Jonathan Wier (00:01) Welcome to the show all 11 of you sexy, sexy, sexy people. How are you doing? It's me, Jonathan and my good buddy, James. Hi, James. How are you doing? Good buddy. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (00:09) It's me! Hello! Hi! Okay, Just finishing up the last little bits of of a... nagging cold. Jonathan Wier (00:20) Uhhh... One Is The Lonliest Jameba (00:22) It's never been, it's like, it's not been bad. Like it actually, the worst I felt was yesterday, which seems odd because like it started with a runny nose like last Sunday. And then like, it's just been pretty much that. But like I had a kind of a nasty headache and a cough yesterday, but I'm all right. I'm all right. Jonathan Wier (00:40) I'm, I'm actually genuinely shocked that I haven't gotten sick considering I'm working with the public again. But no. I'm still just following COVID protocols though, with everybody like six feet, six feet. Mask, gloves, the election was rigged, all of that. COVID protocols. Actually, I watched One Is The Lonliest Jameba (00:47) Mmm, then he hadn't done that for some time Mm-hmm. Yeah, nothing wrong with that. Jonathan Wier (01:10) binge watched the store or the show Stoop Superstore, which is an NBC show. It's pretty good. Not like the great show ever, but pretty good. Like The Office basically, if it was set in a Walmart and their COVID season was honestly like PTSD inducing. Like there's so much stuff you just forgot was just a daily part of life. Like there at one point a guy is wearing a mask and then pulls it down to sneeze and then puts it back up. I was like, my God. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (01:45) Yeah. Jonathan Wier (01:48) all the time with that. And in fact, I believe I did that. Well, no, but I believe I did. I don't, I'm not mad at people for doing that. Because I think I did it once. And the reason is because you're just not thinking. You're just like, I don't want to get snot all over myself. So I'm gonna pull my mask down. But I did sneeze into my arm and then put the mask back on. But it's still worse. And I guess I don't know who cares. I'm glad we're done with all that. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (01:51) I don't want to get myself sick. What am I, an idiot? Jonathan Wier (02:17) stuff it's over. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (02:19) Forever. Yeah. No other problems ever. Jonathan Wier (02:22) No, none. We solved them all and certainly there won't be another pandemic ever again. Because everything is... the country's in the very best of hands. It... as always, yeah. You know, I'm sorry, but it's hard to take the bird flu threats seriously this time. I know we went through COVID and everything, but how many times do it's... One Is The Lonliest Jameba (02:27) So, bird who? Bird flu, bird who? That's what I say. Jonathan Wier (02:51) It's the boy who cried. Flu like it just I don't know. Maybe it's bad this time. I don't know. Maybe it's real. Doesn't seem it. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (03:04) Tell that to my eggs, John. Tell that to my eggs. Jonathan Wier (03:07) Or is that why the price of eggs is going up? Man, yeah. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (03:11) They had to kill like half a million chickens. Jonathan Wier (03:14) Did they really? Is that a lot? I don't even know. Honestly, I feel like KFC does that every day. At least, right? One Is The Lonliest Jameba (03:17) Maybe it was more than that. I might be shaky on the numbers, but they had to kill it. So like, I guess... For whatever reason, I guess it's the conditions, hens in like brood houses are way more susceptible. So like once avian flu gets to like one bird, they're like, we just got to kill them all. So, yeah. Apparently it's okay to eat the meat. So maybe the chicken wing prank will go down. Jonathan Wier (03:44) Yeah, to stop it from spreading. it's... And then we can't even use the meme. But the eggs are going up, that's the problem. All right, I'm gonna ask you this, and I'm kind of shocked by the answer. You'll probably, knowing you, will shoot way over the number. How many known chickens are there in the world? One Is The Lonliest Jameba (04:01) Yeah, that's the rub. Like, currently? Jonathan Wier (04:18) Yes. Known. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (04:22) no. Yeah, because there's there's there's feral chickens. I saw them in Maui. Jonathan Wier (04:26) Yeah, and Key West. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (04:30) Living in peace among the cats. It was adorable. I would assume in the quadrillions? Jonathan Wier (04:40) I can't say the answer now because it just doesn't seem that impressive. quadrillions. You realize there's like less than a quadrillion atoms on like a beach, right? One Is The Lonliest Jameba (04:48) Yeah? I don't know if that's true. Jonathan Wier (04:58) Probably. There are more chickens than people. Let me just put it that way. Yeah, yeah. To feed us all because we're fat pigs. I don't how many pigs there are. 27.7 billion known chickens. Yeah. You think that's low? Of course. Yeah. Why does that seem low? I would have... Well, they're reproducing so quickly. That's... One Is The Lonliest Jameba (05:03) Yeah, I would have assumed that. That seems low. That seems really low. Yeah. What? Because there's like... Well, yeah, and I guess their lifespan is not terribly long, but like, there's what? Tens of billions of people on the planet? I would assume it would be a well more than like 2.7 chickens to people ratio. Jonathan Wier (05:41) Well, eight, let's say there's eight billion people on the planet. So a little over three and a half. Yeah. Yeah. Three and a half to one. I don't know. My favorite, one of my favorite lines from a recent movie is from the Holdovers where he says, life is like a hen house ladder, shitty and short. I think that was great. And it's a perfect compliment to life is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (05:47) Three. I need more chickens than that, frankly. Jonathan Wier (06:11) Actually, you do if you just flip it over, Gump. Maybe if you could read. Maybe if you could read. All right, we're gonna do show today. Here's what we're gonna talk about. What if I told you that people are blindly following AI, like it's a GPS leading them straight into a lake? What if I told you intelligent life should be everywhere in the universe, but we found nothing? And what if I told you that mummies smell good? And I'm not just talking about your mom, I'm about mummies. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (06:16) Greetings. Jonathan Wier (06:40) from ancient Egypt. Today we're gonna break down why we trust too much, question too little, and ignore the things that shape us the most. let's get into it. First story I wanna talk about is this. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (06:48) Like smelly mummies. Jonathan Wier (06:56) You ever make a bad decision and just wish you had some order something to blame? Like, hey, I didn't screw up, you know, the magic eight ball told me to drive off of that cliff with my family. Well, the good news is that AI is now the world's most expensive, high tech scapegoat. And according to new study, people are happily using it to avoid thinking and responsibility. So there's an article out about a study on AI. what they basically it's out and about just like Roscoe the chicken. So what they did is they did a study where they simulated the idea of you have to look at like a village from a drone's perspective, and pick out the bad guys and kill the bad guys. However, you might also kill a bunch of children. So you can do that yourself. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (07:28) So that article is out and about. Okay. Thank Jonathan Wier (07:56) or have this computer help you this AI scan it for you. And you can rely on that. But we will tell you the AI is not reliable. We don't know whether it's it's good or not. And so they did it a couple ways. They had one where was like the AI was a chat bot and are like, can you scan this village for me and tell me where the bad guys are? And the AI is like, yeah, you can tell because they're, you know, One Is The Lonliest Jameba (07:59) So. Jonathan Wier (08:23) I'm saying the AI is racist, not me! God! One Is The Lonliest Jameba (08:27) They're wearing black cowboy hats and not white cowboy hats. That's how you know. Jonathan Wier (08:30) That's how you can tell. Yeah. It's like no country for old man Anton Chagor not wearing a black hat but had dark hair. You know he's bad. Yeah. So anyway, they had it with a chatbot and the chatbot was like, are you sure? Like, I really don't know what I'm doing. And they're like, yes, do it. Scan it. And then they had another way where they literally had a robot come into the room with the people. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (08:38) Mmm. Jonathan Wier (08:57) and sit across from them. And then the robot would look and go, you should kill that guy and that guy and that guy and drop bombs there. By the way, I have no idea what the fuck I'm talking about. I don't know what I'm doing. And the people were just like, okay, yeah, no, good enough. Almost 100 % of the time, the people went with the chatbot or the AI. And it drove their success rate. from 75 % to about 50 % of actually targeting somebody that was actually bad, right? So that's a little bit scary, because basically, it's like the stories about somebody driving their car into a lake because the GPS told them to, told me to go that way. I don't question it, I just do it. Or even getting away from AI and that kind of thinking. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (09:26) Okay. Jonathan Wier (09:53) It's like the episode of The Simpsons where Homer avoids a nuclear meltdown by doing eeny meeny miny moe on the buttons and he landed on moe which happened to shut down the right thing. So it's not about knowing what you're doing. It's just about having something to blame and something else to leverage the responsibility onto. Kind of frightening. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (10:21) Yeah, it's not great, but you know, being an English teacher for a short period of time and the amount of stuff that I've gotten, it's just obviously from chat GPT. And that's the thing. It's like. These kids, I've had them for months now and I have them write a little bit each day. And I am aware of their capacities. There was one kid that surprised me. There was one kid and he turned in something and I looked at it and I'm like, so I was like, if this was anybody else, I would swear it was AI. I still ran it through like an AI detector, three different AI detectors. Like, no, not a kid's just weird. Awesome. Awesome kid. Jonathan Wier (11:00) Did you do that? Mm-hmm. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (11:11) But he's weirdo. And I was like, okay, all right. Jonathan Wier (11:15) I like to think when I was in high school, at least one teacher would be like, if like I was in high school now, they would have been like, I am aware of how freaking weird this kid is. So I'm gonna run this anyway, but no, I'm sure he, yeah. That kid who was in here the other day pretending to read Nietzsche. Yeah, okay. I'll just run his shit through the One Is The Lonliest Jameba (11:34) No? Okay. Jonathan Wier (11:43) who just be funnelingly flipping through books that are way over his intelligence level. Yeah, I'll just I'll run it through there. Okay, let's put a pin in that because I want get back to something I think about every once in a while. And that was how Chris Carpenter was almost. Yeah, he was always Brad Pitt, but he was also almost kicked out of school for a short story he wrote. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (12:00) Almost Brad Pitt. Yeah, I know. Jonathan Wier (12:09) And I'll tell you about it in a second. Anyway, what freaks me out about this is one, you know, we're getting to the point where doctors are using AI. So is that because AI is better? Or is it because oh, now I have something to blame. And if you want to sue somebody, sue open AI and not me or the hospital? Is it just the responsibility shifting if you're in a self driving car like I have, and it mows down a One Is The Lonliest Jameba (12:31) It's fast. Jonathan Wier (12:39) you know, a group of nuns on the sidewalk, which happens. I don't know why that's always like a reference to people may like, it was a Cadillac filled with nuns or a group of nuns on the sidewalk, like, nuns are so blameless. Only people who have never gone to Catholic school would think mowing down a group of nuns would be like, they were so innocent. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (12:44) It thought they were penguins. Jonathan Wier (13:05) Anyway, or then I was like, I blame Tesla. Or just a military operator bombing a village going, sorry, AI. Yep. It's like that. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (13:19) That's been their whole shtick about using the AI is that like, yeah, we'll use it to assist, but there's ultimately a human that makes the decision. Like that's been their their caveat, their little like, well, yeah, but if people are blindly going like, well, yeah, I mean, it's a robot, it's gotta be right. Jonathan Wier (13:28) Right. Yeah, mean, that's that's the worry of getting around it, though it does surprise me with Teslas and self-driving and there's a Ford that also does this now with self-driving features that they're literally saying you can have your hands off the wheel now. Like you still need to be watching the road and we have a camera in the car watching you. And if your eyes hurt on the road, we'll know. And if you pick up your phone, start looking at it, we'll know and we'll start yelling at you. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (14:01) cluster. Jonathan Wier (14:07) Actually, something went off in my car the other day. It said active monitoring started while I was in self driving mode. And I was just like, Hi, Elon, how you doing? Have fun on SNL. You hack. SNL, good one. So I don't know, like AI is great. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (14:27) Listen, hell. Jonathan Wier (14:37) You know, it could, it can write bad poetry, make deep fake videos that are destroying our society and probably do your taxes and there's a good chance you'll wind up in jail. But maybe we should still think for ourselves when the stakes are higher, you know, like global annihilation. If we're relying on AI to run, I don't know, the nuclear security or drones and things like that, I think that we should, we should still leave that up to humans. As tempting as it is, you the responsibility. What? One Is The Lonliest Jameba (15:07) Or when you put the rib eyes on the top shelf we put the rib eyes on the top shelf when the stakes are higher Jonathan Wier (15:12) Yeah. Yeah, that's good. I know I got I got it. I got the joke about something I said a while ago. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (15:16) Didn't want it. Didn't want it. top notch stuff. So they pay the big bucks. Jonathan Wier (15:25) Anyway, so my our friend, our good friend, Chris Carpenter, when he was in high school, he was in a creative writing class. And it was a blow off class for him for some reason, I guess, like he didn't really need the credits that bad or it was like he didn't take it seriously. And he decided and this was pre columbine, I just want to stress this. He decided to write a story about a school shooting. More or less glorifying the school shooter. And the reason he did it was because he, not that he, if you ever know him, he's like the nicest guy. He would never, he's never done anything violent in his life. Can't even imagine he owns a gun, much less would know how to operate one. But. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (16:01) you I assume and this is is again. I love the guy dearly great wonderful friend I imagine him shooting again to be like him swimming a swimming a baseball bat Jonathan Wier (16:31) Which is one of the funniest things that you've ever seen. Him swinging a baseball bat is like my like my if my dog started walking on his hind legs and asked my wife to dance. It's that awkward and weird. And sexy. Anyway, he decided to write my story. He does. No, nobody. puts Gordon in the corner. So One Is The Lonliest Jameba (16:50) Yeah. Big Patrick Swayze energy, year dog. Jonathan Wier (17:01) he decided to write the story just because he wanted to see how far he can push the envelope. And so he did, and he wrote it and he turned it in and she, the teacher, loved it, thought it was great, was like, this is so compelling and dark and well written and like, hey, plus plus plus plus plus across, like across the paper, like wrote a plus on her desk because she was so like writing the pluses on it. So the next story he wrote was about two children. who gets stoned and go on a magical journey. But he wrote, it was supposed to be a children's story, right? But he made it so that like the kids don't explicitly smoke pot, but they go to, they push a button that has a leaf on it and then smoke blows in their face and they inhale it. And then they go to a magical place where like the Beatles are hanging out with. Rolling Stones. I don't remember the story, but it's more or less that. And she lost her mind, like went fucking insane on him, like just ape shit, called him to her office, yelled at him there, and he was just like, what are you talking about? Like that's bad. I wrote a story about a guy going around killing people in school and you were fine with you gave me an A plus on that. Are you kidding? And she's like, this is just too far in drug references. my god, it's disgusting. And she like went to the principal about it to try to get him like kicked out of the class. If I remember correctly, it would be good if we had him here to corroborate. But I remember he caught way more hell for that story than he did for a story about his school shooting. Glorifying one. And yeah, so you know. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (18:38) Corr-a-borate. Jonathan Wier (18:54) That's what I think of what I think of creative writing. And I think maybe if we have less of that in school, it's not the worst thing in the world. Sorry, James. I'm just kidding. Of course it's good to exercise that prefrontal cortex. Next story is this. If life is so inevitable, then where is everybody? It's the Fermi paradox, if you've ever heard of it. So scientists have been arguing about this for years. On one side, you have the people who believe that humans are just a cosmic accident, that intelligent life only happens when the universe rolls a perfect set of die. On the other, You have researchers like the ones from Penn State behind this new study who say that no, actually life is inevitable if it finds a way if a planet has the right conditions. So there's a theory called the hard steps theory that it's basically like life had to survive a bunch of near impossible hurdles to evolve into something as complex as humans and basically this One Is The Lonliest Jameba (19:46) It finds a way Jonathan Wier (20:04) theory is bunch of humans patting ourselves on the back for being so fucking smart and sophisticated. But this new research by Penn State flips that. And instead of intelligence being a fluke, it actually argues that life naturally progresses into something smart if a planet is habitable for long enough. So if a planet sits in the Goldilocks zone, is what we're called, where it's not too hot, not too cold, that's where the Earth is, if it has liquid water and stays stable, then life should pop up and evolve into intelligence as part of a predictable process. But here's the problem with that. It makes it seem like life is inevitable and it makes it seem like it could happen anywhere, except we've been scanning the sky for decades and still haven't found any alien civilizations. No radio signals, no highways, intergalactic or not, no cosmic McDonald's, nothing. So, if life is inevitable, where the hell is everybody? Do they owe us money? Are they wearing a mustache and walking past us on the street? One Is The Lonliest Jameba (21:08) They're ducking us. Thanks. Jonathan Wier (21:19) I dog. I bow. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (21:20) Not Tybo. Tybo. Jonathan Wier (21:24) No, Billy blanks over there. So, I don't know. It's something I ponder a lot and it's something I like to think about is the chances that we're alone in the universe are none because there's way too many stars with planets around them, way too much that inevitably life obviously... Yeah. Well, actually, they theorize that there might be an end to our universe and there might be another universe outside of our universe like a bubble. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (21:45) Right. Galaxies and universes and not universes, because it's just one of those. That's the unit part. Multi. Jonathan Wier (21:59) Like, like we're like a bunch of bubble wrap universes. But the thing is, if they're out there, where are they? Because certainly some of those planets with that life had to have started before us. We've only been intelligent human beings for, well, I say intelligent, I should put that in massive air quotes, but we've only been sentient life for maybe a I like as far as history is concerned, we've only had history like where we writing shit down for about 8000 years. Tops. And then as far as like upright walking, we've only been like for around 100,000 to 2 million years. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (22:48) So, and I'd have to find it again, but it was... Kyle Hill is the guy and he's had a couple of different channels on YouTube but he kind of looks like, and he makes reference to it, he kind of looks like a T-MU version of Chris Evans. But he does eat us. Jonathan Wier (23:06) Good for him. A team of a team of version of Chris Evans is still pretty good looking guy. Yeah. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (23:12) Yeah, and he is. But he does like science videos and he talks about like, just the nature of our planet. Like if we were a little bit of a bigger planet, we wouldn't, by the laws of physics, be able to achieve exit velocity. Jonathan Wier (23:32) really? One Is The Lonliest Jameba (23:33) Yeah, like the nature of the size of our planet is sufficient that we can achieve escape velocity. If it was a little bit bigger, it's just not feasible. Jonathan Wier (23:42) So does that mean if we landed on a bigger planet, we wouldn't be able to leave it? One Is The Lonliest Jameba (23:46) depending on the atmosphere. Jonathan Wier (23:48) Okay. All right, that's interesting. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (23:51) But the nature of our planet, our gravity, our atmosphere, like... Jonathan Wier (23:56) So there's a couple of theories on why this might be on why if there's so much life out there, why we don't actually see aliens. The first is that we do and that's called the zoo hypothesis where they just they're just looking at us and just observing us. Yeah, I don't think the zoo hypothesis is correct though, because that that implies that they created us in the first place. It's more of like the National Geographic Geographic thing where they're watching the lions and hyenas tear at each other and just sit and bang on this is awesome. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (24:29) There's a Richard, an alien Richard Attenborough just narrating. Jonathan Wier (24:32) Yeah, yeah, just narrating. There's got to be at least one of one alien version of that guy, the National Geographic photographer that took the kid picture of the starving kid and then went home and blew his brains out. Not the kid, his own brains. It wasn't that dark. The kid starved to death. Don't worry about him. He's long dead. But hey, you want to pull it for it posthumously. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (24:50) Yeah, don't worry. He had a much more horrific death. A slow, death. Jonathan Wier (25:02) Not the kid again, the photographer again, that kid died unsung and unnamed. There's that, the National Geographic hypothesis. There's the idea that they don't expand because maybe they realize what's the point, everything is so far away. Why would there's no habitable planet that's worth expanding to and they just kind of stay home. I mean, you can kind of see that progression with human beings right now. The more... technologically advanced we get, the more we're staying in our own homes. You know, my fucking 15 year old doesn't leave his room. And then there's the other one, which is the darker theory, which is the great filter theory. And that's a theory that... at a certain point every civilization is doomed to fail because they just they develop the capability of blowing themselves up and killing everybody and they all inevitably do that. Don't like that one because right there. Right there. Yeah. Yeah. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (26:07) On the precipice? Uh... Well, if you can do it, I mean, you might as well see, I mean... What's the worst I can have? Jonathan Wier (26:21) You got to nuke something. That's what Nelson Muncie said. This is my second Simpsons reference this episode. I don't know. It's like you ever go to a mall that's empty? And it's eerie because you're like, well, have you ever gone to a mall in the last five years? One Is The Lonliest Jameba (26:32) You mean you ever go to them all? Jonathan Wier (26:38) But if you go into a mall that was like completely empty, it's eerie because you're like, somebody's supposed to be here, right? Like there should be something here. And that's what the universe feels like is like, where is everything? And that's I don't know. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (26:54) I've had a couple of day and it's not not so much anymore because I actually wake up too early now to go to work But I used to wake up Yeah Jonathan Wier (26:58) I hate that. You never get it right. I hate that so much. I'm with you. Never nail it. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (27:07) you used to wake up and take the dog for a walk in the morning before I went to work. let him get a little walk, little poop. The day lately routine before I fed him and went off to work. But, it was rare, but every now and then like, and we never walked like super far. go around the block, but like, you'd have these occasional days where like, you didn't see another house with the light on. You didn't see a car. You didn't hear another dog barking. You didn't see anybody or anything. And there's just like this weird like little thought that crept into my head. like. Was there like a thing that happened? Was there a rapture or like a nuclear event that somehow my house was impervious to? Is it just me and the dog now? Are we? And there's this little like just ever so brief like delusion that pops into the head. like, this is peculiar. There should be. Jonathan Wier (27:48) Everybody gone? There's a book I started reading, I haven't finished it or really gotten that far into it, it's called Cave Crawler Carl. And it's basically a guy is out chasing his cat at like three o'clock in the morning. And then all of a sudden that's when the aliens attack. But the way they attack is by crushing every building or anything with the ceiling on it. I don't really know how works. guess it's just gravity. I don't know. It's kind of a dumb thing, but it's kind of like that. And then just everybody's just gone immediately. Except for it's just a planet of dog walkers at that point. And almost people, yeah. Or, you know, people who lived in a part of the planet where they weren't... It wasn't night, so they might have been outside. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (28:46) And homeless people. Or like, you know, if they lived in like a straw hut, like if that roost collapse, you'd be like, Jonathan Wier (28:59) Mmm. Yeah, it's not gonna crush me. Yeah, just get all dusty. Yeah, I got mites or something all over me. God! One Is The Lonliest Jameba (29:10) This is an inconvenience, let me tell you. To build this hut again. Jonathan Wier (29:17) So I don't know. I find stories like that just so interesting because I don't know. It's something I grapple with a lot and I don't know why I think about it a lot, but like where is everything? I just keep waiting for it to happen. Where one day we're gonna wake up and the aliens are gonna be like, all right guys, look, we're tired of it. You guys are terrible at this game. Where the aliens are gonna be like, am with my son playing hide and seek. Where I'm just gonna be like. My god, I'm in the clock. I bet here the whole time. I literally sat in a corner put a blanket over my head What's wrong with you? One Is The Lonliest Jameba (29:55) It's like watching a little kid playing video games and they're just so bad at it you're like, give it here, give it here. Jonathan Wier (30:04) Alright, just let me do it. Just let me do it. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (30:07) This is, it's painful for me to watch. Jonathan Wier (30:10) I know this isn't good for your development, but I have to do this for you because you can't. Yeah, it's a funny thing with like kids, whether it needs a nephew or your own kids. You're like, I know this isn't helpful for you, but I can't stand to see you fail anymore. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (30:17) Like, guy, guy, guy. Like, at some point, Starfleet, ignore the Prime Directive. Help us out. Jonathan Wier (30:30) Help us, please. Please! One Is The Lonliest Jameba (30:34) We're drowning here, come on. Jonathan Wier (30:36) Alright, and my final story that I want to talk about today is Mummy Smells. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (30:42) Mmm. Jonathan Wier (30:43) So researchers analyzed the scent of ancient Egyptian mummies and instead of what what do think they would smell like? One Is The Lonliest Jameba (30:53) Ahhhh There's definitely a dust vibe I would pick up on, I would think. Jonathan Wier (30:59) Yeah, yeah, like like like a basement And not like a good finished basement, but like a basement with you know, a drain that has moss and flugs in it One Is The Lonliest Jameba (31:09) Well, they were pretty good about, like, they salted the shit out of it, and they put them in, like, the moisture I don't think would be a problem. I think it would be definitely kind of a dusty vibe, though. Jonathan Wier (31:20) Uh-huh. Dusty Vibe by the way, my stripper name. Yeah. Anyway. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (31:29) Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the stage Dusty Vibes! Is it, is it vibe singular or plural? Jonathan Wier (31:32) when it's vibes with a Y and a Z. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (31:39) Okay. V-Y-B easy or just V-Y-B-Z? Jonathan Wier (31:44) I'm easy. Anyway, the idea of me stripping is so grotesque for so many reasons. It's like one, I've not maintained this at all. And second of all, I don't know, the dancing would be so even if I had a good body, the dancing would be so agonizingly awkward that everybody would would give me money out of pity. I'm sure I would make it rain. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (31:46) Heheheheeeey! Hey. There's gotta be a market. There's gotta be a market. Jonathan Wier (32:15) You know what? think I think I know. I know a gentleman who's gay and his thing is just nerds. He love he's just so gay for nerds. And I guess that's it. That's it. He pays me to dance and that's why I call myself Dusty Vibes. Anyway, um, mummies actually smell good. They they dug a bunch of them up and smelled them. And they found aromas of pine. I don't I don't know why we're just getting there. By the way, I don't know why we're just getting this now. Wouldn't look if you were near a mummy, wouldn't your first inclination or second or third to be the smell it. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (32:51) You diggin' all those puppies out for them? Wanna smell them? For science? At some point you're just gonna, you're just gonna, right? Jonathan Wier (33:13) Yeah. At some point, you're just going to sniff the mummy. Like after you're done examining it and how they did it, like, they took out the brain, whatever, through the nose. Wow. Then you would start sniffing the damn thing. Yeah. So why it's until now that they're like, actually, they smell good. I guess we're just tapped out on the mummy market for interesting things to talk about anymore. So. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (33:26) You're gonna smell the glove. Jonathan Wier (33:41) That's just a study that came out that said that mummies actually smell good. But it's kind of a little crazy how little we think about smell when it comes to history. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (33:50) Do they specify what kind of aromas we're getting here? Jonathan Wier (33:55) Yeah, no, I said it's pine juniper and other spices. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (34:02) It's like tasting notes for a... Jonathan Wier (34:04) Yeah, for wine. What? I mean, it makes sense. They're, like you said, they're salted, they're packed. It's not like they decomposed. That's why they're mummies. And, you know, they would probably shove them full of like nice smelling, just right up the ass with, you know. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (34:23) They put those little silica packs, do not eat in them. Jonathan Wier (34:25) Ha ha ha! That's actually the curse of Tootin' Common is those dumb motherfuckers were eating the silica packs and just dropping dead. Just foam coming out of their mouth. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (34:37) What? What is this? good. Jonathan Wier (34:40) But it is crazy how little we think about smell when it comes to history. Like, when time travelers go back, they never go, God, guys, thanks. They're just always like, yeah, which would should be your reaction. Instead of going back and like banging princesses and stuff like that, would, know, stinky she'd be. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (34:53) These people do not bathe Hey, but you know, you only live once. Jonathan Wier (35:05) Go have sex with, what I'm saying is if you want to have positive aromatic sex, then don't bang a living princess, bang a mummy. They're going to smell good. That's what I'm saying. So I'm trying to say if somebody would let me, but everyone's trying to stop me from getting the truth out. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (35:25) Save a horse, bang a mummy. Stay in a Horace Bank of money. Jonathan Wier (35:30) What what save a horse bang a mummy One Is The Lonliest Jameba (35:35) Yeah. Jonathan Wier (35:42) I don't know. It's not just history though. also happens... How much... People spend thousands on how things look and, you know, I guess there's perfume and cologne, but you're kind of looked down upon if you're a man who wears cologne by me, because I think you're trying to cover something up. That's mostly what... Well, yeah, that's the only good one. But like wearing deodorant, brushing your teeth, all that stuff, just to have a nice neutral smell. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (35:44) channel. I mean, unless it's Dracar Noir. Jonathan Wier (36:12) But you don't want to have like an odor that's positive, but you want to look good. I don't know. I, maybe some people do. I just can't even imagine the time and effort that would go into that that I would care about. Do you? One Is The Lonliest Jameba (36:17) You don't want to signature sent? Yeah. Jonathan Wier (36:30) You don't wear, do you wear anything? One Is The Lonliest Jameba (36:33) deodorant. that's pretty much the... and I've made a deliberate effort to avoid antiperspirants with aluminum because I don't want dementia and there's strongly evidence to support that too much skin contact with aluminum can potentially cause dementia. yeah, that... Dementia terrifies me. That's scary one for me. Jonathan Wier (36:35) Yeah, brush my teeth and put on deodorant. That's as neutral smelling as I'm getting. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (37:02) That's why I drink too much. Jonathan Wier (37:04) was gonna say, what other than the aluminum are you doing to avoid dementia? You don't sleep well, you drink. I don't know what, those are two pretty serious contributing factors to it. Do you use aluminum cans for anything? One Is The Lonliest Jameba (37:11) No. time. Look, the Coca-Cola and Dr. Pepper 7-Up company, the Snapple Dr. Pepper, Snapple Keurig Dr. Pepper now, it's a massive conglomerate. Anyway, they have my best interest in heart. They wouldn't do anything that would harm me. Jonathan Wier (37:31) Mm-hmm. This is gonna sound callous, but actually dementia doesn't scare me. From my perspective. It should scare my family. Because they think I'm a difficult ro-to-ho now. Just think about when I don't have my mental faculties. That's gotta be fun for everybody. No, I want to live long enough to be a burden on my family. That is my ultimate goal. Like I... What? Yeah, yeah. So hell no. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (38:02) See, I just have a dog. I just have a dog, so. Jonathan Wier (38:09) Yes, long as you just get a food timer, he won't notice. I mean, don't want to. Better get one of those, then you can start using that sweet aluminum-based antiperspirant deodorant. Or whatever. I don't even know, I don't think I use it. I don't use an antiperspirant. I use deodorant. That's different, right? Yeah, because I really sweat that much. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (38:15) I don't have food, or money. Okay. Yeah. Cause that's, I sweat like a whore in church. I'm a sweaty, sweaty boy, especially if it's hot outside. Dag gum. And I am a nightmare in the summertime, cause I'm just a human space eater. Jonathan Wier (38:38) Mm. Okay, let's just go back to the smell thing. I'm surprised stores don't try to go out of their way to have like good smells. know, like Abercrombie and Fitch is the only store I can think of that has like an odor. And it's just smells like somebody wrung out of teenagers brains into a bottle and start spraying it everywhere. It's it's doesn't smell good. Not that I bend Abercrombie and Fitch, but if you just walk past one, Cinnabon has a smell. And I believe just inhaling the air around Cinnabon is at least 1200 calories. I don't really have, I don't know. The store I work at has actually a really nice smell, but it's not mandatory. My manager just makes sure that the place smells really nice. But people do come in all the time and be like, it smells really nice in here. Like, yeah, I know. That's me. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (39:46) People have taken their shoes off. Jonathan Wier (39:48) Maybe that's why I think about it. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (39:52) Because not everybody comes in classy. Jonathan Wier (39:55) I've only dealt with one person who had smelly feet so far. It's been three months, but yeah, yeah. And she apologized copiously for it. She was very nice about it. And I was like, I'm probably getting a sale out of this. She feels bad. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (39:58) Okay. loves. Jonathan Wier (40:15) I think most people plan on going in, so they're like, okay, I better make sure my feet don't sting. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (40:23) Give the Toad a little extra attention in the shower today. Jonathan Wier (40:25) Just little bit. So anyway, yeah, I don't think any other stores have smells. Yankee Candle, but that's because it's candles. They just have a bunch of them. You would think it would be an emphasis is my point. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (40:37) I mean, the breeze is still around, so... It's a breeze. Jonathan Wier (40:41) What's the still around? What's a breeze? thub breeze. I don't know why I was not hearing you correctly. Yeah, thub breeze. Anyway, yeah, I think it's something we should focus on more as a society. We've experienced every other level of entertainment. I want Smell-O-Rama. I want that to actually become a thing. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (40:45) Fuh Breeze. Sssss-puh! I need to see who is that. I saw a movie once. can't remember if Chris was there or not. know I was there, I know Lauren. Lauren, our friend, was there. It was a movie called Perfume, and it was a French movie about a guy who was like a super smeller. Jonathan Wier (41:28) Yeah, there's a book. It's based on a book. Yeah. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (41:31) It was weird and it was dark and it was... Jonathan Wier (41:34) Yeah, there's a... Wait, no. But he can smell, but... I can't remember. He has no natural odor or something like that, isn't that right? One Is The Lonliest Jameba (41:48) I think it was just that he had just an incredibly sensitive, sensitive smell. Jonathan Wier (41:51) sensitive, sensitive. All right, you know what I'm gonna do right now, going with the smell thing. I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna find a clip from a movie, play it, and then we're gonna each decide what it smells like in that room. Okay? All right. Wow, definitely Finn was on my computer. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (42:07) Okay. Jonathan Wier (42:17) or I'm just gonna skip. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (42:51) You've organized us. Jonathan Wier (42:53) Ha It's the Godfather, opening scene to the Godfather. What does that room smell like? mahogany rich mahogany One Is The Lonliest Jameba (43:06) stale cigarette smoke. Jonathan Wier (43:08) Ooh, yeah. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (43:10) And the faintest scent of orange peel. Brando likes oranges. Jonathan Wier (43:18) Okay. All right. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (43:20) And apparently that's like a... It's like a precursor to death. Jonathan Wier (43:23) It's a poor precursor to death. Yeah. I need to tell you this real quick and then we'll get back into this dumb thing I'm doing. So the Chiefs obviously lost the Super Bowl. Finn was devastated by it because I realized he's only probably can only remember them winning Super Bowls. They've won two in a row and the last time they lost or didn't make One Is The Lonliest Jameba (43:37) What? you Jonathan Wier (43:51) make it a one, he was five. I don't think he watched that game with me. But he's been obsessed with them for the last three years and then they lose. So he was devastated and I basically was like, buddy, most things are a disappointment. Like, no matter what you love at a certain point, it's going to disappoint you. It just has to. not sustained greatness is an impossibility and life is going to break your heart. just happens. And I felt bad about it. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (44:17) That's it's job. That's life's job. Jonathan Wier (44:20) And and that's why it's so important to enjoy the good times when they happen because it's not guaranteed that they're ever coming back again. The dark thing to tell an eight year old I know but whatever. then later at the same time I mean Henry and I have been watching the Godfather movies. So we watched Godfather one which he loved and thought was great. We watched Godfather two which he liked even better. And then the night of the Super Bowl he was like hey can we watch Godfather three? And I was like I'm not going through this again. He's like what is like, I already had to explain to one kid tonight that the things you love will end up disappointing you. And for Finn, that was the Chiefs getting their asses kicked by the Eagles and for you, it's going to be seeing Sofia Coppola on screen. That's what it is. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (45:14) Not as a director, as an actress. Jonathan Wier (45:16) As a director, she's fantastic. As an actress, for those of you don't know, The Godfather 3 is not a terrible movie, but it's not as good as the first two would have been no matter what. Because it's like way too much like political intrigue and financial bullshit. The church is involved, it's all sorts of garbage. But it's really dragged down by Sofia Coppola, Francis Ford Coppola's daughter. being in it because Winona Ryder was supposed to play that part and then had a nervous breakdown on set. So at the last minute they had to swap her out for Francis, for Coppola's daughter, who by the way, according to other things I've seen is not that bad of an actress. She just wasn't ready for that role and didn't fit the part. But he insisted I'm watching. was like, okay, here we go. Hey. And 20 minutes in, he's like, I can't do this. And it's like, One Is The Lonliest Jameba (46:18) Stop. Jonathan Wier (46:21) Yep, that's how it One Is The Lonliest Jameba (46:23) Godfather 3 was his Fredo. Jonathan Wier (46:25) yeah, Godfather 3 was his patch home storing a pick 6. The Cooper Dejean. Dejean. It bothers me. The guy's name is Cooper Dejean and everybody calls him Cooper Dejean. What country do we live in? Is this Germany we're calling Dejean Dejean? Well you wear jeans like John. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (46:45) We called Jonathan Wier (46:52) Alright, hold on a second. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (46:54) It Jonathan Wier (46:56) Avra. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (46:59) It's certainly not farf. Jonathan Wier (47:02) All right, here we go. Okay, hold on. Let switch to it. Alright, that's the opening scene of Pulp Fiction. where Samuel Jackson and John Travolta confront a bunch of people who owe Marcellus Wallace money. They sit down and eat a hamburger with them for a second, though it seems way too early in the morning to be eating hamburgers. It seems like it was early. Maybe I was wrong. Oh, that's a good point. And then Samuel Jackson proceeds to kill them all. What did that room smell like? One Is The Lonliest Jameba (47:23) Okay. Not in LA buddy, not in LA. 24 hour burger town. free or post gunfire. Jonathan Wier (47:53) Let's do both. So pre-gunfire. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (47:54) Okay. A little bit of marijuana smoke. A hint of the Hawaiian burger. Jonathan Wier (47:58) yeah, that's good. Pick a hoon-a-burger? Yeah, a Hawaiian burger. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (48:07) Uhhh... Jonathan Wier (48:07) I would say French fries would be in there too, right? I mean, if you're gonna go with that. Yeah, I would say more than the hamburger. Yep, yep. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (48:10) Yeah, yeah, a little bit of greasy fast food aroma. I'm assuming just a titch of B.O. These guys have probably been up all night. Jonathan Wier (48:20) They were a bunch of... Yep. Yep. What does cocaine smell like? I think that would probably also be in there. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (48:28) think it's a pretty neutral smell. I'm not positive on that. I don't have a ton of experience, but I guess depending on what you cut it with. Cordite. Yeah. Just gunpowder. Spent gunpowder. Jonathan Wier (48:30) Yeah. All right. That's good. What about after? guess all that stuff, but just with... And maybe a little bit of blood like blood has a smell right? Yeah. Yeah. One Is The Lonliest Jameba (48:43) A little bit coppery, but I think the- Have you been to a shooting range? to do that. Jonathan Wier (48:56) No, I mean, I just go outside and just shoot at the moon. You know, one day I'll get it, one day. All right, that's the show, bye! One Is The Lonliest Jameba (48:59) Yeah.