00:00.00 sidekqpodcast Hello and welcome to another exciting episode of sidekicks and side quests the best unofficial doess and dragons podcast in my humbly biased opinion I've got a wonderful guest for you lined up. I have a wonderful guest lined up for you this week but before we get to my mystery contestant you know I got to do it the first ad read from plus 1 xp Tony Vicin is the mastermind behind this master craft of beard balms game design community building a whole shebang. He's got beard bombs named after all the basic stats from d and d so if you get yourself a can you can apply it to your face and smell the sweet a roman the sweet victory that comes along with increased strength dexterity charisma and more beards and beyond is the indie rpg that help to launch this entire brand but Tony has worked on. Several other games including repugnant eye toaster down. We go through the void vamp nogula and brandstanding. 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Great because I'm trying to get back into dming and ah that will come up a little bit later. But yeah, so this has been a great resource. 02:52.48 sidekqpodcast Awesome! Well I'm glad to hear that that is the aim that I strive for is to make this a very resource ah Centric sort of a show that there's lots of good valuable knowledge here that everyone can use. 03:09.15 sidekqpodcast Awesome! Well continuing all of our questions a pretty easy one but do currently or have you ever played D and D before. 03:16.80 Kevin Yeah, and so this requires a little bit of explanation. So while I was in high school I played in three point five and a little bit of 4 but I ended up not liking it and selling all my books and. 03:31.49 sidekqpodcast Um. 03:34.00 Kevin Then college came and I just kind of took like a 10 year hiatus mostly because I was too busy or I didn't really find people who um, who wanted to play and strangely like I didn't think it would be I'd be able to play for a long time because i. 03:43.98 sidekqpodcast So. 03:51.96 Kevin Got married and had kids. But then um I thought about maybe I'll introduce my 5 year old and now he's six so we started playing old school essentials which is a ah clone of ah d and d basic from the 1980 s so it's really simple. So. 04:05.59 sidekqpodcast M. 04:09.66 Kevin My six year old can understand it and we actually play way more d and d than I ever did back in the day. 04:13.16 sidekqpodcast Wow, That's awesome and what's that experience like of gaming with your kids for you. So. 04:21.58 Kevin Oh It's great like it gives him a lot of opportunity to um, just uses imagination. Also, it's really good for math too because like we homeschool and so he gets this opportunity to apply math in a fun. Way. So He's um I don't know if anyone knows about like older versions of D and D but he can calculate faco and do that all in his head and ah. 04:45.30 sidekqpodcast Wow, That's that's impressive. Yeah, are we ready for him to be in charge of the space program to get us back to the moon. 04:56.51 Kevin Yeah I I do wonder and and that actually is funny because he's like oh I Love fantasy but can we play D and D in space. So he's um, he asked me to so I ended up ordering a sci-fi rpg. 05:12.11 Kevin Um, it's a clone of traveler I don't if if any of um, if you've ever heard of that either. It's it's like the first i-fi well. 05:16.40 sidekqpodcast I I feel like I have I feel like I have heard of it. But I I don't have any experience playing it I feel like I've heard of it though. 05:25.78 Kevin Yeah, it's just one of those classic ones I think it came out 3 years after D and D and there's been many versions but there's also been like ah kind of an open source person called Cphius Engine that's been I wouldn't call it popular but popularness small like you know Sci-fi. Rpg Community So we're going to start playing that as well. 05:44.00 sidekqpodcast Okay, curious though I wonder what your son's opinion on spelljammer is I know they redid it for a fifth edition. So. 05:54.16 Kevin Ah, yeah, now at some point I think we'll try some fifth edition I just haven't we haven't played fifth edition me personally or him just because I I wanted to do more rules light. 06:06.65 sidekqpodcast Okay, before you dive into the deep end I got you. 06:08.62 Kevin D and D before we go into that. But yeah, but he he has said like when can we play ah fifth edition. He's asked it a few times. So yeah. 06:19.55 sidekqpodcast Oh Wow Okay, well maybe he can listen to this podcast and get some ideas for some characters to stick in his games. You know a little shameless self plug for myself. Why not? um. 06:27.73 Kevin Ah, yeah. 06:33.90 Kevin Yeah, and actually he's I went to work one day and he he like came I came back and he had like he took the graph paper and he like made his own dungeon and um it. 06:49.30 Kevin It's like his own rules like his own house rules. But it's pretty similar to B X D and D So like it's he remembers a lot of it So he's already dming I didn't even ask him to he just kind of did it on his own. 06:50.90 sidekqpodcast So. 06:58.59 sidekqpodcast That's awesome. 07:03.60 sidekqpodcast You just you just showed him the basics and then ah you know he he took off running that awesome to hear well of course as you know this podcast is called Psyics Andsy Quest So we always like to ask the questions about. 07:06.87 Kevin Oh yeah. 07:17.98 sidekqpodcast Who happens to be your favorite Npc whether they're from one of your rpgs or maybe a particular video game or if not maybe film literature, history, television, etc. And why is this character your favorite. 07:32.57 Kevin It probably goes back to so before I even played. Ah you know, um pen and paper d and d like my first experience with the indie was Balter's gate to and my favorite has got to be Minsk and boo just because they give so much levity to. 07:41.87 sidekqpodcast M. 07:50.15 Kevin Ah, pretty serious game like they're just he's kind of goofy like are is he kind of insane. You're not really quite sure but he talks to this this space hamster all the time. Oh they do okay. 07:55.97 sidekqpodcast I oh yeah and they do make an appearance in a spell jammer that's for sure it with with the five e stuff. Yeah I think one of the books is named after the 2 of them Menskin booze. But I think it's basically like the ah the the beastary book I think yeah, but Men'skin boo classic good choice, great choice. Some might say and then ah and then the same side of the token. What's been one of your favorite side quests. 08:15.36 Kevin Okay, I'll have to check it out one of these days. 08:30.10 sidekqpodcast Either from Rpg Video game movie, film, television, etc and why has this side Quest been one of your favorites. 08:38.29 Kevin Ah, so um, this was really hard and um so instead of picking one from a movie I I picked a minor event in history. Oh it's pretty serious but it's like kind of a footnote because I'm also a history note. So um. 08:49.74 sidekqpodcast Interesting. Okay, so. 08:55.96 Kevin I studied abroad in Lithuania and there's this man that's not really well-known here his name sugi harra and ah long story short. He was a diplomat in Lithuania right? before the start of world war ii so they posted him there to kind of keep an eye on Germany. 