EPISODE 271 [INTRODUCTION] [0:00:14.2] MD: Hi folks and welcome to First Bite, Fed, Fun, and Functional, a speech therapy podcast sponsored by SpeechTherapyPD.com. I am your host on this nerd venture, Michelle Dawson MS, CCC-SLP, CLC, the all-things PEDs SLP. I am a colleague in the trenches of home health and early intervention right there with you. I run my own private practice at HeartWood Speech Therapy, here in Cola Town, South Carolina and I guest lecture nationwide on best practices for early intervention for the medically complex infant and children. First BiteÕs mission is short and sweet, to bring light, hope, knowledge, and joy to the pediatric clinician, parent, or advocate. [0:01:01.5] EF: By way of a nerdy conversation, so thereÕs plenty of laughter too. [0:01:04.8] MD: In this podcast, we cover everything from AAC to breastfeeding. [0:01:10.2] EF: Ethics on how to run a private practice. [0:01:11.9] MD: Pediatric dysphasia to conical supervision. [0:01:16.0] EF: And all other topics in the world of pediatric speech pathology. Our goal is to bring evidence-based practice straight to you by interviewing subject matter experts. [0:01:25.1] MD: To break down the communication barriers so that we can access the knowledge of their fields. [0:01:30.9] EF: Or as a close friend says, to build the bridge. [0:01:34.2] MD: By bringing other professionals and experts in our field together, we hope to spark advocacy, joy, and passion for continuing to grow and advance care for our little ones. [0:01:45.6] EF: Every fourth episode, I join in. IÕm Erin Forward, MSP, CCC-SLP, the Yankee by way of Rochester, New York transplant who actually inspired this journey. I bring a different perspective that of a new-ish clinician when experience in early intervention, pediatric acute care, and non-profit pediatric outpatient settings. [0:02:06.0] MD: So, sit back, relax, and watch out for all her girls, and enjoy this geeky gig brought to you by SpeechTherapyPD.com. [DISCLAIMER] [0:02:20.5] MD: Hey, this is Michelle Dawson and I need to update my disclosure statements. So, my nonfinancial disclosures, I actively volunteer with Feeding Matters, National Foundation of Swallowing Disorders, NFOSD, Dysphasia Outreach Project, DOP. I am a former treasurer with the Council Estate Association Presidency, CESAP. A past president of the South Carolina Speech Language and Hearing Association, SCSHA, a current board of trustees member with the Communication Disorders Foundation of Virginia, and I am a current member of ASHA, ASHA SIG 13, SCSHA, The Speech Language Hearing Association of Virginia, SHAV, a member of The National Black Speech Language Hearing Association, NBASLH, and Dysphasia Research Society, DRS. My financial disclosures include receiving compensation for First Bite Podcast from SpeechTherapyPD.com as well as from additional webinars and for webinars associated with Understanding Dysphagia, which is also a podcast with SpeechTherapyPD.com, and I currently receive a salary from the University of South Carolina in my work as adjunct professor and Student Services Coordinator. And I receive royalties from the sale of my book, Chasing the Swallow: Truth, Science, and Hope for Pediatric Feeding and Swallowing Disorders, as well as compensation for the CEUs associated with it from speechtherapypd.com. So those are my current disclosure statements. Thanks, guys. 0:04:18] EF: Hi, this is Erin Forward, and these are my disclosure statements. I receive a salary from Cincinnati Children's Hospital Medical Center. I receive royalties from SpeechTherapyPD for my work with First Bite Podcast and other presentations. I also receive payment for sales from the First Bite boutique, which I have with Michelle Dawson. For non-financial disclosures, I am a member of ASHA and a member of Special Interest Group 13. I also am a volunteer for Feeding Matters. I am a contributor for the book, Chasing the Swallow with Michelle Dawson, which I receive no financial gain. I also am a member of the South Carolina Coalition Committee with ICLDIF full-time. [0:04:58] EF: The views and opinions expressed in today's podcast do not reflect the organizations associated with the speakers and are their views and opinions solely. [INTERVIEW] [0:04:54.6] MD: All right everybody, we have a treat today. Also, we have the cutest little wingman in existence ever, assisting with todayÕs episode. IÕm like, IÕm kind of wishing I had my uterus back because heÕs really that cute but like, cool. ThatÕs in medical where you stop somewhere, probably getting analyzed. But anywho, todayÕs guest is none other than a very dear friend who means more to me than I think that she knows. We have Sarah Breshears, who has mentored the daylights out of me, both as an SLP and allowing me to embrace my muchness and other facets of my life. WeÕll do Tarot card readings later. ÒHa-ha-ha, just kidding, but not reallyÓ Any who, and her sweet cousin. Well, technically, niece, and then heÕs technically your nephew. Well, great nephew? Yes. [0:05:55.6] SB: My great nephew. [0:05:56.6] MD: Yeah. [0:05:56.9] SB: Great nephew. [0:05:57.8] MD: I have a great niece and sheÕs six months old and sheÕs got these cheeks that just go for days and you just kind of want to like, bite them but anyway. [0:06:06.7] SB: DonÕt nibble. [0:06:09.4] MD: But yeah, weÕre talking about something that most of us just entertain the notion on but fear and then anxiety hold us back. WeÕre talking about wanting to be an entrepreneur and that word, one is plenty freaking difficult to say. I canÕt tell you how many times I had to practice before we started recording but two, itÕs that you have a need, you identify it and you want to work to fill it, but can you? How do you? ItÕs so overwhelming, and yet, Sarah has done this so many different times in so many different capacities that it truly is awe-inspiring. So, with all the guests, you know, we love a good back story and I know SarahÕs been on here on the past but her back story is incredibly powerful. So, I will pass the preverbal mic over to Sarah and then Savanah, we will grow together. So, hi lady. [0:07:11.5] SB: Hi, thank you for having all three of us. [0:07:18.8] MD: Take me from the top. How in the world did your newest creation? It is Short and Sweet Stories: An Interactive Book for Speech and Language, written by Sarah Breshears MA, CCC, SLP, and illustrated by Savanah Reaser, how did this happen? [0:07:36.2] SB: So, this is the book that I accidentally wrote about a decade ago and was released a little less than a month ago. Yeah, whenever I wrote these stories, they were never supposed to be a book. These were stories that I wrote as a tool for therapy for me to use with my clients. I was a brand new, like, infant SLP in my CF and I was working for the public schools in Nashville and they gave us a hundred dollars for therapy materials for the entire year. And I know, like SLPs throughout our career, we just accumulate like this massive pile of materials and resources to snatch whenever we need something for therapy and as a brand new CF, you donÕt have that. YouÕre literally starting from ground zero and so, I started looking on Pinterest for free, I literally searched free speech therapy materials and I found my way over to Teachers Pay Teachers. And that just opened my eyes to all of the things that you can create and share and all of the things that were available. And talking about an entrepreneur, I think the thing that has made me even think that I could do it made me even like, take the chance on any of my entrepreneurial adventures is just my mom instilled in me that like, ÒYou just figure it out. Nobody got a special handbook or playbook on life. You figure it out.