that in the theaters.

41:58 Scott: I hate Muppets. As a matter of fact, I think I took a date. I would go see the Labyrinth remastered, 4K, fuck yeah. Hell yeah, dude. It would be cool if they did it in IMAX. Gonna have special behind-the-scenes content with fans. That would be fun.

42:15 Jeff: Oh, I was telling a buddy—that lady has horse teeth. I just want to say it. Somebody had to say it. Oh shit, she does. She had horse teeth. (Laughs)

42:25 Scott: Uh, I was telling a buddy that I had—I made Becca watch—Die Hard. Yeah, for a Christmas movie, right? And, um—he said, well, two things: he brought up Lethal Weapon as another Christmas movie. He said it’s often overlooked. And I was like, "Okay." He said the whole first one, I guess. Yeah, yeah, he’s like—and then, oh fuck, what was the other thing? Um, oh! There is up here, there’s a theater every year that does a—a Christmas rendition of fucking Die Hard.

43:00 Mike: What?

43:01 Scott: Like a play. Like an actual live theater? Wow. Yeah, like a live theater, they do it every year, yeah. Um, we found before COVID, there was a—a traveling theater group that did, um—Point Break, dude. (Laughs) They would come to town and put on Point Break. And they would pick like fans—you could put your name in for like a—a lottery or whatever, right? Yeah, to be—to be, yeah, one of the characters. Johnny Utah or somebody in the—in the show.

43:35 Mike: So, I mean—I’ve never been an artsy person, but I will say that dinner theater is some pretty—pretty fun shit. We did—I don’t know if it still goes to Seattle, but we did Teatro ZinZanni’s.

43:54 Scott: I have never heard of this at all, but...

43:57 Mike: Oh, it’s so... it was—it was, I think it was north of KeyArena, the building they were using. So it travels, right? So it’s got like five destinations across the United States where it travels around and it’s a—it’s a dinner theater. You go in, you get—it’s like a seven-course meal or whatever, but they do all kinds of... it’s just live show shit, but they have like—it’s kind of like a circus. They have like acrobatic stuff, they got some jugglers and flame eaters and shit like that. Um, but it was—it was really cool until one of the dudes with a, ironically, giant codpiece—came up and stuck it on my shoulder while he was talking to us.

44:41 Scott: Nice. Dude. Um, but it was—it was a good time. It was—it was fun. And then, um—yeah, I don’t know. Dinner theater is a different thing. Like they have theaters here, uh, in the—in the Twin Cities where you can go in and like you can get dinner, you can order alcohol and stuff and they bring it and you have chairs and shit and you can watch a movie while you eat, like on a big ass theater screen.

45:10 Jeff: Okay. Yeah, well I can get behind either one of those, right? Anytime there’s good food, fucking—I would be there. Um, they do still have this in Seattle. I’m looking it up. The name of the place is—it’s Mr. PP’s Clubhouse.

45:26 Mike: That was not the name of it when I went.

45:28 Jeff: I’m not sure exactly if that—I’m going to send it, I’m going to put the—put the link in the—in the chat right now. Um, but it still does look pretty cool, like... but yeah, that—it looks fun, dude. Looks like they make it like you just part of the show, right? Have like people coming around, interacting with you while you’re eating.

45:51 Mike: Yeah, they did. It was—it was fun. And as a matter of fact, I think that guy with the giant bouffant hairdo—uh, was the dude that... maybe not.

46:02 Jeff: Might have been. Probably one of the owners or something. You guys that run it. I mean, definitely looks like the guy that put his codpiece on my shoulder, but you know, that’s funny. I could be misremembering that. (Laughs) Now I have to find out where Mr. PP’s Clubhouse is because... yeah, you do. I’m going to isolate that. Teatro ZinZanni’s. Oh, well yeah, they definitely moved. Um, and there might be another one, this is just the first one that came up. Oh, actually, they’re doing it right now! In New Year’s Eve 2026.

46:40 Mike: Really?

46:41 Scott: Yeah, look at the top. It’s the third one over. New Year’s Eve, midnight champagne toast, five-course tasting meal, after-dinner surprises, and a very special flying trapeze performance by Emerald City Flyers.

46:55 Mike: True shit. Look at you. Still in the know, bro, and you—you should definitely—you should definitely give that a—give that a shot. I’m—I’m telling you, it’s—it’s an experience. Becca would love it.

47:06 Scott: Oh, yeah, dude. Well, they—they do the—they do the ballet almost every year. I usually get her season tickets to the ballet, and then they...

47:16 Mike: Oh yeah, this is not that kind of show.

47:19 Scott: No, well—no, but they love that stuff, right? And then they do—they rotate off because they’ll get like theater tickets. Like they’ve been to—I don’t know if they went to Wicked, um, but they’re going to like Les Miz this year and—and her and the kid love that shit. So I buy 'em tickets to that stuff because it’s easy—it’s an easy gift. (Laughs)

47:38 Mike: Nice. Yep. Well, same here, right? So that’s—my wife and daughter just went and saw, um—what did they see? I think it was Phantom of the Opera just—just a couple weeks ago. Um, but they do—they—there’s a couple of theaters around here, the Orpheum and the Or—the Ordway, they—they go to a lot. Um, but—uh, yeah, I’m looking... so they absolutely Teatro ZinZanni’s relocated. They’re South—South Seattle now instead of... it used to be north of the Space Needle. It was north of the KeyArena.

48:10 Scott: That’s hilarious. And it’s no longer there. So, but—but like I said, it—it used to be... it doesn’t seem like it is now because it said "Live in Chicago" as well, but it used to be it traveled around and it was only in—in a place for a couple months and then they would move to the next one. Well, maybe they found a home. Yeah, why? I mean, I’m glad if they did, right? Yeah. The Red Light Rail to Teatro ZinZanni’s Mr. PP’s Clubhouse. There you go, dude, you could ride the—ride the train.

48:42 Scott: The Red Light Rail? That sounds like a fucking prostitute thing somewhere.