09:09.73 sidekqpodcast Ooh. 09:14.25 Kevin And the Soviet Union um and he was given a really horrible situation in his lap like once the war started a lot of jews started running to neutral ah Lithuania and it didn't last it wasn't neutral for very long but in that. 09:28.40 sidekqpodcast So. 09:31.60 Kevin In the meantime I think it was just like a few months he just ah, ended up just disobeying orders and just writing transit passport transit visas for people to for jews to go to Japan ah to exit and go somewhere else. But. With the intention that there was nowhere else to go. He just wanted to get them away from nazi Germany so he ended up writing enough visas for like 100000 people. He's just doing it around the clock and just to try to say yeah then from there. 09:59.95 sidekqpodcast Wow. And so then they they went to Japan. 10:08.20 Kevin Other places I'm not entirely sure but just away and he kind of did it with like against orders like I don't think um, he he just kind of did it out of his own initiative and he pra like no one's knows for sure but he might have like gotten reprimanded for that too but like and. He was kind of obscure for a long time until like ah later in life before he died where people recognized ah imperial Japan to Lithuania and. 10:31.39 sidekqpodcast And which country was he an ambassador of oh interesting. Okay, so this is before like the formal Accessxis Powers alliance and stuff like that. Yeah. 10:44.94 Kevin Um I think they were allied with Germany he just he was just ah stationed in a neutral country and um I'm trying to remember all the details but he just ah, he just saw the situation where a lot of. 10:52.76 sidekqpodcast Ah. 11:02.40 sidekqpodcast Wow I've never heard of this gentleman's story and this sounds this sounds fascinating. Yeah and I. 11:02.78 Kevin Jews needed him and he just did it like ah yeah. 11:09.87 Kevin Yeah, there's a history guy Youtube video on it. It's like 15 minutes I could have you put it in the notes or something. It's pretty interesting. 11:20.13 sidekqpodcast Oh yeah, well we could definitely put that in the show notes for sure. Yeah, so more people can learn about this interesting ah real life person from history than maybe find a way to like ah you know, recontextualize for a D and D game. Perhaps. 11:34.38 Kevin Yeah, no, it's there's a lot of intrigue there. So like ah I mean he was put there to spy on 2 different countries. So like yeah you could totally um, you can use some ideas from that. 11:45.37 sidekqpodcast Yeah, and then the final question that we like to ask here in the personal interview section. What are you passionate about and why. 11:56.14 Kevin Ah, so I would say um I have very eclectic tastes and interests like I would say they're so ah, eclectic that um I've always wondered if I'm a unique data point when it comes to marketers like just because I like some very random things so I would say. 12:07.88 sidekqpodcast I. 12:13.71 Kevin Ah, my family were like traditional catholics. So we we do have like a tendency to like latin mass but we don't exclusively go there so like my faith is very important to me. Um, a totally different topic like I like is financial independence so I'm really into reading. Um. Ah, you can just Google there's something called fire. It's called financial independence retire early. It's like a kind of a big movement on the internet Elise. Um, but there's you could do an entire podcast on it. But if you are interested in money stuff. It's really cool. So just Google fire. 12:41.48 sidekqpodcast Um. 12:46.50 sidekqpodcast I. 12:53.50 Kevin And then we love traveling and experiencing the world and different cultures and history. Um, and then the last thing beside ah the last two things we love to bike and walk and live in vibrant cities. So we actually live in. Ah, like right outside of downtown Chicago so we spend most of our time walking around and biking and seeing the city and just enjoying life in this great city and of course ah ttrpgs and board games in general are just great and. They have taken a you know? Um, they haven't been as prominent in my life until more recently again, but I'm so glad um, that you know I can live as a gamer again. 13:41.91 sidekqpodcast Awesome! Well it sounds like you're living the high life and we'll carry that spirit and gratitude forward into a segment that I like to call the npc creation segment all right? and so this segment of the show. Or rather I should phrase it this way. Npc creation is brought to you by you podcast audience and our patrons from patreon so now is the time in the show where we give a shout out to our comfortable patrons and above with a loud hurrah. So do you Katie Downey answer Jablinsky and my parents we say? Cheers. So again, this is for patrons who donate $2 or more a month and these folks are what are classified as my wealthy level patrons. So that means they also get to introduce an element of chance to the random tables that we have for npc creation which you might get to hear them used here today. So if you want to learn more and join our cool. Podcast Patreon community check the show notes below go to my podcast website or just go directly to patreon.com ford slash sidekicks and side quest to find out more about our currently 3 tiers one two four dollars a month and help us expand our operations in the levitating platter in this demi plane and world's beyond all right. So before we started the record button on the podcast. You said that you kind of wanted to do a hybrid like you have a skeleton of an idea but there are some elements that you're up for totally randomizing is that correct. 15:10.96 Kevin Yeah, mostly like name. So my idea is that? um so this isn't completely original like ah one of the ah prominent elements of old school D and D is like the frequent use of factions in dungeons. So you know there's like maybe other adventuring parties or like. 15:25.48 sidekqpodcast Um. 15:28.69 Kevin Ah, group of monsters who hates another group of monsters and you kind of like play them off each other and um I can't remember what dungeon it was like um, but there was like a group of like um maybe Nolls or something that like they found a well and they mono they they started guarding it and they ah. Sell water to like other people in the Dungeon. So I wanted to take that further. So um, the goblins are always the punching bag of like every dungeon they all get slaughtered so there was just a small group of Goblin Brothers and. 15:51.11 sidekqpodcast Oh. 16:07.16 Kevin They're just tired of dying like they they don't want to end up like ah their fellow goblins. So and they kind of are a little more entrepreneurial. So what they end up doing is they find a dungeon. They find a well and um, they start monopolizing like selling a bucket of water at 5 gold pieces. Ah. 16:13.80 sidekqpodcast Um. 16:27.18 Kevin Ah, you know a bucket which is outrageous so that's a lot of money but they've also started doing other things like selling overpriced turkey legs and other things and not just to adventurers but monsters as well. So ah. 16:31.64 sidekqpodcast Um, yeah. 16:40.86 sidekqpodcast Oh so it's like they've made like a safe zone within the dungeon that like everyone can kind of come to. 16:47.26 Kevin Yeah, so there their areas like just kind of full of intrigue and there's kind of this unwritten rule that you just you leave your problems at the door almost like if you' seen John Wick like the continental hotel like you can't do anything there so it's kind of a. 16:59.78 sidekqpodcast M. 17:05.20 Kevin Ah, cross between that and like ah maybe like expensive concessions at Disney world. So. 17:14.00 sidekqpodcast Now is this like just a like a little like a bar like built up around a well or is it like a the like the infancy of like a proper ah like ah town or if you will in the middle of like a dungeon complex. 