Ó And she didnÕt believe in the word no and if somebody told her no, she was like, ÒOkay, bet.Ó And you just find a way and so, I decided that I was going to start a Teachers Pay Teachers store, which then led to you know, you have to have a blog and you have to have an Instagram and you have to have a Pinterest and all of this stuff to promote it, which then led to my business now and me knowing you, me, even being here today because I know you. And so, through Social Moguls and doing social media for SLP brands, I met the wonderful Jena Castro-Casbon, The Independent Clinician, and I was helping her prep her book launch last March, and I was thinking, ÒYou know, that is something that I need to do.Ó And IÕve always thought that I wanted to write a book but I didnÕt know what it would be and I was like, ÒI want a book because I want passive incomeÓ which joke was on me. Books are not where you get rich, people. [0:10:15.6] MD: No, no theyÕre not, done that. [0:10:21.8] SB: But it just dawned on me, like, you have these stories that you wrote that you never did anything with, other than you know, using them in therapy and they were such a great tool as you know, an SLP that had a caseload of like, 90 kids and has to see five at a time, and you have all of these diverse goals and you know maybe someoneÕs working on past tense and someoneÕs working on art. SomeoneÕs working on ING, and all of these different goals that you have truly, about 20 minutes to work on with five kids and so, thatÕs where the stories came from and through the process of helping Jena launch, I realized, ÒThese need to be out into the world, these need to be a book. ThereÕs so many other SLPs and parents that could benefit from having these. So, letÕs do it.Ó And knew nothing about doing a book. Literally nothing but I knew that I have a wonderful, talented, genius niece, who I just text her, and I said, ÒHey, do you want to do a book together? Do you want to illustrate it?Ó And so, she was like, ÒOkay.Ó So yeah, here we are. I will let her tell you, kind of her experience with it because truly, without her and without her talent and her major dedication to this, it wouldnÕt have ever happened. She genuinely brought the book to life and gave all of the characters that I had written about a decade ago, she gave them life. So, Nana, IÕll let you tell the story. [0:11:53.2] SR: Sure. [0:11:52.2] MD: Can I just interject that my favorite is the cow with the bow? I mean, I love that it's catching dolphins in the background. [0:11:57.7] SR: ItÕs mowing you. [0:11:59.4] MD: I mean, I know but sheÕs just Ð sheÕs adorable but like, I feel like that should be an entire movie about her but sorry Savanah, I was so excited about the cow with the bow. I grew up with cows, we had a pet cow, her name was Ms. Linda. So, weird story but that made me Ð of course, we had a pet cow named Ms. Linda, sheÕs lovely. Hi, Savanah. [0:12:23.3] SR: All right, so I am Savanah. Sarah is my aunt and I donÕt Ð was it a text or was it a Facetime call? Because I was kind of thinking it was a Facetime, it might have been a text [crosstalk 0:12:32.8] [0:12:32.8] SB: And almost every day. [0:12:35.6] SR: Yeah, but yeah, it was kind of like a, ÒOh, that sounds fun but is it ever really going to happen?Ó Like, am I just kind of Ð like, having fun drawing? I think I was probably halfway through the book before it became like, real and it was like, ÒOh, this is going to be a real book. This isnÕt just fun drawings.Ó But I started drawing, I think I was in college doing my interpreting classes and it just was kind of a way to pass the time. A study break and I kind of just picked up a lot of tips and tricks on the way, learned as I went and yeah, so when Sarah sent me the stories, I took it like sentence by sentence and just started drawing and had fun with it and then, like I said, about halfway through, I was like, ÒOh, this is real.Ó Like, this is an actual book coming alive. [0:13:21.7] MD: Wait, those folks donÕt know, but you are an ASL interpreter, correct? [0:13:27.2] SR: Yes. [0:13:27.8] MD: Okay, what all is involved in that training? [0:13:31.6] SR: So, I went to my local community college. Well, I actually, at first, I was kind of I didnÕt know what I wanted to do, like everybody and I just randomly picked Ð what was that? I think it was a physical therapy assistant. I was like, ÒYou know what? IÕll do that, why not?Ó And I actually missed the deadline to apply for the program. So, my academic adviser was like, ÒYou know, do you want to just take some classes in the meantime and just till the deadline rolls back around?Ó And so, I took ASL1 and I absolutely fell in love with it. I knew it was kind of just this like pull that I knew thatÕs what I was supposed to be doing. So, I was going to immediately ditch physical therapy assisting or whatever it was and yeah, switched right over to ASL. So, I did all my ASL classes. I think when I probably was in ASL2 or three is when I took the first interpreting class and then, it kind of just went from there. My internship is where I learned the absolute most, just getting out there and doing it is where you learn, so. [0:14:32.2] MD: My sons go to a private school but itÕs on the Virginia School for the Deaf and the Blind campus. So, one recess each week is with their deaf peers and then, they attend the choir performances for the students that are visually impaired and itÕs really cool. So, weÕve been practicing. So, like Bear, ÒMy name is Bear.Ó You all canÕt see it, IÕm signing, and like, he Ð and Bear has social anxiety, like his mom. And heÕs like, ÒWell, I got up there, and then I just kind of growled.Ó And I was like, ÒOkay buddy.Ó So, like, letÕs regroup and check because we donÕt want to growl at humans, especially the humans that are your age and they canÕt hear you. So, like, letÕs try, letÕs practice but like, heÕs working on it. But like, when I was reading your bios in the book, I was just like, ÒOf course, the need to help communicate runs in your family.Ó I mean, it permeates everything I know about your lovely family and all the times I have met you all vicariously through like, Facetimes or like all the things that just Ð there are so much joy in passion and love there. So, thank you. [0:15:44.9 SB: Yeah, do you want to tell like a little bit about the family dynamic? Because I think whenever people hear niece, they think toddler and whenever I say that my niece has a toddler, theyÕve very confused. So, let me give a little backstory there. So, my sister is SavanahÕs mom and she is 16 years older than me. It was a big surprise for my parents but I like to joke that I turned out to be the best one. Yeah, so, whatever. I was eight, SavanahÕs older brother was born and I became an aunt and so when her bro was 12, Savanah was born. So, she and I are closer in age than me and my sister, her mom, and I feel like God really did me a solid by setting our family up this way, especially knowing that I would lose both of my parents so young because her parents are now the matriarch and patriarch of our family. And her sister has always Ð or her mom, my sister, has always felt kind of like a motherly figure to me and Savanah has always felt really more like a little sister than my niece, hands down, my very best friend and so yeah, our family dynamic is just different but I think that I wouldnÕt trade it for anything in the world and it now Ð knowing like the way that life has played out, IÕm like, ÒOkay God, I see you, I see what you did there.