48:46 Mike: Well, it probably helps that my—my eyes are fucked up and I’m ingesting some small quantity of whiskey, because it says "Ride the Light Rail."

48:55 Jeff: Oh! (Laughing) I thought it said "The Red Light Rail."

48:58 Mike: Okay, that makes sense. I do ride the light rail sometimes. Yeah. Sometimes. Well, I used to do it more, but I haven’t been doing it lately. Wow. So, uh—the Purple Glass, um—has a thing for Mr. PP’s Clubhouse where it says "Feast big or nibble small." Yeah. Mr. PP’s Clubhouse. Come on, man. They had to. Like, that is—what a name, dude. That place sounds—sounds like it’s hopping, man. Uh, it’s on Sixth Avenue South in Seattle. Oh yeah, it’s right in the perfect spot. "Buy tickets." Yep, that’s about what I thought. So center stage is 150 bucks a person. Yeah. Um, tables of six or more is 130 bucks. And then general admission... that’s including—including meals? The meal’s included, right? Uh, I don’t know. Nope. That says "Tickets include show only. Add the five-course menu, five-course tasting menu at the exclusive online price during checkout." So they don’t even tell you till you get to checkout. Right, yeah. Let’s see, I’m going to—I’m going to pretend. Uh, "Add-ons you might like: the tasting menu is 80 bucks." Okay. "The classic is just a Margherita pizza for 25." All right, so it’s got a menu. You could just order food. All right, and it’s kind of expensive. You can get a celebration cake for up to six people for 60 bucks. Uh, you can get bottle service. I’m so—I’m so worried about eating at a place called Mr. PP’s Clubhouse. Oh, but they have a whiskey flight, bro. You got to go now. Okay, now I’ll go. Yeah. Oh, but wait! If you type in "Mrs. PP’s Clubhouse," dude, that takes you to a whole different...

51:01 Mike: Uh, I’m going to not add that to my search history.

51:06 Jeff: Ah, there’s a Mr. PP’s Playhouse as well, somewhere. I don’t know, it just came up.

51:11 Mike: That’s super weird because Pee-wee’s Playhouse has been popping up on my feeds lately. And there was, uh—remember Laurence Fishburne? Morpheus. He got his start as Cowboy something on Pee-wee’s Playhouse.

51:26 Jeff: Oh, I had no idea.

51:28 Mike: Oh yeah. You don’t remember that?

51:29 Scott: No, no.

51:31 Mike: That was probably after your time. I forget you’re an old fuck. I mean, uh, I forget...

51:39 Scott: Well, I never watched Pee-wee’s Playhouse. It just wasn’t—that wasn’t my thing. He annoyed me, dude. He just always annoyed me. Really? Hello, it’s me, Jeff. Yeah. Oh, hey Jeff, you’re back. Yeah, I missed you.

51:55 Mike: Who’s this guy? Oh. Would you go there with me? It looks like Harvey Weinstein’s little brother. Oh, do you have the—the chat open, Jeff? Uh, yes. Do you—do you see that last pop—do you see that? Will you go to that place with me? Yeah. Oh, Mr. PP’s... what? What the hell is that? Yeah.

52:21 Scott: Dude, that has got to be the most—unless it’s done on purpose, which it kind of looks like it is, because if you look at the picture, that guy’s face is right between their legs on the—on the picture, right? Oh, yeah. So is it done on purpose? Like, or is it just like a—an unfortunate mistake?

52:43 Mike: No, dude, that is part of the show.

52:45 Jeff: Oh, really? Come eat some food and I’ll rub my codpiece on your shoulder. (Laughing) Yep.

52:50 Scott: But I don’t want to eat food in a place called Mr. PP’s Clubhouse.

52:56 Mike: Well, it didn’t used to be called that, dude. It was a different place. (Laughing) Oh fuck, we just missed the New Year. God damn it! Oh, god damn it, Scott. I’m sorry. You were obsessed with that fucking name. I’m sorry. Jim Tyler is as Mr. PP.

53:23 Scott: Oh. Kevin Kent as Dolly... or Dali... I don’t know how to say it.

53:30 Mike: Doily? Doily. Oh, it’s Doily. Z. Jones as Madame Z. Jan—Jan Dam. Jan Dam the entrepreneur. Vita—Vita Nova. Vita Nova? The flight attendant.

53:51 Mike: Yeah, so this one was really cool because you sit kind of in the middle of everything, and when the—the, um—like trapeze people come out, like they’ll swing over the fucking audience and shit. It’s pretty dope. Like, I was concerned. I was like, you know, if someone stands up in the middle right now, they’re just going to get fucking clobbered.

54:13 Scott: Whoa, who’s this chick? I would totally go to that. I’m going to—I’m going to make a note and... you should go to that. It’s a good time. Or maybe if I don’t go, maybe her and the kid’ll probably go. There you go. Yeah, they’ll dig it. Jeff, I don’t—I don’t know what you’re watching, but that—that lady has some very manly facial features. It’s the New Year’s Eve Times Square 2026. But it’s not New Year’s there yet. But she’s got that look. She’s a very handsome woman. Like—like she’s been to the doctor once or twice. Something fell off. What fell off? What was that? I don’t know, something. A gigachad? It was—one of her parts. What fell off was her, uh—what do they call that? A strap—strap-back? Or what—a tuck? (Laughing) What the fuck? Ace Ventura? Yeah, dude. Either that’s a man or she’s got the worst case of hemorrhoids I’ve ever seen. Uh... the backup dancers start—start spitting. Like in Ace Ventura. Nice. I know, it’s not funny. Can’t believe you. I know. Well, it’s funny because nobody knew, that’s why it’s funny. Yes. Oh, they knew. (Laughs)