17:28.12 Kevin I I imagine it more like kind of like a bar like yeah, there's just like bar with like supplies and like a little canteen. Um, yeah, not really quite a town. Ah I kind of wanted to. 17:35.11 sidekqpodcast Okay. 17:41.72 Kevin To be on that little bit of edge of goofiness but not too unbelievable like yeah. 17:44.14 sidekqpodcast Sure, Yeah, yeah because I mean this could be a world where it's just like all sorts of dungeons like the surface is too dangerous So everyone has to live in the dungeons and so it's like with these Goblin Brothers I Guess set up shop and you know they instead of being a. 17:59.94 Kevin We. 18:01.40 sidekqpodcast Ah, feral and and mean and and violent about it. They decided to think with their their financial smarts. Okay, all right? Well Okay, so that's that's a good priise. Okay, and so I guess we'll work our way through the question since it sounds like we have like a trio of Brothers Maybe um, okay. 18:05.99 Kevin Yeah. 18:16.20 Kevin Yeah, yeah. 18:20.20 sidekqpodcast So do you have an idea on the names or you needing to roll some dice and get some names. 18:24.57 Kevin Yeah, that's what that's where I wanted to roll it because it's like I don't know if you have a a goblin table like and um there there is some inspiration from the the pathfinder goblins as well because I love the way they kind of reimaged the goblin as well. So there. 18:38.56 sidekqpodcast M. 18:41.16 Kevin Being a little more a little cute and you know just having a little bit more personality. So but yeah I don't know um I'm not sure what names would be great. 18:46.62 sidekqpodcast Okay I have a d twenty table and you can just roll on it 3 times and we can kind of see what names we get and then figure out how they're all siblings I suppose. 19:00.17 Kevin Yeah, yeah, now that that works for me I'm pulling out my d 20 rate as we speak. Um, let's see I got ah 8 um 14 and 18 19:02.80 sidekqpodcast Perfect. 19:08.46 sidekqpodcast Ok. 19:15.18 sidekqpodcast Okay, so those are 3 entirely unique names so working our way down the list. So ah, 8 your answer provided by previous guests. Matthew J Hansen rosewold day brace. 19:29.85 sidekqpodcast Number 14 provided by previous guest Kevin Shinard Finn Wheatley and then the last one provided by previous guest Sam Rusk are really so it looks like we've got like 2 of them that sound like they have like completely different surnames and then one of them is just goes by a really. Which is spelled a rili. 19:50.42 Kevin Is there a really a girl because maybe maybe it could be 2 brothers and a sister I never thought about that but that could be pretty cool. 19:57.78 sidekqpodcast Yeah, yeah, well rosealt Yeah rooselt sounds like a feminine name at least to my personal opinion fin yeah Fin Wheatley Roseswalt daybrace and then a really, It's whatever you want I mean these are your characters I suppose. 20:08.90 Kevin Yeah, no cool it? Yeah ah no that that sounds good. Um, ah I'll go with it. 20:18.18 sidekqpodcast Okay, and so they're cool with having all these different names then they some of them decided to adopt like more common sounding names than the last one's like no I like my name how it is I don't need a I don't need a silly name or whatever. 20:21.77 Kevin Yeah, yeah I don't know. Yeah, they maybe they just off to think? yeah. 20:36.71 Kevin Yeah I mean it's possible like ah thinking of like I know like since they do more business with lots of a diverse group of people like maybe they didn't want to do Goblin names. So. 20:50.42 sidekqpodcast Mm Yeah, they didn't want to scare them off when they were ah you know sending a contract paperwork back and forth like oh broswell day brace. Sure Yeah I'll agree to sell barrels of ale to them. Sure no problem or whatever. Okay, that's cool. 20:54.47 Kevin Anyway, it. 21:02.71 Kevin Yeah. 21:07.62 sidekqpodcast Um, okay, and so the ancestor of ancestry. We've ah talked about is goblin like straight up like regular goblin like the kind of goblins you might find in the path finder version with the big ah bubble heads. Okay, all right? So just 3 regular goblins all right. 21:18.44 Kevin Yeah, definitely. 21:26.30 sidekqpodcast And then let's see ah the job or role in society. So it sounds like they're like ah Tavern Owners does each one specialize in a particular thing. 21:35.97 Kevin I haven't gotten that far yet. But that is a good thing to think about. Ah um, you know? Yeah, maybe one's a cook. Ah you know one deals more with the money and then. 21:37.45 sidekqpodcast Yeah, because you got rose wall. You have fin and then you have a really. 21:51.94 Kevin 1 is like the enforcer just kind of keeping order and they probably have other goblins that are hired hands too. So that it's not Smith the three of them. But ah, ah. 22:02.13 sidekqpodcast Do you think it's like a whole group ah diverse diverse diverse group of goblins so you might have like some hop goblins or bugbears in the mix too as far as like guards or other employees. 22:11.39 Kevin Ah, probably yeah, yeah other humanoids and then um, but um, yeah I just wanted to keep these three the most prominent because they're. They eventually want to expand and franchise. 22:27.76 sidekqpodcast Mm of course? Yeah, yeah, okay so if you had to kind of assign. So we said there was a cook. We said there was someone who ran the money and then there was someone who's kind of like security. So of those three who do you think does? what. 22:40.79 Kevin Ah, maybe um are really is that kind of the enforcer kind of ah deals with all the the you know all the enforcement and and all the security and everything. 