Ó So yeah, thatÕs how I have a niece thatÕs old enough to illustrate a book with me. [0:17:28.2] MD: I mean, I was just thinking, Bear has been writing a book called, Sir Doctor Bubble Butt Versus the World. Sorry, Sir Doctor Bubble Butt is his hamster, out of context that doesnÕt really make sense but like Ð phrasing Michelle but he draws little pictures in his iPad in the pages and heÕs figured out how to do this and I didnÕt know you could draw in an iPad in Microsoft Word. So, that was very exciting. So, he got you allÕs book in the mail and heÕs like, ÒI can publish my book now.Ó And IÕm like, ÒOkay buddy, weÕll work on that.Ó So, he now wants to publish Sir Doctor Bubble Butt Versus the World. Also, a really creepy story he wrote about a vampire, and IÕm like, ÒThe worldÕs not ready for vampire murder mysteries just yet from a tiny human. So, we need to wait a little longer on that one.Ó But okay, this is amazing. So, you created this because you had a need but can you talk about some of the therapeutic approaches or like the science behind it or like, why literacy is important embedding in our sessions or where do you want to go here? ThereÕs like 400 different ways. [0:18:35.9] SB: Yeah. So, like I was saying, whenever I decided to write these stories, it was because I had a massive caseload. I donÕt remember the exact number but it hovered around 80 and as a CF, like, that is just absurd. I know that itÕs all too common but whenever you have such a small window of time to see these kids and you know, you can only see them during certain time periods during the day. And only certain days of the week because they canÕt miss certain activities and they need to be in class for that and you know, our time with them is so limited and so, I ended up having groups of four and five and just having these massively diverse goals for all of them, I found that stories were kind of like the common tool that I could use with everyone. Pretty much any goal that you want to work on, I could do that with a story. But, for my art tick kiddos, I needed stories that were really phoneme-rich with whatever their goal sounds were and so, thatÕs why each story is written and like, heavy on a specific phoneme. So, thereÕs 22 stories and each story is a different phoneme that it targets. [0:19:53.8] MD: Well, Savanah, when you were illustrating it, was there any that you were like, ÒI really likeÉÓ Because itÕs almost like alliteration. I love alliteration, I think itÕs fantastic but, was there any that you were like, ÒThis one is meaningful as an interpreter, as well as, as a mom?Ó [0:20:12.3] SR: Let me think about that. I donÕt know. [0:20:14.0] SB: Does Miller have any favorites? [0:20:16.3] SR: Miller has all the favorites. We have read it through probably seven, eight times by now. Like, completely cover to cover, we have read it through and he Ð IÕll try to turn the page and like, read the next page. HeÕll flip it back and point, he likes to point out the characters and look at the pictures, he loves it. We have read it so many times, itÕs become a favorite for sure. [0:20:41.4] SB: I love that, and I think that was when deciding to make it a book, that was the exact scenario that I was thinking of outside of you know, not only SLPs can use this, like, reading is such a bonding experience for parents and their children and that was one thing that growing up mom read to all of us and I feel like all the time like, we were constantly reading and her doing that, always having a book in our hands, made us all love reading. And that love of reading has taught me more than my master's program, than all seven years I spent in college, than anything else that IÕve ever done, having a love for reading has given me so much more knowledge, and I feel like itÕs like the ultimate, like, life hack. Anything that you want to learn, itÕs out there. Just go find a book and start reading and then put it into play and learn from the experience but those books gave you that foundational knowledge. And I think, like that bonding experience of reading with your mom instills, and Michelle, I know you do this with the boys too and your boys love to read, that will take you so much further than a lot of things that you know, we do in childhood and I love that Miller loves it, especially just knowing that like, you guys get to share that and that thatÕs something that heÕll grow up with and know that like, thatÕs part of your legacy now. [0:22:09.4] MD: Keeping up with you on good reads is impossible. You have so many books that you accomplish each year and I really like graphic novels because theyÕre just Ð itÕs light and itÕs fun and it breaks up the monotony of like, the technical one reads that I have but folks, if youÕre listening, I highly recommend that you check out the book, Tales from The Kitty Litter. ItÕs a parenting graphic novel and itÕs freaking hysterical. Also, if you catch your nine-year-old and 11-year-old reading it, youÕve been warned, itÕs not always child appropriate but they read it and theyÕre like, ÒMom, is this what itÕs really like?Ó And IÕm like, ÒYup, thatÕs what itÕs like.Ó I mean, cartoon cat form but like, thatÕs what itÕs like. So, youÕre right and I think back about some of the research with embedding speech therapy, strategies, especially phonological impairments in the literacy format. And doing it outside of just therapy and there is a ton to support. Dr. Kelly Farquharson, she was the ASHA Convention SLP Chair this past November and she just got our ASHA Fellow. One of her recent publications, the tail end of last year was on the value of training para pros and joint reading tasks and how, if we teach not just the teacher and not just as a therapist use it but even if we teach and train the para pros that spend the most time with some of our more medically complex patients, the children acquire the strategies. Whether it be literacy acquisitions, speech sounders, like, theyÕre acquiring it in a faster rate because itÕs another person thatÕs buying into the value of those shared moments like what you talk about. We didnÕt cover that. WeÕre trying to figure out schedules to do an episode just on that research but itÕs profound. Also, I found out, sheÕs the editor for the language speech and hearing science in the schools which is like, a big to do. But I mean, you all, the resources on this. So, get a book, read it. I also love No, David. This made me think of No, David because some of the naughty Ð have you all read No, David? SavanahÕs like, ÒYesÓ, the No, David Christmas one? [0:24:27.8] SR: Yes, you never read it through? [0:24:30.1] SB: I donÕt think I have. [0:24:31.2] SR: If you saw the cover, you would at least like recognize the book, for sure. [0:24:35.2] SB: Maybe SchittÕs Creek is just like infiltrating my thoughts whenever I think of David because you said No, David and I heard, ÒOoh, David.Ó [0:24:47.2] MD: Okay, I havenÕt watched SchittÕs Creek yet, is it really that good? [0:24:51.1] SB: Oh, itÕs so good. ItÕs like if you need just like a feel-good, funny kind of light-hearted show, itÕs so good. [0:24:59.7] SR: Yeah, thatÕs the show whenever I went into labor, I was like, ÒTurn that show on.