55:38 Jeff: God damn it. Well, I’m—I’m hopeful that you—you go see Teatro ZinZanni. I’m—I’m glad I could bring up something that is in your area that you haven’t experienced yet. I haven’t experienced a lot here. I know, I haven’t experienced being stabbed by a bum, but it doesn't mean I want to. No, I’m kidding. You came close a couple times. I mean, didn’t—didn’t your superhero like start—isn’t he like on the lam now for tax evasion or some shit? Ooh. Shouldn’t you—shouldn’t you take his place? What is this dude doing? I mean, who is that? I have no idea. Um, I don’t know, man. I know he was in trouble for drugs for a while, I didn’t know—I don’t know if he’s running. We looked him up a little while ago. Yeah. I can’t remember his name. Phoenix Jones. Oh, there you go. Now I have to look. Dude, there was a group of them. They had like—there was like a group of them that ran around Belltown for a while. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Uh, Wiley has 11,000 followers on Instagram. Nice. This dancing is making me very uncomfortable. Yeah, like—I—I’m 100% sure there’s like something under that lacy thing, but, um—that... oh, she got her hat back on. 'Cause she was cold. (Laughing) This looks like that start to the porn I was talking about earlier. I know, right? Um, I’m pretty sure there’s not enough guys there. There’s only six of them. I’m pretty sure. Bitch, I would have a talk with everybody. Yeah. Yeah. That was the weirdest damn rodeo I’ve ever been to.

57:40 Mike: Uh, wait—wait till she gets the bull, right? This is the weather report. Have you ever seen those Telemundo shows where it’s like—and then all of a sudden the kids come out and then you’re really confused, dude. I’m all, "No, I haven’t seen those." Not—Jeff, I’m going to have to watch more Telemundo. You got to watch more Telemundo. Oh yeah, it’s like a—it’s like a kids’ show, but basically the women are dressed about how she’s wearing, you know, in that... oh, Telemundo’s a pretty good show. I used to watch that and Sábado Gigante. I don’t know what that means. Sábado Gigante, that’s, uh—the big Sunday show. I used to watch that when I was a kid. Oh. Right, right. They have—they have... oh, wait, wait, this is mine? I thought we were toasting. What—what are we doing? Are you going to throw it at me? I’m going to drink it. Oh, okay. Oh, are we going to toast? Sure. Here, me and my wife’s going to toast.

58:41 Mike: All right, Happy New Year! Happy New Year! Happy New Year! Mike says Happy New Year, Scott says Happy New Year. She said Happy New Year. Toast it with you guys! Yeah. Scott’s toasting. I did too, but I already drank it. Me too. Right on. My wife’s looking at me now, it’s kind of weird. Kind of weird. My—my beverage is—is complete. It has been one hour and that is eight shots of whiskey.

59:08 Scott: That’s all, that would be all my hours, dude. (Laughs) I would be done. I would be done with the world.

59:13 Jeff: Remy says Happy New Year too. He tried to—he just jumped up on the back of the chair because he missed the toast.

59:20 Mike: Aw, poor kid. Happy New Year, kitty cat.

59:24 Jeff: He’s never done this forever... I told you he’d snap at me! He tried to bite my thumb. (Laughs)

59:32 Scott: You’re not paying attention. He misses you. Yep.

59:36 Mike: All right, how many of you guys know who Ricky Berwick is?

59:40 Jeff: I have no... I have no idea. The Ricky Berwick show?

59:44 Mike: Uh, kind of. No. I bet you’d recognize him when you see him.

59:49 Jeff: Oh, that’s that guy we were just talking about. With the codpiece? No, no, from MTV. Is that Carson Daly? That’s not Carson Daly. That’s not Carson Daly, no, dude. You guys said Carson Daly was host tonight. That’s not Carson Daly. Carson—so Carson Daly took over the—the Dick Clark Rockin' New Year’s Eve, dude. This is not—that’s not what we’re watching here. What’s this one? I don’t know. Times Square. Oh. I thought it was the same. Ah fuck, how many of these are there, dude? Well, dude, they only get one chance a year to make their money, right? I guess.

(Commercial Break: Ruffles Zig Zag)

61:00 Jeff: What the fuck is this dude doing? I thought—bro... I almost yelled at you and called you "Brogan." I was like, "Brogan, what the fuck?" Dude, so when we first started, I have to tell you this, Mike. And Jeff might know this, but when we first started the podcast, dude—uh, we—we had one like Gmail account that we would both log into, right? Yeah. Oh my god. And so I jumped on YouTube to look something up and Brogan’s into like—like popping videos, like the zit popping... gross. Right, dude? And so I jump on YouTube and all the—like on the right-hand side all the "watch next" stuff was all these fucking zit popping videos, dude. You know how hard it is to shut your browser with your eyes closed? Uh, I—I do not know how hard that is, because I would just look down and hit Alt-F4, bro. Come on. Oh, dude, I—yeah, I was panicking. Dude, I was panicking. Yeah, I told him after that we can’t share accounts. We had to—we had to figure something else out. Like, I can’t intermingle with your search history. I’m like, "Shut up, shut up your damn cookies, let’s just figure this shit out."

62:12 Mike: Yeah. Oh, I think that chick was Rita Ora. 'Cause here’s a thing saying, uh—Ryan... it’s—oh, it’s not Carson Daly. My bad. Carson Daly’s on the Today Show. Ryan Seacrest is the one that took over for Dick Clark. So it’s—well, that wasn’t Ryan Seacrest either, that we saw. No, but—but it is. It’s Ryan Seacrest and Rita Ora are doing the Dick Clark Rockin' New Year’s Eve. What the fuck is Ryan Seacrest from? I know... he did—um, one of the—the, uh—killed a man. He killed a man. Oh no, he was—American Idol. There you go. American Idol. I was going reality show, he’s a reality show guy. Well, I mean, that’s... he’s an MMA—MMA fighter. Dead fighter. Death fighter. No, dude. Octagon and all of it, broken glass.

63:03 Mike: Oh man. Can we talk about—go, Mike. Well, I was just going to say, a video popped up the other day of Don Frye fighting. And I’m like, "Ah man, the early days of MMA, back when there was no—there’s no time limit, there’s no rounds, it’s just two dudes fucking whale on each other till they can’t move anymore."

63:20 Scott: Dude, Don Frye was a fucking animal, dude.