22:53.32 sidekqpodcast Security and okay, yeah, okay, thin okay Roselt is the the books and the money and all that stuff so are youmagining because like okay. 22:57.83 Kevin Maybe Fittens the cook then rosold. Yeah, yeah, yep. 23:10.25 sidekqpodcast So is this like ah so this is like a proper Tavern then so it's like there's rooms and stuff as well as like board. Well room and board and and and drink and food. Maybe even some sort of like basic general supplies or bartering corner or something like that. 23:25.32 Kevin Yeah, um, yeah, maybe maybe less of a tabard and more like I just imagine like if you've ever gone to a lot of developing countries where they just have ah like street food stands where just like plastic chairs on the side of The. The road kind of thing except in a dungeon. So Just very basic. But. 23:44.80 sidekqpodcast Um, okay, like a very small building that they've constructed. That's somehow next to this? Well okay, sure yeah and so a really's job is like to guard the well. 23:51.96 Kevin Yeah, yeah, because everyone needs water. So. 24:01.80 sidekqpodcast Along with his team to make sure. No one's doing anything funny and then Finn is like inside the tiny building cooking food and then ah roselt kind of like walks around and like takes orders and and ah holds on to the money and stuff like that. Okay, all right, very cool. 24:15.10 Kevin Yeah, and that sounds great. Yeah. 24:21.60 sidekqpodcast And then let's see how old are our goblins. 24:26.68 Kevin I Don't know what their age ranges are but they're in general just young and ambitious. So they they? um they aren't this they aren't dipp. Yeah yeah, they just know they they've seen too many of their family. 24:33.22 sidekqpodcast Not not like children but they're like proper young adults. Basically. 24:44.00 Kevin And Clan folk get slaughtered by adventures or maybe you know Orcs or other other humanoids. 24:54.53 sidekqpodcast Sure, Yeah, yeah, they they watched ah one of their neighbors get dissolved in a side of a gelatinous cube. They were like oh we should not have gone that way. Okay, um, let's see so now comes to the part. 24:59.32 Kevin Oh yeah, yeah yeah. 25:11.55 sidekqpodcast Let's describe the physical appearance of these siblings. So when you picture rosel Daybrace Fin Wheatley and a really what are you seeing based on what we know their jobs are. 25:25.00 Kevin So roselt like um, definitely as one of those like ah ah those coin belt things you know the ones where I'm trying to think almost like they I don't even know if you'd find that in a D and re world like the. 25:38.95 sidekqpodcast You could if you wanted to? Oh yeah, she like presses a button in like you know like Gold Gold Silver and Copper pieces come out of it. It's like a huge contraption So that's like pretty hefty on her if she's a goblin. 25:42.16 Kevin Yeah, like those um those arcade coin like dispenser things around. But. 25:51.49 Kevin Yeah, Oh yeah, yeah, um, and then um, yeah, obviously the ah fins carrying a you know, frying pan or Um. Maybe some tongs. Maybe they have a grill and then ah, um, yeah, and then orllli's ah I know what?? What's a good weapon for there. But yeah, she's she's more Um, she's tougher than her size looks. 26:10.79 sidekqpodcast Mmm, A nice charcoal grill. 26:26.73 sidekqpodcast Oh okay and she so ah so a really in roseal or the sisters then and fins the brother. Okay, so she's even though they're all like regular Goblin size. She's kind of like a really is the more beefy muscular of the siblings. Okay. 26:27.41 Kevin Ah, yeah, yeah. 26:29.86 Kevin Yeah, yeah. 26:40.45 Kevin Yep. 26:42.41 sidekqpodcast I was going to say are you thinking like ah like a scimitar or or an axe or something like that. 26:48.94 Kevin Yeah, ah scimitar sounds good. That's good. Good idea. 26:50.58 sidekqpodcast Okay, and obviously with Roselt having to interact with customers and stuff is there any you know aside from the big coin contraption. She wears to dole out change and take money and stuff is there like any way in how she dresses or appears. When she's like interacting with all these people. 27:15.29 Kevin Um, I'd say um I wouldn't say like a very fancy dress but like definitely like they're better dress than you would think a goblin would be like I don't know like. Ah, so. 27:30.44 sidekqpodcast They took it off like ah like a kids toy or something like that. 27:34.56 Kevin Yeah I don't know where they would have found it but they're um, you know? yeah they're they're well dressed by goin standard So she's ah she's in like a kind of a serving dress but you know usually what do you see golins where I don't know like a rags or something. 27:51.16 sidekqpodcast Um, yeah, and then of course fin probably looks like ah like I'd imagine like a fry cook or something like that with a big with a big Chef's hat and like a big leather apron for his size and just ah, ah. 27:52.60 Kevin Yeah. 27:56.20 Kevin Yeah, yeah. 28:05.58 sidekqpodcast For some for some reason I got the vision The the vision of him chomping on a huge cigar. Although I don't know if that's something that fin would necessarily do while he's cooking the food maybe just eat cigars instead of smokes them I don't know if you wanted to give him that kind of a quirk. 28:16.13 Kevin Ah, yeah. 28:22.91 Kevin And. 28:24.51 sidekqpodcast He's like oh a cigar munch you just eats it instead of lighting it. Ah yeah, your characters you you know? However, and then then of course anyone who listens to this episode can ah mix and Match. You know the details. However, they need them to see fit in their game. So if you like the idea of a goblin that eats cigars rather than smoke. Cigars then that is your choice to make. Um, Ah yeah. 28:44.56 Kevin Yeah, now you've definitely given me a lot of ideas because I had a small idea for I popping around my head in the last couple weeks but I didn't really I wanted to wait to flesh this out on air. 28:59.76 sidekqpodcast Sure Well, that's what what? That's what we're here to do provide a public service. Um, okay, and then is so and then you feel pretty good with kind of getting the mental picture of how all these siblings appear. Okay. 29:12.32 Kevin Yeah, okay. 29:15.67 sidekqpodcast And then if you were to describe each of them with 3 adjectives. What 3 adjectives would you use triple the work. 29:19.27 Kevin Um, oh yeah, definitely um I've only thought about this ah them collectively since I but they're all very determined to survive so they're. 29:30.68 sidekqpodcast For sure. 29:37.66 Kevin That's one of their big motivation motivations to just survivors. They're very clever like that's how they've gotten here and they're entrepreneurial So they they want to do something different than their fellow goblins. 29:40.11 sidekqpodcast Oh. 29:45.80 sidekqpodcast M. 29:53.23 sidekqpodcast Okay, so they're determined to survive and they're entrepreneurial. Um, but is there maybe like 1 adjective between the siblings that like uniquely describes each of them like so you know like okay this is generally how they all all are, but then. If you looked at Rosewald you could tell like ah this is the adjective versus fin versus a really. 