Ó Because itÕs just happy, light-hearted, gets the oxytocin running, that is the show. [0:25:15.4] MD: You say oxytocin running and then my CLC brain goes, ÒOh, thatÕs where we latch and that does that.Ó Okay, also, also, can I just say, and I don't know why this is in my heart lately but I had a different person reach out and they were asking breastfeeding questions and I gave the advice that I wish had been given to me. If a caregiver is breastfeeding or chest feeding and they enjoyed their areolas being addressed in a certain situation and then you go to breastfeed, it makes your brain switch because the oxytocin doesnÕt Ð I mean, it comes but itÕs to like, a different method and nobody talks about that. Nobody gives new lactating mothers so that itÕs okay to be like, ÒHey, yesterday was nipple foreplay and today, itÕs breastfeeding.Ó And thatÕs okay to give your mind time to reset about that but I asked like when I was you know, and IÕm a CLC but at the time, I was not and my CLC came in when I had Bear and Goose. And it was Goose and he was the first and I was trying to explain it, she was like, ÒThatÕs inappropriate.Ó And she like, shanked me on it and I was just, ÒNo. Yes.Ó And that moment of shame is what me then seek out, ÒHow do I set another caregiver up for success and not do this?Ó And that was one of the factors into me getting a CLC, which is connected because of like, to me, thatÕs growing my skillset. ThatÕs being an entrepreneur, IÕm growing what I can offer but your book came from a moment of need and my CLC came from a moment of shame and nobody should feel shame about how their body feels. So, who knew we would talk about nipple foreplay in a book today? ThatÕs great. IÕm not quite sure how. [0:26:59.3] SB: You know, not surprised though, Michelle. Not surprised. [0:27:05.1] MD: Chris is going to die when he hears this. Okay, back to the topic at hand. Okay, so talk to me more about, did you have an Òaha momentÓ when you were doing this with your patients or your clients in the schools where youÕre like, ÒThis is really beneficial, this is where itÕs at for this child.Ó [0:27:25.5] SB: I feel like with groups Ð well, I feel like with students in general, thereÕs always the like, ÒAre we going to play a game? Can we play Candy Land? Can we do this, can we do Pop-up Pirate?Ó Like Ð [0:27:35.1] MD: I love Pop-up Pirate. [0:27:37.6] SB: Well, Candy Land is my jam. Like, I still love Candy Land and I feel like I just aged myself by saying Candy Land is my jam but I donÕt care, I still love it. But it was whenever they would get maybe not quite as excited but they would get excited for our stories and then whenever I would send these stories home, whenever I was in private practice and I was seeing PeteÕs, and I would send these stories home. And then moms or dads would tell me, ÒYeah, like, we read this together every night or we read this together four times on Sunday.Ó And like, I think obviously, this started as a speech therapy tool but I think like the coolest part of it for me is seeing those like, bonding experiences that it creates and when weÕre learning in that environment like, we feel safe. We feel secure, you donÕt have a better learning environment than that. And I was reading some research preparing for this talk and one of the things that have seen through functional MRI is that during maternal shared reading time, itÕs positively correlated with brain activation in areas of language, executive function, and social-emotional processing in like preschool, early elementary children and so itÕs not just like, the words on the pages. ItÕs the experience of reading them and having, you know, the talk that like, surrounds reading. Like, the discussion and expansion that parents and speech therapists give. Like, that is where the real growth happens and so like, these stories were written as a therapy tool but I think that they are truly like, so much more than that because of the experiences that they create, which then leads to greater gains in language and speech, which is you know, why we started but it is Ð it has like, grown into something that I never anticipated. [0:29:39.5] MD: Erin always quotes the number. If she was here, she could do it off the top of her head but if you learn something through a context of play during child-led, I think itÕs like so many iterations but if you have to learn it through like, structured, formal, unpleasant repetition, itÕs like, several hundred more and that to me, you hit at the heart of it. Like, that MRI is showing the ÒwhyÓ because weÕre in a safe space. But we can also fall back on, and I know I talk about it all the time but the MaslowÕs Scale of Hierarchical Need. If our foundation isnÕt set, if we donÕt feel secure, then we ourselves are not ready to grow and learn. Honestly, I take my DIR course tomorrow night. I finally signed up for the DIR course and I have wanted to take this course for so many years but I wasnÕt in a place because we had to move, we had this, I had so many other projects going on. I wasnÕt in a place to have that part of my brain and cup filled. I had to get to my safe space for learning. I should read the book but I mean, weÕre proof of that. Like, when you have the course that you want to take when you have the task that you want to do but you have to be there. Yeah, this is profound, and this is lovely and I want to Ð IÕm holding it up, nobody can see it but I know that this is a video call. So, sheÕs going to save that call for later but this is Ð it truly is wonderful and folks can find this because I want to ask all the other entrepreneurial questions but I want to be respectful of our times. So, if folks are Ð [0:31:25.6] SB: Yeah. [0:31:25.7] MD: Interested in checking out Short and Sweet Stories, where do they find it? [0:31:30.5] SB: So, you can go to shortandsweetstories.com and find all the info about the book as well as the link to buy it and then thereÕs also going to be, hopefully, in the next month, these will be done, some free downloads both for parents and for SLPs. Just about like, the best ways to use these stories as a tool for your children, as well as like, some milestone information for parents too. And if you want to skip all of that and go straight to Òadd to cartÓ you can find us on Amazon. ItÕs also on barnesandnoble.com. On Amazon, you can get the paperback, Kindle, or hardback, and the paperback, like, they all have the same content but the paperback will save you a little money, just FYI. [0:32:16.4] MD: I want the hard back. I love the hardback, and then next time I hug you, you have to sign it for me because this is like Ð yes, but itÕs going on my bookcase. IÕll let the students loan it out but they have to bring it right back. See? Okay, can I request that next round of entrepreneurial being flashcards based off of your characters? [0:32:40.8] SB: Ooh, off of the stories? So, weÕve actually talked about getting like, and if anyone listening has like, the hookup or knows how to do this, please DM me. We want to make stuffed animals out of the characters. So, like, Ms. Molly Moo, your cow with the bow, like Ð [0:32:57.0] MD: Yes. [0:32:57.4] SB: She would be like Ð so then, you can like use those as youÕre reading the story but I hadnÕt thought about flash cards. [0:33:04.0] MD: IÕm just saying, you can do both but I really Ð I know, but I really love the idea of like Ð or like, little felt puppets. You guys, this is how youÕre an entrepreneur SLP, youÕre like, ÒOh, I like this, we could do this.