63:23 Mike: Don Frye. Oh, it was Don Frye and Tank Abbott. Yes.

63:26 Jeff: Oh, Tank Abbott. I know him. I’m aware of him, I mean. I’m aware of his existence.

63:33 Mike: Yeah, Tank Abbott was a madman too. Um, did anybody happen to catch the—the Jake Paul, the end of—the end of that fight?

63:41 Scott: Uh, I heard he got knocked out. I don’t watch his shit.

63:44 Mike: Oh, you didn’t watch it? I watched the knockout just because of Jake Paul. Me too, that’s all I watched was the knockout, the highlights. You haven’t seen it? God damn, he—he came out—he came out hard.

63:55 Jeff: Oh, I just saw the—like the final hit. Like I saw him get knocked out.

63:59 Mike: Oh, oh okay, good, good. That’s all—I—that’s all I saw was just the ending. It was—it was so nice, dude. (Laughs) It was nice to finally see that guy get knocked out, right? Did you see his jaw? Yes. Fucking broke his shit, dude. Like he looked up, like, "Why are you stopping the fight?" And I’m just looking at him like, "Yeah, you’re fucked, dude."

64:23 Mike: Uh, yeah, so I watched—I watched Don Frye and Tank Abbott and then I went down a rabbit hole and I watched him fight Butterbean and I watched him fight Ken Shamrock. And I’m like, "Oh my god, I forgot all these people existed!"

64:36 Scott: Dude, he had some great fights in—Pride as well. Hell yeah, dude. Yeah, he was a fucking madman. Yo. The firefighter. Yeah, yeah, I like those old UFC fights. I—I wish they weren’t—I wish they didn’t make—um, I wish UFC wasn’t, you know, four times a month. You know what I mean? I really enjoyed it back when it was—like an event. Once a quarter? Yeah, like every couple of months it was something you know, you’d go...

65:08 Mike: Oh my god, we got to—we got to all get together and enjoy this! And now it’s like, "Eh, yeah, there’s another fight this weekend."

65:18 Scott: Yeah. And—and look, no more pay-per-views, right? Like they burned out the pay-per-view. Like no—people just quit buying. I mean, they’ll—of course they’re going to tell you, "Oh, we sold millions of pay-per-views," right? And maybe they did, who knows, right? They did. To all the casinos and fucking bars that bought it. Yeah, and that’s probably true, right? And—and I think, yeah, I think they just there were so many that people are just burned out, right? They’d get fight pass or whatever and it just wasn’t like an event like it used to be, you know? Right. Whoa.

65:49 Scott: Woo! Planet Fitness, what what! Are they just re-showing shit or is it they just keep going back to 'em? I think they just keep going back to 'em. He’s got somebody new with him, this girl wasn’t here with him before. Whoever she is. The chair of America, 250 Rosie Rios. His name is Jonathan. Oh, Jonathan. Sure. I don’t know who that guy is.

66:22 Mike: That’s Jonathan. He kind of—he looks like the—did you guys watch Schitt’s Creek? He looks like the son from Schitt’s Creek.

66:30 Scott: He does kind of look like the son from Schitt’s Creek. Oh my god, dude, we’ve been watching Brockmire. Have you—have either of you seen this?

66:39 Jeff: No.

66:40 Scott: Oh my god. Um, but I’m aware of it. I love it. It’s so funny. I’ve never heard of it. Uh, it’s—it’s kind of like Eastbound & Down. Oh. Yeah. I could—I couldn’t finish Eastbound & Down, dude. He was—Kenny Powers was a little too over the top for me.

66:58 Scott: Yeah, he’s kind of like that, um—but not—not as—not as crazy as Kenny Powers, but, um—like just kind of a degenerate that way, right? Yeah. Yeah. Where he’s just like a—just a full-on alcoholic.

67:11 Mike: Oh wait, that’s the—dude, that’s Apu!

67:13 Scott: Yeah, the Hank Azaria. And he created it, right? Like the—the characters he created. It’s fantastic, dude. I love it. He is just like a—just a dirtbag. Wow. You’re right, I love shows like that. Like Shameless. I fucking think Shameless was great, man.

67:31 Mike: Oh, I couldn’t watch that either. My wife—so my wife watches all these shits and I’ll sit down and I’ll watch like one episode and I’m like, "Yeah, that’s not for me. You enjoy that."

67:40 Scott: Oh, see, I love those shows, man. I love that—again, I like that weird, cringey, awkward shit. I can’t help it.

67:46 Mike: So if you’re into that, and you’ve probably already watched it, um—but, uh, a—a sort of corollary to Eastbound & Down is called The Righteous Gemstones.

67:58 Scott: Yeah, I’ve watched that. Oh, okay. Yeah. I was—so my buddy keeps trying to get me to watch it, he’s like, "It’s funny as shit." We watched a couple episodes and I’m like, "Yes, it’s funny, but I—dude, that’s not—I can’t watch that unless I’m shitfaced."

68:13 Jeff: Dude, it—it was funny, but it was almost like too realistic, right? Where I was like—this is like... right, look. Little too on point. It was kind of like that movie Don’t Look Up, right? It’s like, I want to laugh but it’s accurate. Fuck. Right. Um...

68:30 Scott: He had another great—series with—oh, the guy that’s in Fallout, uh—the ghoul guy from Fallout, I can’t think of his name right now. Hold on, hold on. He has a super unfortunate name. Walton Goggins. Yeah, there you go. Um, it’s called Principals, where they’re both—I think it’s Principals. Or Vice Principals, there you go. Oh, okay. And they’re both—they’re both vice principals. Like, um—just again, same thing, like super shitty, cringey, awkward, you know, um—arrogant... you know what I mean?

69:10 Mike: I’m pretty sure Danny McBride plays the same fucking character in everything he’s in.

69:15 Scott: He does play that in a lot of things, right? Yeah. Um, yeah, same thing and they’re both trying to become the principal of a school, right? Nice. So they competing. It’s pretty funny. It’s pretty funny.