30:14.20 Kevin Okay, yeah, she's the Roosevelt's definitely the the miser. She she like she can tell if you know like 1 of the other servers like swiped a coin or something or if um, anyone came up short or. You know she watches the money closely for the firm and um, yeah I don't I don't know. Yeah, you could definitely help me I'm I'm this is the like ah all ah half baked concept of so far. 30:34.27 sidekqpodcast M. 30:46.42 sidekqpodcast Okay, yeah, and then let's see so fin's yeah, Finn's interest you know with surviving and then also with being financially motivated. Um is there a reason that he gravitated towards cooking the food was it just because he was like. The most comfortable doing it. He has a love for food. He wants to try and explore other foods or you know maybe was ah you know convincing to his sisters to be like look you know people you know they like water but they also like to eat stuff too and it would make sense if we like sold food too. 31:19.00 Kevin Um, maybe um and maybe earlier on he had found a ah cookbook and somehow managed to read it so like and I mean it it would be hard for goblin to go out to like you know, human and Nelvin's and dwarven civilization. 31:25.20 sidekqpodcast Ok. 31:34.90 sidekqpodcast M. 31:35.36 Kevin They'd probably be killed but he he kind of dreams of cooking although that that might be hard like cooking in maybe a restaurant or something. But yeah. 31:44.83 sidekqpodcast Okay, so he's kind of ambitious for like that for himself like he like yeah he's he's fine helping out his siblings but his pie in the sky dream is to one day like I want to be out there cooking in the castles and stuff like that I want to have my own food cart in a major city. 32:00.13 Kevin Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 32:04.49 sidekqpodcast Kind of a thing. Okay and then for as far as a release concerned since you know she's the muscle I suppose of the of the trio. 32:16.80 Kevin Yeah, um, ah and she she just kind of fell into it because she was the the toughest of the siblings and there was a need So she's there to to be of service. 32:29.46 sidekqpodcast Okay, so she is um, okay so she she's how I don't know helpful. But so like yeah, kind of like an adjective to describe someone who's yeah who's who's doing it because they know it's the thing to do. Like they're they're specially built or task for the job. So okay, so kind of like I'm just trying to think of the adjective that exactly describes it for some reason I'm getting like Luisa from incanto vibes in my head when I'm picturing a really not that she's necessarily that big of a goblin. Um. 33:00.96 Kevin He said. 33:03.61 sidekqpodcast But maybe just like responsible I don't know if responsible is the right one or just tough or yeah because we've already said determined as far as survival financially motivated and just I don't know. Yeah, can you think of a adjective specifically. 33:24.48 Kevin Um, you know this is a lot harder with 3 Yeah um, oh no I don't know I just um. 33:25.67 sidekqpodcast Yeah I know we're really, we're really pushing our noodles tonight. Yeah. 33:40.33 Kevin Yeah I know it's it's a little bit incomplete but I only had a little bit of an idea you know going into this night but like honestly this has been a great exercise just even so far I've like fleshed them out so much more in my head than they were just like. 33:44.26 sidekqpodcast M. 33:55.91 sidekqpodcast He. 33:59.17 Kevin Ah, few hours ago because it's like I had this just small concept. So and. 34:03.36 sidekqpodcast Yeah, okay, so maybe like a placeholder value in the in the terms of like okay so she's the toughest She knows. It's like what she's made for it's now she knows like she can do the job the best as far as like guarding and ah you know, maybe maybe charismatic. Um, depending on if she commands the respect of the other probably physically bigger goblins to like listen to her to want to guard this well of water and not you know, just overtake them themselves. You know? Okay I could I could buy that okay and then comes with the question of. 34:30.82 Kevin Yeah, yeah. 34:38.23 sidekqpodcast What's going to be a valuable item piece of lower secret or ideal or concept that each of our characters Ascribes to if you know something you can do it or you know we haven't rolled the dice in a while if you just want to roll a bunch of D Four S and D sixes we can. We can kind of figure out what some of these things are. 34:55.98 Kevin Yeah I actually yeah would love to roll some I know 1 ideal that I want to instill is that they are very tolerant of all creatures so they um they don't care as long as they bring in business. So unlike. 35:08.80 sidekqpodcast That sounds like a rosewald sort of a thing she doesn't care. You know where you come from what your lineage or ancestry is in her mind. It's like it's the money that does the talking. Okay. 35:12.63 Kevin Yeah. 35:21.96 Kevin Yep, but yeah I can I can break out some Jace because this it's always fun when you when you roll something random and it just gives you you know new ideas. 35:34.84 sidekqpodcast Yeah, for sure. Um, so you would roll a D four for the category and then you roll a D six for the particular thing. 35:36.63 Kevin Just let me know which one to roll first. 35:47.96 Kevin Okay, it must have all fall into the bottom of my bag like okay, found a D four got it I got ah. 35:50.11 sidekqpodcast He. 36:02.56 sidekqpodcast A 4 is an ideal or concept. So now you can roll a d six and we'll figure out which of the siblings would ascribe to this idea. 36:03.40 Kevin Um, a four. So. 36:12.82 Kevin 3 36:13.79 sidekqpodcast 3 okay, your answer was provided by previous guest Travis Frederick faith so of the siblings which of them cares the most about faith. 36:28.13 Kevin No gosh. Oh ah, yeah, maybe um, maybe we could flesh out or really so maybe shape in some. 36:38.12 sidekqpodcast Yeah, so like maybe she's really into like Goblin honor culture. You know might makes right in that kind of a thing so she like takes like the you know the Goblin Pantheon seriously and that's maybe how she's able to command the respect of other goblins as far as like. 36:43.65 Kevin Yeah, yeah. 36:58.10 sidekqpodcast You know oh she's she's she's smaller than us. But she's definitely more pious and devout so therefore she commands more respect kind of a thing. She's like going around quoting. 37:04.69 Kevin Yeah, no I like that. 37:11.70 sidekqpodcast You know Goblin scripture verses at them and they like when they're like acting out and then they snap to attention like oh you're right? You're right? Or really, you're right I I don't know what I was thinking kind of a thing and that may be your thirdjec adjective is pious or something like that. Okay, very cool. 37:25.22 Kevin Yeah, no, that's that's actually good. 37:30.67 sidekqpodcast And then let's see so then we have fin left I guess so d four d 6 37:33.65 Kevin Okay. 2 and and 3 4 37:41.62 sidekqpodcast Okay, 2 would be a piece of lore 3 hi your answer was provided by our patreon supporter Goblin Katie aka Katie Downey um okay according to this fin wheatley knows the origin stories of all player. Character races. So maybe maybe he found more books than just a cookbook or he just listens to a lot of stories while he's cooking food. 38:00.96 Kevin Um, maybe yeah, no okay yeah, it's possible. 