Ó And then, 14 rabbit holes later, Alice, we have Ð [0:33:27.4] SB: No, truly, that is how it happens. That is how Ð I feel like, anytime you and I get together, itÕs like, all the rabbit holes but thereÕs so many ideas that come out of it and thatÕs literally where it starts as somebody says, ÒOh, this would be coolÓ And then you decide, ÒOkay, IÕm going to do it, IÕm going to find a way,Ó I have said for a long time that like, my social media business was built on audacity. I had the audacity to believe that I could. I had the audacity to believe that I could create something out of thin air and I said, ÒYes, letÕs do it.Ó And then I figured it out. Like itÕs jumping and weaving your parachute on the way down. I feel like that is like the heart of being an entrepreneur but it all starts with conversations like this one. [0:34:13.2] MD: So, it is very overwhelming if you sit back on the other side of having worn so many hats and look at it in retrospect, right? Because youÕre like, ÒWell, how did that happen?Ó And youÕre like, ÒWell, one thing led to this and it led to this and it led to this.Ó But if you are in graduate school right now and youÕre like, ÒI have this ideaÓ or ÒIÕm frustratedÓ or ÒI paid all this money, I donÕt want to be a clinician every day for the rest of my life.Ó There are so many different ways to broaden your horizons and not feel that your only career option is just to be an SLP. I have a friend who does fashion influencing on the side and IÕm like, ÒHow is that a thing as an SLP?Ó And sheÕs loving it and thriving and because of her, I bought a lot of face products, which I didnÕt ever anticipate that I would because apparently, fashion and face go together. So, I now own the rollie thing that you Ð the pink marble-y Ð I donÕt know what it does but it feels really good on my face in the morning, so I am going to roll it. I donÕt know if itÕs actually making a difference but thatÕs because Sarah Greer, youÕre a terrible influence. Yes, itÕs a new flow but I think itÕs making my cheeks [inaudible 0:35:30.6] I was influenced but can you take us through your journey as an entrepreneur? Where did it began and then what relatable actionable steps along the way could somebody tune in and say, ÒOkay, I need to consider doing that.Ó [0:35:47.2] SB: So, I feel like Ð and so I feel like you have kind of experienced this too, like whenever you grow up with parents who are self-employed, who have built their own business even if itÕs like a party of one, a business of one. I saw the flexibility that my parents had because my dad was a carpenter and my mom cleaned houses and then she owned a daycare actually with SavanahÕs mom, my sister, for a while. But they always worked for themselves and I saw the autonomy and the flexibility that they had and I mean, this was never ever what I thought I was going to do. Like, I was going to be an acute SLP forever. That was my plan but life happened and I think that I was, I was craving that flexibility. Whenever I decided to start Social Moguls, it was during Christmas break of 2020 and I had gone home for Christmas, and Savanah and I were talking about it. And I was just like, to the point that I felt like, IÕm never going to be able to pay off my student loans working in a clinical role. I donÕt want someone else to tell me when I can come home and see my family and when I have to be in a building doing X, Y, Z, and I donÕt want someone dictating how I see my kids, like telling me what I can and canÕt do in therapy and who can and canÕt qualify for therapy. Like, absolutely not. I have always been way too Ð my mom called me bossy but maybe itÕs bossy, maybe itÕs independent, I donÕt know. I just Ð [0:37:28.0] MD: Demonstrating leadership skills. [0:37:29.1] SB: I think it is Ð yes. [0:37:30.4] MD: ThatÕs what that is. [0:37:32.1] SB: Yes, I always had great leadership skills but I feel like Savanah, you have that flexibility in your job now and I feel like we just were raised that Ð like we wanted more, more freedom and more control over our lives and so, yeah. [0:37:54.4] SR: ThatÕs why I was thinking all the memories while youÕre saying all of this but I remember being in elementary school and the, like smallest little, not truly important little awards ceremonies or you get a certificate for As and Bs or whatever, my mother and my granny were there, SarahÕs mom and SarahÕs sister, my mom, my grandmother were there, every single one because they had the flexibility because they were self-employed. So, that was always important to me growing up. It was amazing always having somebody there and so I knew I wanted that as well. IÕm the kind of woman, IÕve always known I wanted to be a mom. So, I knew when the day comes, when I have kids, I want to be there. I want to do something where I cannot go to work and go and do for my son if I need to and being an interpreter, right now, I am working mostly in college class. Like, college classes interpreting but when you do freelance interpreting, you can kind of pick and choose like, ÒNo, that time doesnÕt work for me, so I wonÕt pick up that job.Ó IÕll pick a different job and my work really affords me that, so. [0:39:06.6] SB: Yeah, I think we just had that example set, and thatÕs kind of the president but as far as actionable things Ð [0:39:16.1] MD: Wait, can you explain what Social Mogul is for those that donÕt know about it? [0:39:21.1] SB: Yeah. So, through my experience with promoting short and sweet speech, my teachers, paid teachers store the blog. All of that that goes with that brand, I learned social media and I took a really big interest in it and I think truly just because it was fun. It was fun to me just like experiment and see like, ÒOkay, well, letÕs create this kind of content and see what happens.Ó And you could see it really resonate with people and you get people in the comments saying, ÒThank you for saying this. I have felt like this forever and reading it on your page makes me feel seen and makes me feel like IÕm not alone in this.Ó Or making people laugh with a funny meme and then be like, ÒOh my God, I needed this today. Thank you for sharing this.Ó Like, that connection is so cool. But experimenting with content and seeing what works, what doesnÕt, and what that return engagement looks like whenever you create different types. It was a lot of trial and error and I found it really interesting and so like the little nerd that I am, I started researching it and reading up on it and taking courses on it and so I just really learned how social media works and like how you build community and not just followers. And so, other people started noticing and so I was asked to help with social media for other people and I actually got to run the social media part of a cynic campaign for the SLP that was my [inaudible 0:40:58.9] in grad school. [0:41:00.6] MD: Nice. [0:41:02.1] SB: It was so cool. I like flew home because she was running for senate in Oklahoma, I flew home and like ran to the polls to get the results as soon as they closed and I kind of felt like I was a little like Olivia in scandal. I felt very, I donÕt know, you know? It was cool that I got to be a part of the political world for a minute, totally not my world but anyways, all of that to say that all of that experience led to me starting a social media marketing agency for healthcare brands. So, we primarily work with SLPs, so private practices that are SLP-owned or brands that market to SLPs. That also was not my intention when I very first started, I was like, ÒI want to do this for Airbnbs because then IÕll get free stays when I travel.