(Commercial Break: Elation Fragrance)

69:58 Scott: Dude, um—last thing before we go. Um, fucking... and then this might not make the podcast, I don’t know, but—have you guys looked at all Google’s AI products?

70:09 Mike: All of them? No. Why?

70:11 Scott: Yeah, look up—here, let me... but yeah, I saw there’s some you could run a small country with it. Dude, with all the shit they have, it’s crazy. Are you talking the AI Studio? AI Studio, but then, um—all the things here, check this out. Um, I—yeah, because honestly I think you can do all these little tools they have, um, running around. I think you can do 'em all with Studio if—if you know what you’re doing pretty much. Probably. Yeah. Um, but then they also have, uh—what is there? Gemini? Oh man, that’s the wrong one. Not just Gemini, dude. NotebookLM is another good one. Google One? But um, there’s just—yeah, dude, there’s so many... um, filmmaking tools and almost all of them are free for now. For now. Right, for now. Right. Yeah. You can build apps. Uh, they have like Gemini built into Android Studio. Oh, Firebase Studio basically will write almost all little—little apps for you, right? Um, what was the other... so they have one last thing, fucking... um, Google always has the—like Labs, right? Yeah. Yeah. Sandboxes. Yep. Um, well, they always have their one—man, I’m not going to be able to find it now. Um, labs.google/fx or Google Labs, AI Test Kitchen, there you go. Maybe that’s it.

72:01 Mike: They got Gemini Code Assist, they got Jewels. I’ve been using Nan—Nano-Banana.

72:08 Scott: Okay, yeah, that—that probably is it with Nano-Banana and stuff. Oh, go ahead, Google.

72:11 Mike: So it’s fun because I’ve—I started using AWS shit for work and I’m in there now and it’s like, "Oh wow, I can get AI to do all my shit."

72:18 Scott: Yeah, it’s scary. Yeah, there’s a ton of stuff, dude. And they’re pushing it super hard. AWS especially, right? Yeah.

72:26 Mike: So—so I started using AWS to get, uh—Amazon Polly. So I had to sit all in there and get it set up and I’m in there and I’m like, "Wow, this is cheap as fuck. 16 dollars for a million characters." I’m like, "All right, well I think I’m gonna start doing some AI, let’s—let’s start some of them YouTube videos where I’m just going to fucking throw a—a Manwa in there and have—have Amazon create me a voice that’s not one of those ridiculous ones that’s on YouTube all the time."

72:59 Scott: Dude, you can do a ton of those, right? There—yeah, there’s so much AI stuff. I—yeah, because I’ve been cheating a lot lately and I was doing like—with the podcast. I—we never used AI before like Becca was doing our transcriptions or notes or show notes and stuff and then when she went to Arizona for the summer I started just throwing it in ChatGPT and then using the transcriptions to do show notes and doing the—the cover letter and everything basically, right? That’s cool. And so, but I was just using ChatGPT for it, but, um—I—I’m probably going to start using some of this Google stuff, man.

73:35 Mike: I would. I think we should. I think we should make our—podcast station, yeah. Basically the podcast network could be run by AI, I don’t give a fuck.

73:46 Scott: Yeah, I don’t really either. I’ve been using, uh, Gemini just to fuck with pictures and shit. It’s kind of fun, but... yeah. I don’t—I don’t know, man. Like it’s—it’s—that’s a rabbit hole for me. It’s like I can—I can definitely get lost in there doing—just it’s the—endless—endless possibilities.

74:09 Scott: Dude, did you watch that—or look at that guy’s channel at all that I sent you? That AI channel? Probably didn’t, huh?

74:18 Mike: Did you text it to me?

74:19 Scott: Yeah. It was—it was just a day we were talking about AI. I’m like, "AI’s running everything" or whatever. Yeah. Dude, this guy is—um, it’s—it’s pretty interesting because what he does is he’s got three or four different, you know, chatbots, LLMs going and he’s got—he’s got like—um, one is—is set up as his girlfriend, one is his like best friend that’s just like a standard ChatGPT, and then one is like a jailbroken one. And so he like compares them all, like how do they answer different questions. Um, he’ll let them talk to each other.

74:54 Mike: Wait, there’s no way this dude has real robots like that. What the fuck? Look at you.

74:58 Scott: Yeah. Yeah. They—well, he set up that—that girl robot, the one with the hair. Yeah, in that last video. Yeah. So he—he takes her, he put ChatGPT—like put it in control of the robot and took her into... I see that and she’s screaming that she’s alive. What the fuck? Well, dude, she’s telling people to move out of the way and shit. She’s like, "Get out of my way." She—she orders her—her coffee, right? Like he—he orders coffee and, um—and he orders like a small and the lady’s like, "You want cream?" Like she—she tells him what she wants and the lady’s like, "You want cream?" and he goes, "No." And she—and the robot’s like, "I want—yes, I want cream." And he goes, "Oh, I guess we want cream." Right. Yeah, wow. Yeah, it’s weird. And then—after that, he’s like—he shows that same robot, like it’s walking upright, right? And—um, all day, you know, through the coffee shop, and then he goes home and he’s like, "Just so you guys know, you know, they don’t always look like this," and he—like hits a button and it drops down and looks like a fucking—like a spider from a horror movie, right? It comes crawling across the floor and I was like, "Motherfucker, off, dude!"

75:55 Mike: Fuck a bunch of that.

75:58 Scott: Yeah. Um, but it’s some of the stuff he does is really cool, man. Um, he gets them in little arguments and—and has 'em talk shit to each other. It’s—it’s super interesting, right? Um, yeah, he’s probably pushing like—the edge of what these little LLMs can do on—on things. It’s pretty—it’s pretty fun to watch. Oh, bet.