38:15.98 Kevin Yeah, if he found a cookbook. He probably found other books too and he's just he's the most interested in the world because he wants he has this pie in this guy I dream of I don't know working in or a restaurant outside of you know Goblin culture but it will be a tough one to. 38:28.14 sidekqpodcast M. 38:32.84 Kevin To do in most fantasy worlds. 38:34.83 sidekqpodcast Right? Yeah or like I was ah like I maybe I posited like a food truck in a major menchoper list where they're a little more tolerant if that is the default assumption of your game world. But okay yeah I like that especially like the contemplative. 38:39.40 Kevin Yeah. 38:50.13 sidekqpodcast Ah, time that he has probably in cooking the dishes and you know he's just listening to stories or he's like you know I was reading this thing and wouldn't you know the the myth. Behind how all the dwarfs came to be and he starts going into this whole tale about the dwarfs while he's making like a ribeye steak or something like That. You're just like Wow I did not know you knew this much that is very Impressive. Kind of a thing. 39:21.28 Kevin Yeah, no thank you for all the ideas. 39:25.54 sidekqpodcast No, not a problem sorry I was just worried that I lost you for a second so I was giving you ah a second to chime in. 39:34.16 Kevin Okay, yeah, yeah I'm I'm here everyone yeah. 39:37.35 sidekqpodcast You You still doing okay with the connection. Okay I just wanted to make sure. Okay, um, all right? Well now we come to the question of what is going to be your particular quest. Ah, that these goblins would be willing to recruit or hire player characters to go and do is it going to be something that they're all collectively asking for or do you want to split it up into each one of the goblins has their own particular side. Quest especially if you know you were saying you envisioned them. Kind of as a a you were imagining them as a collective and the fact that their place is kind of like a neutral meeting place for all kinds of people to be I don't know what are you thinking. 40:20.38 Kevin Yeah, so um, on top of like the neutral meeting place where you could probably find a lot of other quests from different factions that might be inhabiting the dungeon 1 in particular that I would give from them collectively is that. 40:27.54 sidekqpodcast I. 40:35.61 Kevin There were some knolls who came and ah even though ah the goblins are neutral and they let everyone come if you dine and dash that is against the rules so they want you to track down some knolls who you know they just bought some turkey legs and um. 40:48.19 sidekqpodcast Mm. 40:55.17 Kevin Water and well they didn't buy it that that's why they they want you to go after the. 40:58.36 sidekqpodcast Oh interesting. So is it standard practice for you to get your food before you've paid or is rolls walled the kind to be like no, you have to pay first before you get the food. So. 41:10.60 Kevin Um I think um, well it will. It would definitely be you get your food first. So just to make this story work. So. 41:16.64 sidekqpodcast Mm sure. Okay, yeah, because there's there's also an implied um honor system when it comes to this place, especially when you have a really who's very pious. So she probably goes around. You know, barking periodically about like you know the rules. Of good conduct and stuff like that and Roosevelt's therere obviously walking around and and you know enforcing in her way by like you know making sure ah the good quality food and and and water gets delivered and then you know collectively. Ah, you know promptly getting payment and stuff like that. 41:52.17 sidekqpodcast Okay, um, yeah, I'm just curious if ah if you're going to leave it open to Dungeon Masters to figure out how this ah particular thing happened like ah you know if they they somehow caused a distraction and that's how they were able to escape without paying kind of a thing Or. Or they just yeah I don't know curious your thoughts on that. 42:12.36 Kevin Yeah, no, um I was thinking just you know they flipped over a table or something and they just kind of walked out and um before anyone could react. Ah yeah I hadn't thought too far that far ahead. But yeah I was. 42:17.67 sidekqpodcast They threw a smoke bomb and disappeared. 42:26.93 sidekqpodcast Okay, so the knolls made a scene whether it was flipping a table ah throwing a smoke bomb saying hey look what's that over there or whatever they did but they they escaped they dined and dashed okay and so then all 3 siblings want you to go and undertake this mission. Okay. 42:27.17 Kevin I was going to figure something out like that. 42:44.96 sidekqpodcast Um, so then what is going to be the reward if the player characters are successful in navigating the dungeon complex and finding out where these knolls are camped out or live. 42:53.79 Kevin So That's the thing the reward it will seem like just like wait. What I went through all that trouble so they actually just offer a free meal which ordinarily would be an expensive roast turkey leg and some free water so it just feels really bad and you like.. It's not a lot of reward because they probably don't have all that much money. But um, it does have consequences down the line minor consequences in that like they they want to franchise and and I envisioned them actually being Successful. So like it's. 43:16.69 sidekqpodcast Mm. 43:30.52 Kevin The reward is Goodwill of like having a good contact that shows up that will show up in many dungeons I think eventually they'll you know there, there'll be good information brokers and play just having the Goodwill of these goblins will actually be pretty useful. In and of itself for the player characters. 43:52.61 sidekqpodcast Okay, all right? So So so the immediate reward is okay, you get a free meal and some water you know for doing your good deed but later on in the campaign as the story progresses. They'll find out that these goblins were able to franchise and then suddenly ah you know the. These businesses are a little bit more friendly towards the player characters because of the good deeds that they did. 44:15.30 Kevin Yeah, and so if they refuse to you know to help it's like there's no real immediate consequence but they don't have as much Goodwill and as their business expands like they're just a little less friendly to the player characters. 44:31.68 sidekqpodcast So okay, so either way the business does plan on expanding but you'll find that they're a little less. Ah, ah you know, friendly in stuff. Okay, and then okay so okay, interesting. Yeah, um. 44:38.25 Kevin Yeah. 44:46.97 sidekqpodcast I'm just thinking consequence of failure. Okay, and then um I'm just trying to think that. 44:51.37 Kevin Yeah, this is just like a small thing because it's like kind of like a a little bit of an aside ah you know obviously it's not going to be the main quest of the the whole dungeon. It's just kind of this little little thing on the side just to give it a little bit of flavor and flair. 