Ó But I found out that it, like, also is very aligned for me to work with SLPs because I feel like one of the major things that led to me feeling so burnt out and led to me not wanting to work clinically. And feeling like I canÕt do this forever was feeling like no one freaking knows what we do. No one understands the true value of the work that we do and feeling like every day in rounds it was a different doctor who didnÕt understand why they should be referring to SLPs, who didnÕt understand that like a nursing bedside screen is not the same thing as an SLP swallow eval, that you canÕt determine aspiration at bedside. Like, all of these things that we just freaking bang our heads into all the time, those were so frustrating to me. That was a part of what led to me not wanting to work clinically but now, through Social Moguls, itÕs like someone gave me the biggest megaphone that they could find and I get to just shout it from the rooftops how badass the work that we do really is and how much change we really make for patients. And the options that are available for SLPs to continue learning so that we can continue improving so that more people will know about the awesome work that we do, more patients will be reached, and I never expected that but that is hands down the coolest part of what I get to do through social media through Social Moguls and now, we have a team of I think seven and six of them are SLPs, who work for me. And getting to create these like nontraditional, nonclinical roles for other SLPs has also been really, really freaking cool and something that I didnÕt think I would find immense joy in but I feel extremely honored that I get to do that. [0:43:53.1] MD: You may get less fearful, which folks, I can put on a really, really good front but I am self-deprecating humor at its finest but like my social anxiety, my anxiety in general is like a lot at times and I want to do something and thereÕs that song, Fear is a Liar, itÕs a Christian song. Oh, I canÕt remember who sings it but thereÕs the song Fear is a Liar, and damn it, it holds me back and it makes me pause. ÒCan I do this? Should we do this?Ó Like, I want to create an SLP is a fifth caucus because I think if we truly embrace all cultures, then we should honor and accept all the different faiths because our boys have been very fortunate to go to and then in South Carolina, they went to a Mandarin immersion school and then here in Virginia, the private school that we go to, we celebrated Kwanzaa. We celebrated Diwali, like, the festival of lights because one of the assistant principals is from India and they have church on Wednesday mornings. We have a Wednesday service at like the little school but like thatÕs Episcopalian but itÕs just I sit back and think about when we go and weÕre doing therapy and the diversity and the patients that weÕre seeing a huge part of their culture Ð my grandfather clock supports this, is their faith. So, like Ð [0:45:22.8] SB: Yeah. [0:45:23.5] MD: If I am going to honor and acknowledge their faith and my faith, I donÕt have to adhere to it but I mean, I can still honor and acknowledge it, and thatÕs something that I mean, as many caucuses we have professionally, I would love to have that embedded within and it doesnÕt have to be SLPs of faith because there are ideologist but like, you make me feel like that dream is possible because then I think about utilizing that as a social media platform to talk about this high holiday is coming up. And hereÕs potential language and words that your patients, your clients may, or customs, or from like a feeding dysphagia perspective. This could be a food that they need to adhere to or abstain from because I mean, I have a lot of friends that are Catholic, thereÕs a lot of fish. Ooh, IÕm still reading the book on Salt because itÕs just taking a minute to get through but itÕs Salt, the history of the world told through salt, which makes me intrinsically really hungry reading this because they also give recipes over the ages. Like, did you know ketchup used to be made with sardines and not tomatoes? EverybodyÕs face just cringed. The first ketchup was called ÒcatsupÓ and it was made with squished sardine goo. It was like all the rave. This makes Tina cringe. I know IÕm nerved but like thatÕs fascinating and then in the early 1800s, somebody in New Jersey put a tomato in it with sardines and then they fazed the sardines out because it turns out, tomato-based ketchup sells more than sardine-based. Who knew? But like, somehow there was a point Ð this was a really long tangent and I forgot the original point but social media for SLPs of faith but you make that feel possible. I swear somehow that connected but I mean, yeah. [0:47:18.4] SB: IÕm with you. IÕm following the loop back around. [0:47:22.3] MD: Okay, but like that leap of faith, no pun intended, pun intended, taking the steps like, what did you do to step out and find your entrepreneurial self? How did you grow yourself and what resources did you like study? [0:47:38.1] SB: Honestly, like most of it was trial and error. Even this book, this book was very much trial and error but one little tidbit that we learned the freaking hard way is if youÕre going to write a book, if you are going to draw all of these beautiful illustrations for a book, look at the publisher that youÕre using and they have templates for the specific sizes that your pages should be. [0:48:04.0] MD: Oh, Savanah. [0:48:05.5] SR: And pay attention to your color profile. [0:48:08.3] SB: Yeah, yeah. [0:48:10.2] MD: What? [0:48:10.5] SR: Right? [0:48:11.8] MD: WhatÕs a color profile? [0:48:13.9] SR: I still donÕt entirely know but Sarah saved it. I still donÕt know but Sarah managed to save it. [0:48:19.8] SB: So, the colors that you see on your computer screen, thereÕs a much wider array of colors that can be displayed digitally than what can be printed on paper or a t-shirt or whatever. So, RGB is what you see on your screen. ItÕs like the Ð I donÕt know, I guess they call it a color profile but itÕs basically like the prism of colors that you have to choose from but whenever you decide that you want to print something, you have to produce that in CMYK. And it stands Ð I canÕt remember what it stands for. RGB is like red, green, blue, and then CMYK is like, I canÕt remember the colors but itÕs a different color profile and so whenever you have something that you have drawn in RGB and you have all of these colors that donÕt exists when you print them in CMYK, your color looks totally different. So, the book actually on screen, like if you have the Kindle version, itÕs a lot more vibrant, or actually, I donÕt know if the Kindle version is CMYK. But the book on SavanahÕs iPad where she drew it is a lot more vibrant than what it printed and that was just something that we didnÕt know until we go to upload it and weÕre like, ÒOh.Ó So, we have to convert 180 pages. [0:49:40.8] MD: Holy crap. [0:49:41.7] SR: There were tears. There were a few tears, IÕm not going to lie. [0:49:46.1] SB: There were a couple of times that we were both just like manically laughing because we were like, ÒYouÕve got to be kidding me? Another one?