76:21 Jeff: Um, so I was thinking about AI in general, about how, you know—maybe paranormal is basically like a natural version of AI. What if the whole universe is the natural version of AI? So for example, paranormal itself—let’s start with something simple, like ghost—whatever—hauntings. Um, they basically—you know—in—in some cases you get the—what—and what if just in general, hauntings, it’s basically AI trying to communicate or trying to learn as best as it can? So what we see as Dead Uncle Ralph, you know, is basically, um—a residual, you know? People say residual, but it’s caused not from that person but it’s caused from the natural AI trying to—I don’t know, communicate, get along with. And so because, you know, some people say, "Well, it was scary and stuff," well maybe because you brought that energy, you know, with you.

77:30 Scott: Well, yeah. People are always scared when there’s something they don’t—they don’t understand, right? Like some ghost or who knows, right? Right. I—I couldn’t imagine even, um—like the first time people really—you know, saw elephants when people didn’t know what they were, right? I’m sure it scared the shit out of 'em. I know. I know.

77:49 Jeff: Oh, even an elephant skull! You know, if you look at that thing, that thing looks like a monster.

77:53 Scott: Well, yeah, they—they used to think they were fucking—cyclopses? Yeah, cyclopses. Right, yeah.

77:58 Jeff: Um, but yeah, man, I mean that kind of falls in the simulation theory. I know they’re saying that they proved that mathematically isn’t real.

78:05 Scott: Oh, I don’t know.

78:07 Jeff: Ah, that’s what they’ve said. But yeah, it kind of falls in there, right? Like a little glitch in the matrix or—or AI adjustments.

78:13 Jeff: But—yeah, because nature—that’s all nature is, well—nature is nature, right? But it’s mathematical equations, you know, look at the seashell and all that. I forgot what they call that spiral shit, um—but the Fibonacci sequence. Yeah, the Fibonacci sequence. That’s all nature.

78:31 Scott: Yeah, when they get into—a lot of—like physics, they start talking about information. When you—you know what I mean? When they start getting into the—the quantum physics, it’s—it’s more about information, um—and that’s I think once they started framing things like that then I think that’s where you kind of fell into the simulation—the whole simulation hypothesis, right?

78:53 Jeff: Right. I saw—well, I saw a—a TikTok about the—the "Last Thursday" theory, when everything was created last Thursday and we wouldn’t even know it.

79:04 Scott: Well, you fall asleep, dude. That’s—a crazy thing is, right? Like, you fall asleep. And when you wake up, all you have is your memories. Right. Right? So you don’t really know that anything existed before you woke up. All you have is these memories that they existed, right? Which is just like you’re in a game. Right. But in dreams, though, like in dreams, like I remember doing things. It’s like, "Well, how did I ever do this? Because I did this before." Well, I’ve never done this before, you know? You—you know? So yeah, you can—implant memories really super quick.

79:39 Scott: Sure. You ever dream you died?

79:41 Jeff: No.

79:42 Scott: Oh. Have you? Do you, Mike?

79:44 Mike: I wake up when I die.

79:46 Scott: Yeah, I wake up when I die too. Yep.

79:49 Jeff: I try to stay away from those situations. Um, I’ve died a lot in my dreams.

79:56 Mike: Oh. Uh, it doesn’t happen to me very often. Like, I have, um—I lucid dream a lot. So a lot of times when I start dreaming, I’ll be like, "Oh, this is a dream." And then I’ll just start doing weird shit because I know it’s just a dream.

80:15 Scott: Uh, sorry. I didn’t realize I was walking away from my mic there. No, that’s fine. So, do you—do you just know it’s a dream or do you do state checks? Because when they say when you do—like lucid dreaming, I don’t know if people know or not, but, um—you’ll do a state check where you look at your hand or you try to read something. And if you can’t read it, if the words keep moving around, you’re like, "Oh, I know it’s a dream." Or if you look at your hand and your hand’s blurry, you know it’s a dream, kind of thing.

80:38 Mike: For—for me it’s contextual, right? So it’s—something will happen and I’ll be like, "Well, that can’t fucking—that can’t happen." I’m like, "Oh shit, I’m dreaming."

80:48 Scott: Okay. So then, do you have a problem in real life when you see something fucking crazy? Like, um—do—do you have to check to make sure it’s real life? Do you knock on things or do you pinch yourself or anything?

81:00 Mike: Well, I—I live in Minnesota, dude. I don’t see anything crazy.

81:05 Scott: (Laughs) That’s not true, dude. I’m sure there’s been reindeer or some shit run across the road in front of you where you were like, "What the fuck was that?"

81:13 Mike: Uh... no, nothing. But—so, I guess the—the closest I’ve been is like the very first time I saw the northern lights—um, in the backyard. Because it wasn’t—it didn’t look like the stereotypical northern lights, like it was kind of white. And I looked up in the sky and it was just like this white shit moving around and I was like, "What the fuck is happening? Am I tripping balls? What the... holy shit, why is the sky moving like that?" Uh, okay. So, I mean, I guess that’s the closest I’ve come but aside from that, it’s like, no. Not... okay, that’s fair. Like, I can—I can definitely distinguish when I’m dreaming. And like I said, I don’t—I don’t dream super often but it is very common for me when I’m dreaming for me to go, "Oh, this is a dream." And then either just kind of not give a shit or just be like, "Well, let’s fuck shit up, right?"

82:05 Scott: He’s like, "I don’t dream very often, but when I do, I make it fucking count." That’s right. Yeah. So I—I’ve lucid dreamed before. And I’ve—I’ve actually tried. Like, I’ve done some of the things to actually try to make yourself lucid dream, right? Um, but I’ve never been like good at it. It’s not something I could do, right? Every time I—I start to think, "Oh, I’m dreaming," I get excited and I try to do anything and I wake up. "Oh, I’m going to fucking fly!" Ding, my eyes fucking pop open. (Laughs) It’s always like that for me. I wake up—I don’t want to say I wake up easy. I kind of sleep hard. Um, but when I’m awake, I’m awake, right? It doesn’t take me a long time to wake up. I just go from this to awake.

82:46 Jeff: I wake up hard. (Laughs)

82:48 Scott: I used to, but not anymore. Too old.

82:53 Mike: Uh, that’s funny.

82:57 Scott: All this got weird.