45:06.67 sidekqpodcast Sure Um I Guess the way I should phrase the question is do the goblins perceive failure in different stages differently like does do they only care about getting payment. Or do they care that these Knolls stay alive and that they're repeat customers. So. 45:24.25 Kevin Ah I think they're more motivated well won the money. It's probably not that much but just the honor they they? Um, they don't like that they were ripped off so is is probably more about um, their dignity. 45:29.38 sidekqpodcast M. 45:37.98 sidekqpodcast Okay I feel like it might cover color the flavor though. As far as you know because maybe you know up until this point you know the honor system hadn't been tested. And so this is like the first big test and so depending on how the player characters resolve. It could be like oh like this place gets a fearsome representation because did you hear what happened to the group of knolls that you know dined and dashed. They all got murdered. And so everyone's like fearful when they go to this place even though it's supposed to be like friendly, neutral ground like everyone's like real tense and stuff like that. But if the player characters somehow resolve it peacefully maybe they trick them out of their money or something like that and maybe everyone's a little more like like friendly and happy. Go lucky. Maybe not happy. Go lucky but they're at least a little more relaxed and stuff like that where they know like hey man you got to play by the rules and you know they're just going to come get the money you know so it's just better and good manners to just pay versus like oh you better pay or else they're going to murder you if you don't pay for this turkey leg or whatever. 46:46.29 Kevin Yeah, that is true Actually um I hadn't thought that far ahead. But yeah, they there's probably a good way to do it more peacefully? so. 46:52.10 sidekqpodcast Yeah, there's the what is it in mass effect terms. There's the Paragon way and there's the renegade way of resolving this side Quest Okay and then were you interested in exploring any of the other optional questions of the. 46:59.47 Kevin Yeah, cool. 47:09.45 sidekqpodcast Characters or do you feel like this is pretty good. 47:11.97 Kevin Um, honestly I think this is ah ah, pretty good I I did go through some of the optional questions that you provided and um I think I've covered some of them and I've honestly fleshed out like. 47:29.96 Kevin Um, they're personalized more than I thought I would have so yeah, Okay, yeah, let's do that. 47:32.99 sidekqpodcast Okay, all right? Well if you're ready then we can go on to the next segment. The random encounter. Yeah, all right? Well now that we've learned about these trio of siblings I think it's time we head into a random encounter. All right? and this segment would be brought to you by sponsorship. 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So this is the random encounter section where we get to do a little bit of a roleplay a little bit of a vignette if you will with the characters since we have 3 characters I don't expect you to do 3 voices between all of these characters. But I'm curious of what kind of scene? are you interested in showcasing the siblings off in are they going to meet a. 49:03.45 sidekqpodcast Podcast character is it just going to be like the siblings talking among themselves is it them stumbling upon the well for the very first time or something like that or what kind of scene? are you interested in showcasing them in. So. 49:16.37 Kevin I Think a day in the life of ah of their business so you can bring one of your characters in and we can. We can figure out what happens with ah. 49:28.73 sidekqpodcast And and maybe introduce the ah the the side quest okay, all right? So of my podcast characters that I have who are you interested in the meeting because of course we have Duncan who's the recklessly brave adventurer for hire. 49:30.99 Kevin Yeah. 49:46.42 sidekqpodcast Happy. Go lucky fighter guy. We've got sonnya the warrior woman who multiclassed into a paladin. We've got koak the lawful evil arcane trickster roguish dwarf we have Chris Lee the herbalist botanist woodolf druid who multiclass de cleric we have. Ah, Ryan the astral elf allusionist wizard and then we've also got agape who is the lilac colored teaflling wild magic fay wild leaning ah sorcerer and so. And if none of those sound good. We can totally invent a brand new npc as well. You want to meet duncan. Okay, all right? So do you would you like for me to set the scene or would you like to set the scene. Okay. 50:29.32 Kevin Ah, Duncan sounds good. Yep. 50:36.51 Kevin Why don't you set the scene. 50:42.18 sidekqpodcast Where we last left our hero Duncan he was finishing up on a whaleil of a tale of an adventure when he got the hint from mirrko the tobaxy falconer and he went off to go chase those stories about the treasure and the overdue library book and all and the the. Sea creatures attacking all sorts of things. It was a whole ordeal and you know that tested Duncan's sea legs for a good bit and he's ready for some dry land. Once again, it's not that long before he hears a rumor in that town about like this really interesting dungeon complex out a little bit of ways from the town. And so Duncan goes exploring as any adventurer would and it's not too long as he's delving into this dungeon ah that he comes across like what he might consider like a very small wayside. Um, ah pit stop tavern. Watering hole sort of a thing like you would find on the surface of ah of a major highway and so Duncan kind of ah carefully approaches and as he gets closer. What does he see. 51:50.35 Kevin Ah, he's greeted by Rosevel these and she says welcome to our humble spot. Would you like some water some turkey legs. Ah I know um it can get wild out there in the dungeon. But here. 52:06.57 Kevin You can rest up and ah and um, before you get out there again. 52:13.99 sidekqpodcast Oh well, hello hello there. Wow Thank you, thank you so much for your your kindness. Um I promise I was not reaching for my weapon I've you know I've had to deal with goblins in the past, but this is a you know? maybe maybe you know? ah. And so Duncan's starting to trip over his words a little bit as he's trying to explain or or you know make it. Ah you know he's just overwhelmed ah by by the the sudden approach of of Rosalden explaining and so he's quickly trying to like catch himself to not say something stupid or foolish because he is chaotic good after all. So sometimes his foot gets in his mouth. Um, but we'll say he's quickly looking around for a sign and he's like oh oh, what What? What is this lovely abode that I might be able to add to my ah tales of adventure to say ah that I that I stayed at. 53:03.80 Kevin Ah, yeah, that's a good That's a good question. We don't really even have a name yet, but we just ah, we just want to serve ah all the denizens of this this underground Subterranean dungeon like whether you be adventure or monster. 