Ó Like, another total revamp and like the whole resizing it. So, we were thinking, ÒOkay, weÕre going to do an eight-by-eight book.Ó Well, whenever you do an eight-by-eight book, you actually have to create like an 8.25 by 8.12 Ð I donÕt know. ItÕs like different dimensions, so youÕre not actually drawing square pages but thatÕs what we did and so, whenever we go to put all of this together and upload it to the publisher, we were like, ÒOh, yeah, we did this wrong.Ó Then like, whenever you go to stretch the images, like the dedication page where we dedicated it to Mom. I think Savanah drew that four or five times. [0:50:40.4] SR: In one night. In one night because it was like, ÒWe got to get it done.Ó Like, weÕve been working on this for so long, weÕre excited, weÕre in the home stretch, we got to get it done. It was in one night I redrew it. I think four, I think it was four times by the end. [0:50:54.2] SB: Yeah, because it was like, she would draw it and then I would take it and upload it and it would give us an error message and IÕd be like, ÒNo, we got to change this.Ó But the only way to fix it was by redrawing it and so, it really was like just going for it and like just trying it and those are things we maybe could have prevented if we werenÕt such a quick start and we did a little more fact-finding before we jumped in. But I mean, I feel like with starting in teachers, paid teachers store, I just went for it. I just started, Theresa Richard taught me. She was one of my very first paying clients for social media and she taught me ABC, action breeds clarity, and if you take nothing else away Ð [0:51:42.5] MD: ThatÕs big. [0:51:44.0] SB: Yeah, and thatÕs truly like, whenever I talk about having the audacity, I just started. I just said, ÒOkay, IÕm doing this and whatÕs the next thing? WhatÕs the first thing that I needed to do to do this?Ó And it was like, ÒOkay, we have to pick a company name. Okay, whatÕs next? We have to pick brand colors. Okay, we need to set up and Instagram. Okay, we need to start reaching out and telling people.Ó You have to tell people that you are doing it, which is scary as heck. Actually, whenever I message Theresa, I sent her a voice message on Instagram and I think I recorded it like six times before I actually sent it because thatÕs scary. Like saying, ÒIÕm doing this.Ó And I deserve to have a spot in the arena. I deserve to have a spot at this table, I have what it takes to do this. ThatÕs scary and the only way to do it is to just do it. And if you will take that first step, you will get clarity on the second step, which that second step will give you clarity on what the third step should be and you just have to move and sometimes, youÕre going to move in the wrong direction and itÕs okay. I donÕt believe in wrong turns, itÕs just a redirection and it shows you which way you should go but truly, action breeds clarity. So, whatever it is that you have an idea for. And that is one of the cool things that I get to do now too is I do coaching one-on-one for other entrepreneurs and I kind of get to see these ideas before they come to fruition. I get to see these courses whenever theyÕre just a thought in someoneÕs mind, and I get to give them a little bit more clarity as they take action but itÕs really cool to see thereÕs so much brewing in our field right now. I was talking with Kevin Simmons, The Singing SLP. I was talking with him the other day about how our field, in a lot of ways, we are not diverse at all but I think the businesses that are blooming in our field, thereÕs more variety. ThereÕs more people doing more things, just different things than ever before. More people are starting stores of their own, theyÕre creating resources, theyÕre doing coaching. TheyÕre doing mentorship, theyÕre offering all of these different things and finding ways to still show up as an SLP but non-clinically, and all of them, I donÕt know all of them, but I know that all of them to do it, you have to take that first step and figure it out as you go and endless coaching. If you need help with marketing, IÕm your gal. If you need help with other pieces of it, thereÕs someone who could help you with it. Like, youÕre never going to feel ready and you can enlist the help of Ð actually, IÕm writing a post about this right now like you can come to me for social media. You can go to my friend Bailey if youÕre branding. You can go to Lauren for a website. You can go to Jenna for private practice coaching. You can find all of these people that can help you but no one can take that first step for you and if you wait to feel ready, youÕre never going to do it. Feeling ready is not a thing. [0:54:57.1] MD: No, itÕs not. [0:54:58.4] SB: ItÕs BS. [0:54:59.4] MD: Yes. Okay, so thereÕs a quote by Teddy Roosevelt. ItÕs called, The Man in the Arena. Have you heard that? [0:55:07.4] SB: I feel like I have. [0:55:08.8] MD: ItÕs at the beginning of my book. ItÕs I got writerÕs block and fear and just froze and I wasnÕt going to do it and I was done and IÕm done and Christian, made me sit down and he made me watch one of Brene BrownÕs TED Talks where she quotes it and he goes, ÒOh, I love this man.Ó And itÕs three AM, crawled up next to him in bed sobbing, just ugly crying. ThereÕs no way I can finish this. Who, why did I think that I could? And we watched the video together and I was like, ÒThatÕs it. ThatÕs the quote.Ó So, you all, this quote, do you want to read it? [0:55:41.3] SB: Yeah. ÒIt is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how strong the man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred with dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who airs, who comes short again and again, who spins himself in a worthy cause who at best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither no victory nor defeat.Ó Ah, that is the most Brene Brown quote, which her TED Talk is amazing, and if you need a pep talk to get you off your butt and in the area like sheÕs the one. [0:56:30.8] MD: That inspiration to want to do it, you are 100% correct. Also, Erin and I opened a boutique because she said, ÒLetÕs make shirts.Ó And I was like, ÒCool.Ó Did we give any thought into it other than the fact that I could have a colon on a sweatshirt? No, but I have a colon on a sweatshirt and that makes me really happy but it turns out, after you make a boutique with colons on sweatshirts, youÕre supposed to advertise it. So, like, dun-dun-dun, I was like, ÒWeÕll just Ð yeah.