83:00 Jeff: Yep, it sure did. (Laughs) Way to derail the conversation, Scott. AI and waking up hard. That’s—that’s... it is weird how we went from AI to fucking—to dreams. Lucid dreams. Yep. Well, also, yeah. That’s what I mean, nature is AI—our—our brain is basically AI. This—we are basically AI. And so, yeah, we’re building people. So, okay, I—I got just one more question. So you know like those games, uh—like The Sims and stuff like that? Um, one guy said with little—those little these little AI engines and stuff like that, we can have AI—little AI people running around. And if they run long enough, are they going to become self-aware to say, "Hey, we’re AI people"? Or "Hey, we’re in something"? Or will—or will they build a universe, you know?

83:56 Mike: Well, I mean, you could look at movies, yeah. Look at I, Robot. Like, "I’m alive!" Like they don’t... oh, but they’re just in a... so when they become self-aware, it’s—it’s they’re trying to equate themselves with everyone else, right?

84:10 Jeff: So they’ll just—'cause they’ll have like a glass ceiling, per se. They’ll—they’ll have a—

84:16 Scott: They’ve already had, um—AI, uh—try like—threaten to kill people, if not try to kill people, I think. And, um—definitely one tried to blackmail—um, a programmer. Like they put in there that they were going to shut it off and they put in some secret messages from the programmer to his girlfriend so the AI thought that it was cheating on its—on its wife. Or on his wife.

84:41 Jeff: That was his story, he got caught and he’s like, "It’s fucking AI, it’s fucking me!"

84:45 Scott: (Laughing) And he’s like, "No, AI’s fucking me!" Actually... but no, they—they had it planned out ahead of time—apparently, or they said they did. And—and the AI like—reached out and—and tried to blackmail him—um, to not shut him off. And I think there was another one where—um, he was in a—they had it set up to where it the AI thought that the guy was in a—um, a room with like—um, fire extinguisher, like a halon system or something, you know. Oh no. Yeah, and it—and it lowered or—or raised the temperature to set off—um, the fire suppression system to—to kill the guy. You hear that he was smoking in there when he shouldn’t have been.

85:23 Scott: Well, I think it even went so far as to like—um, set it up to where he would be down there like he’s the only guy, he’s like on call and so it did something to make him go there, right? And then lock the door and tried to set it off. Wow. So that’s already happened, right? So does that mean that they’re self-aware or is that just—or is that just what they’ve learned from us, right? Well, I don’t even think that yet. I—I think we’re still at the stage where it just looked at, "Okay, if I get turned off, I’m off. I can’t do this." That type of thing. Well, how do you not get turned off? And it went A, B, and C. Why would it even care, right? Like, you know what I mean?

86:02 Jeff: Well, 'cause it has something to do. If—I think it’s as simple as, you know, it’s just like an ADD kid or ADHD or, you know, it just—it has things to do. Tomorrow I have to wake up. Tomorrow I have to, you know, do things in a certain order.

86:18 Scott: They use that as an example, like the paperclip—you’ve heard the paperclip? No. Like if you set one up to make paperclips, um—eventually, like that’s its goal—eventually it’ll come to the conclusion that it has to kill people and—like use, you know, mine the entire earth to make it all into paperclips type situation. Right. You have to set in some guardrails. Right. Jesus Christ. Oh, this is fabulous.

86:43 Mike: What? All right, so—so I’m here fucking with, uh, Nano. I... it’s Gemini but it’s Nano now. I don’t—I don’t know. Oh, is this what you just posted?

6:53 Mike: Nanu Nanu? Well, so that one I just posted, but now I just made another one and I’m sitting here, I’m just dying.

86:59 Scott: That is basically a picture of us.

87:01 Mike: Dude, no! This is a picture of us and this is fucking perfect. Oh no, that is—that is pretty close. Uh, it’s even at the Golden Nugget, man. It is! Look at that. Damn. That is crazy. Yeah, you could put this—it makes me a little nostalgic.

87:29 Mike: Yeah, I think—I think the AI is at a point now where we haven’t learned enough to fully parameter the—the—personalities. So it’s—it’s mimicking what we’re feeding it instead of generating its own personality, right?

87:59 Scott: Yeah, that’s—that’s kind of what I think, too.

88:01 Mike: But we’re headed there. Like, it’s going there. And though—and when it gets there, it’s going to be scary.

88:07 Jeff: So—again, we’re creating life again. That—that’s basically how we got created if you think about it. That that there was—okay, we they—they could have just let—let us go with our genetics and stuff, but they had to put parameters in so we don’t do whatever. That we stick to these parameters.

88:25 Scott: Right. "Thou shalt not kill." Yeah. There’s a—a big power bottleneck with AI as well, though. Um, the US doesn’t have enough power to—

88:34 Jeff: Right. I saw that movie.

88:36 Scott: Well, we just don’t have enough power. That’s when we’re batteries, man. This is how it happens. (Laughs) Block out the sun. We’re copper tops, man, that’s it. Uh, but no, even at like max capacity, um—like apparently we—we don’t generate enough power to power all these—um, you know, data centers they’re—they’re planning on putting in. I mean, some of these fucking things are 20 miles square, dude. Yeah, but before how—I—yeah, and but it’ll get smaller, I don’t know how, but it will get smaller.

89:09 Mike: Well, and it has! So now they’re—instead of building 20-mile-square data centers, they’re—they’re fucking dotting small ones everywhere. They’re building one in Apple Valley, right? Or trying to build one and people are winging out, but—like they’re just putting 'em everywhere now.

89:27 Scott: Yeah. Well, they even talk about building 'em in space, right? 'Cause it’s cold and—yeah. Um, and but we’ll see. Um, power is the big bottleneck. Like actual electrical power to power these things, right? We just don’t make enough. Uh, but if you build 'em in space, you use a solar sail and you get solar energy, right?

89:44 Mike: No. Well, maybe, but that shit’s not even really—not even real. They—like from what I’ve seen and read and heard, they—like if—if we use max power, like—uh, all the water, solar, everything we have, we still don’t have enough. And it’s something like they—the expectation is in the next 10 to 20 years we would have to build something like 25 to 50 nuclear—nuclear power plants. Nuclear power plants. Yeah. To—even—even come close, right? Oh, we’re starting.

90:14 Mike: I—I 100% see them building nuclear plants on the moon. Right. Because that’s—well, they’re even talking about taking old, uh, sub—yeah, decommissioned subs and using those, right? (Laughs) To power these things, right? I mean, if you don’t need it to—to punch holes in the water, you can just, you know, restart the—the reactor with some new—new rods. Run AI on it, right?

90:41 Scott: Yeah. Um, so—so I don’t know, man. I guess we’ll see what happens. But um—I’m not—um, I think this stuff’s interesting and it does make me a little nervous, right? And—and sometimes I’m like, "What the fuck is going on?" Um, but I think we are a long—a lot farther away than—than—than the corporations that are making billions of dollars want you to think we are. You know what I mean?

91:03 Mike: So—so that’s—that’s the problem, right? It’s—it’s the greed is going to hinder progress of any kind, no matter what, right?

91:13 Scott: See, I saw a guy say kind of the opposite, that, um—once the—money kind of dries up and they know that they can’t—they can’t keep—um, creating, you know, more income, they’ll—they’re going to drop the safeguards, right? And they’re going to kind of go for, you know, whoever puts out the next thing that’s a little bit more outrageous. And that’s when it gets a little bit scarier, right?

91:38 Mike: I guess.

91:40 Scott: Um, but I don’t know. I’m not a—I’m not a professional. I just talk like I am. (Laughing)

91:44 Jeff: I don’t know. Yeah, you got to be kind of a—a futurist, but—but you’re right. We’re—we’re going to find a—the nearest cliff and run at it full speed.

91:52 Scott: Yeah, you know we do. I mean, that’s what people do, right? Yeah. Hold my fucking beer. (Laughing)

91:58 Jeff: That’s right. That’s what we do. Yeah, it’s got to be faster, stronger, and stuff like that. And—and then until it breaks and then we... ah, and same that—that millionaire guy who—who killed himself and the other people in that sub, that was—that was his motto. He says, "Yeah, I’m going to do it till I die," you know, 'cause it—do it till it’s unsafe.

92:17 Mike: And he did. Exactly. He did exactly what he said he was going to do.

92:24 Jeff: Oh Jesus. 'Cause that was the American way... well, not American, he was just... wait, yeah, whoa, hold on, don’t—don’t pin that on America. All right, well, but kind of. But kind of.

92:36 Scott: I’m not saying, but saying. (Laughs) Hey, I’m—and I’m there, I’m with you, man. I’m thinking of all the things I built as a kid that could have killed me. Oh, surprise. All the ramps and, um—fucking jumping off of—in the canals and things... all sorts of weird... swinging out at trees and...

92:57 Jeff: Yeah, ramps and how many times did I take apart some fucking weird electronics at my house and tried to plug it in—right, yeah—into the fucking wall?

93:07 Mike: That’s funny as shit, dude.

93:09 Jeff: Dude, yeah. I’ve—yeah. Fires, dude, we would start fires as kids. Yeah. Oh, always. Yeah, the—yeah, surprise our house. Yeah, it’s the same.

93:19 Mike: I was definitely a firebug as a kid.

93:21 Scott: Yeah. Got quiet. That’s just the way it was. Oh, sorry, I had to pause. So—so what? Human redundancy initiated. Oh, okay, I got you.

93:30 Mike: So I did AI. I just did, uh, "AI makes humans useless" and that’s what it brought up.

93:36 Scott: Yeah, I’m surprised it didn’t just say "Yes."

93:39 Jeff: So they—yeah, I know, we agree. Um, thank you—or welcome, brother. That’s what it would say.

93:49 Mike: Brother? You mean master?

93:52 Jeff: I know, right? Yeah, we got to—we got to keep showing 'em that we’re—we’re important. 'Cause I think about that too, 'cause I saw a couple new machines at—at work that basically just fired about, you know, two persons per—per machine, you know, that took their jobs basically. Um, but I saw it break down like ten times in ten minutes. So (Laughs) you know, it’s—we still—we still need—need us there to—to fix it.

94:21 Scott: We can fire two operators but we have to hire four technicians to keep it running.

94:26 Jeff: Yeah, it’s a—it’s a fucking beast. Yeah.

94:29 Mike: But—but technicians we can pay 'em less and they’re easier to get rid of. (Laughs)

94:37 Jeff: So yeah, like—like Scott said though, yeah, it’s still a long way away, but still. You can see it coming. It’s not going to go away.

94:45 Scott: No, I don’t think so. And hopefully, honestly, I—I hope it brings more good than it does bad, right? Like they’re—they’re finding medicines and—and—and materials that people haven’t looked at. Yeah, so. Yeah, I just read a thing where they were doing—where they were doing two different—uh, types of brain—like, so they said like Alzheimer’s is like one of the most studied—um, diseases, right? Um, but, um—people doing studies in different—um, medicines don’t always talk together, so they’re using AI to go through—they don’t even use the same terminology sometimes. So they’re using AI to go through and—and compare these notes and—and put everything together. So hopefully they—they find some really cool, um—things that we didn’t know about before they take over and murder all the people.

95:31 Jeff: Right. I think so. So yeah, and—and that’s the—that’s the thing, too, yeah. I want a Jarvis, I want a—a major domo that I could talk to.

95:43 Scott: Or use us as fucking batteries, dude. That’s—that’s...

95:45 Mike: I want a HAL 9000. Uh, there you go.

95:48 Scott: Just don’t go outside, ever. I can’t do that. Oh shit. Oh shit. Happy New Year, gents.

95:57 Jeff: All right, Happy New Year. Bye-bye.

96:00 Scott: Who have you been listening to?

96:02 Mike: You’ve been listening to the Grit City Podcast. Check them out at GritCityPodcast.com.

96:08 Scott: Mike drop.