Ó So, folks, when youÕre being an entrepreneur and you do the first thing, reach out for guidance on the second thing, and on that note, I may or may not have an appointment with Sarah tomorrow morning at 10:00 in the morning because you know what? [inaudible 0:57:19.6] to me guidance when you are dancing around that arena. ItÕs okay, nobody says the man in the arena is a solo. It could be a tag team effort. [0:57:30.5] SB: The same way that we were talking about books and how you can learn anything that you want to from a book. Books are a way that you can gain knowledge without experience, right? Well, the same can be said for mentorship and coaching. You are leaning on the knowledge and experience of that person that is mentoring you and I feel like, reading and mentorship, theyÕre both two forms of learning. But that is like, the ultimate hack. That is the ultimate cheat code basically because youÕre skipping the roadblocks, youÕre avoiding those wrong turns, youÕre avoiding the detours because you have someone elseÕs experience that you can draw on and that you can use that to guide you. [0:58:10.3] MD: Yeah, and I am too auditory about the quantity, I want the quality if that makes sense. I would rather save up to buy the fancy salt than get the cheap salt. It makes sense if you read the book Salt, out of context again, it doesnÕt really make sense but itÕs one of those things but if you were truly branching out and creating your own as an entrepreneurial, then take the time to grow yourself and seek the council of elders. Seek their wisdom, itÕs okay to admit that you donÕt know it now but then go to the one that does. [0:58:48.4] SB: Yep. [0:58:49.2] MD: Ladies, you all are phenomenal. Is there any closing wisdom that you have or final thoughts? [0:58:55.3] SR: I donÕt know. I really Ð when you were talking earlier about just getting out there and doing it, I again, the moon, raise or flowing but I was thinking about when we had that first Facetime call and IÕm like, ÒOkay. Well, what size is it going to be? Where are the words going to go on the page?Ó Because deep down, it was like, ÒI cannot do this. I am not an artist, this is not me. I cannot do this.Ó And so IÕm like, ÒI donÕt even know where to start, I donÕt know what to think.Ó I am asking 50,000 questions and every time Sarah would just say, ÒJust start drawing. Just read the stories and draw the pictures. Just start drawing.Ó And IÕm like, ÒI donÕt know. I donÕt know how to do this. I donÕt know what IÕm doing.Ó ÒJust start drawing, just read the stories, and start drawing the pictures and it will be okay.Ó And it was. I am so over the moon with the end product. I could not be happier with it. [0:59:45.1] MD: Because you did it. [0:59:46.1] SR: Yes, I donÕt know how. I really donÕt. I still couldnÕt tell you but we did it. [0:59:50.0] SB: She spent a lot of all-nighters and whenever you started drawing, Miller was six months old. So, having an infant I truly have to give her all of the credit because this book would have never happened without her and she spent so much time and energy, even while being a brand-new mom and dealing with all of that brings. I think you said it best, you just start, just start drawing. [1:00:16.5] MD: How old is Miller now? [1:00:18.3] SR: He is 15 months right now. WeÕre in the on RE stage, today, especially. He is sweet like 95% of the time. HeÕs my little Sour Patch Kid, he really is. HeÕll give you a whop right on your forehead and then lean in and give you a kiss. Like, immediately, just a switch but he is the sweetest little kid ever, heÕs the best. [1:00:46.0] MD: ThatÕs also boy mom life. Hold tight, because youÕre going to have to repaint the trim in the bathroom when youÕre done potty training. They donÕt write that in the mom books. IÕve read the mom books and on the other side of two boys and two tallywhackers, itÕs Ð Oh, wait no, the best was, over Christmas break, I was putting my face on. ItÕs what I say when I throw my makeup on and Goose, my 11-year-old comes in and he knocks on the door. He goes, ÒMom, I have a question to ask you.Ó And IÕm like, ÒOkay Bobby, what is it?Ó And he goes, ÒWhat does a Tooty-Ta look like? Does it kind of look like a little butt but in the front?Ó And I was like, ÒYes, but itÕs furry.Ó And so, so what? Because I didnÕt know what to say. I mean. I was throwing my makeup on. I mean, I was like, completely dressed, everything was fine but I was just like, ÒWhat do you say when your 11-year-old son asks you what a Totty-Ta looks like?Ó And so like, these are the things that are not in the mom books and so like, yes, and folks, we call it tooty-ta and a tallywhacker because thatÕs how I was raised, you know? So, mom books, enjoy them with your tiny humans and life is Ð [1:01:49.1] SB: Oh, my gosh. [1:01:51.5] SR: I just know thereÕs more to it than that. ThereÕs always more than whatÕs in the parenting books. [1:01:56.5] MD: Yes, yes. [1:01:57.5] SB: ThatÕs what we should do next, probably like a real-life parenting book because the other ones, they donÕt mean muster. I told you, IÕm starting a podcast called ÒThe Shit No One Tells You.Ó And I feel like this is very much the shit no one tells you about being a boy mom. [1:02:14.2] SR: You can have Michelle and I on for an episode. [1:02:17.5] MD: Yes, [1:02:17.9] SB: Yeah. [1:02:21.1] MD: I call dibs on the, you know what that no one tells you for breastfeeding and boy raising. [1:02:26.0] SB: I feel like those are the conversations that need to be had. So, itÕs what weÕre going to do. [1:02:31.2] MD: ThatÕs brilliant but see, here you are, entrepreneuring again. Is that a word? Entrepreneuring? Well, ladies, thank you so very much. At the end, I always ask, if one, folks want to reach you, where can they find you, and two, if somebody listening has a little bit of love money left over at the end of the month, where could they donate it to? [1:02:53.2] SB: You can find all the book info on shortandsweetstories.com. On Instagram, I am two places, you can find me @shortandsweetspeech or @social.moguls for all social media things. Savanah, do you want to give your Instagram? [1:03:11.3] SR: I donÕt even know my Instagram, oh my goodness, let me look, hold on. [1:03:14.2] SB: She is @savv.reas Ð [1:03:20.4] SR: No, REASER, itÕs my full last name. [1:03:22.4] SB: Oh, itÕs Reaser. [1:03:24.5] SR: Sarah got all the social media genes, if thatÕs a thing, I do not. I am awful but Ð [1:03:30.3] MD: Okay wait, say it one more time, itÕs @sav Ð [1:03:33.0] SR: Savv.reaser. [1:03:37.0] MD: And then, a place to donate. Maybe your local library. I think that that would probably be a good place. Your local library and maybe while you're there, tell them about the book and that they should get a copy. IÕm just thinking, IÕm just going to go take Statton Library copies to folks. For Stan Virginia, you go downtown and thereÕs a copy of the book, I donated it. [1:04:03.7] SR: I love that. [1:04:06.5] MD: So, thank you all for coming on, and thank you for sharing your energies and your joys with the world on so many fronts. So, yes. Okay, folks, check us out on First Bite Podcast, on Ð that will end up on Instagram and Facebook and you can check Erin out @erinforwardslp. There might be a dot in her Instagram handle and mineÕs, @michelledawsonslp. To be fair, mine is mostly pictures of food, dog, and mischief adventures with my children. So, not the most SLP content heavy but like, things that make me happy. There is a park here where we go see the ducks, thereÕs lots of duck pictures now coming but you know, Goose and Bear and some ducks but everybody, thank you for tuning in. [END OF INTERVIEW] [1:04:52.0] MD: Thank you for joining us for todayÕs course. To complete the course, you must log into your account and complete the quiz and the survey. If you have indicated that you are part of the ASHA Registry and entered both your ASHA number and a complete mailing address in your account profile, prior to course completion, we will submit earned CEUs to ASHA. Please allow one to two months from the completion date for your CEUS to reflect on ASHA transcript. Please note that if this information is missing, we cannot submit to ASHA on your behalf. 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