53:21.10 sidekqpodcast Wow and you'll see Duncan like takes a second to like recognize her words and he's just like impressed. He's just like well that is that is really good to hear I i. 53:21.50 Kevin Everyone is welcome here. 53:35.47 sidekqpodcast You know I've learned a lot about myself these last few adventures I've had you know that there's just the world is not exactly so black and white. But you know there's the shades of gray and there's you know there's good people in the in the places you would least expect it and um. He looks over towards the well and maybe he sees a really kind of like menacing up a little bit just reflexively and so he kind of like you know, kind of stops speaking for a second to like but get adjusted. Um, but he's like yeah yeah, yes you know I I will yeah I will sit down and and. I'm just happy to be back on dry land for a little bit so as to you know, sheepishly make his way to a table and you know you know be be ah you know watching and observant so he will. He will go down to sit at ah one of the little tables. That's there provided. 54:30.70 sidekqpodcast Is it particularly busy today. 54:30.62 Kevin Yeah, you, you actually see a very strange scene of just like I know like a you know fighter and full plate like like not too far away from like an orc at a different table. You know it's just like what what is going On. It's just kind of this. Surreal like unwritten rule. This is just neutral ground and you kind of just see everyone there. Um, and maybe ah, maybe in a vampire the corner that would be kind of crazy but I haven't decided how. 54:49.27 sidekqpodcast M. 55:00.21 sidekqpodcast Oh. 55:06.54 Kevin How unbelievable this would be it. But yeah, maybe. 55:09.15 sidekqpodcast Um, yeah, no duncan. Um, you know since Rosealt was ah you know speaking to him initially and taking his order as he will as as it were. He definitely say ah a turkey leg I think would be very fine indeed. Um, you're not, you're. Familiar with Qorvis ah, ah you know the arbiter of the accords ah are you I did have to go I did have to go now I did have to fight some of your kin who worshipped the gobliot because they had they had taken over a a temple to the Raven Queen but you know that is that is in the past now. But um. He he was a now he was a gentleman that was very concerned with ah the balance between order and chaos and and in in my memory recesses I'm I'm just getting like a hint of that so I'm wondering if you've ever have you ever ran across a tale about him. 56:02.75 Kevin Oh ah I don't I can't say I We do get a lot of a lot of people. 56:05.94 sidekqpodcast He's a kinkoo fellow. He's one of the bird people. 56:12.55 sidekqpodcast Well, he stuck at his place. He can't leave that's kind of his rule but I was just curious because I saw the inspiration I was I was just overwhelmed. Yeah. 56:16.59 Kevin Okay. 56:24.79 sidekqpodcast And Duncan will keep talking nervously and you know just you know he's he's trying to get again. He's trying to get his foot out of his mouth and so sometimes you know it takes him a little while to learn the lesson of like sometimes it's better to just not say anything and just be quiet and observe and listen. And you know let others do the talking instead of you. 56:48.72 Kevin You yeah, and you know as he's thinking like ah he sees over doreli and she's like tapping her cemitar against her her hands and she's like if you want water. It's 5 gold pieces per per bucket. So she's kind of a grof. She's. She's not very like charismatic. So she's just kind of the tough tough person but she she's standing over by the well. So. 57:12.26 sidekqpodcast And does she have like a cadre of other bigger Goblin Nods that are with her. 57:19.40 Kevin Yes, yeah, just ah, they're They're definitely the muscle in this establishment. 57:24.59 sidekqpodcast And then Duncan will just say oh okay, ah, yeah yeah I could I could do with a bucket. He'll look around as kind of like a way to like win his way with everyone. He'll say a round of bucket of waters for everyone. My treats and so he like pulls out his coin pouch and he starts pulling out like a lot of gold pieces does that win over anybody else. 57:45.76 Kevin Um, ah, um, the everyone's a little confused because ah, um, that doesn't happen there so that it is neutral ground but they you know everyone's. 58:01.15 Kevin Comes here to talk but they're they're not necessarily trusting of each other. So um, but there' are some. There's some. Ah, there's some people that seem appreciative of the the gesture. So. 58:03.72 sidekqpodcast A. 58:13.28 sidekqpodcast I Was gonna say I wonder if the vampires offended that I bought him a bucket of water since water is kind of against their thing. Ah the the the the nice and posing gentleman over there can have blood I'll pay for his blood if that's what he wants. 58:18.90 Kevin Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 58:31.66 sidekqpodcast Hopefully it's good beef blood. Ah, but yeah is ah yeah, so Duncan's going to wait for his turkey leg and you know pain for all the buckets of water to go with everyone um and then ah is is do these knolls maybe enter the scene. 58:32.91 Kevin Bill. 58:50.11 Kevin Oh yes, So um, there's a little disturbance by in the corner where where you see a bunch of Knolls and um, then suddenly a smoke bomb and then explodes and. 59:00.68 sidekqpodcast Um, what what? Duncan like jumps up from his table like ready for an inventory hasn't pulled out any weapons yet, but he's like looking around like ah like he he calls over and he's like. 59:04.52 Kevin The the knolls are no longer there. 59:18.62 sidekqpodcast Is everyone okay does anyone need help I'm helpful I have the business card that says so and he like reaches into a pouch to pull out one of his business cards to hold up. 59:25.38 Kevin Oh and that's when rooselt comes over and she's like yelling like they didn't pay and they ran or they they they ordered several turkey legs which are a hundred gold pieces per each. 59:41.42 sidekqpodcast Duncan did not realize the tab he was going to be incurring today. Um, and he'll be like that. That's how much you charge for turkey leg. Well I mean far, be it for me to to tell people how to do their business. But I think you would do. Much better if you perhaps lowered some of your prices he looks around the the dungeon area and you can see like cobwebs and old skeleton bones and all these other things and he's like all right, all right point taken point taken. Um. 59:57.10 Kevin Well, we're the only business in town. 01:00:12.45 sidekqpodcast Well well I can I can help do you do you need help. Do you need me to go Do you need someone to go chase them down. 01:00:18.31 Kevin Oh that would be perfect like there are rules here that must be followed like while we allow everyone to come whether you're evil good um vampire Goblin or human but ah. 01:00:34.12 Kevin We don't appreciate being disrespected. 01:00:37.33 sidekqpodcast Of course, yes, you're trying to run an abstaining business I get it I see I see um so he he looks around to the the crowd gathered maybe fin is poked his head out of the kitchen. Ah, shack at this point because of the smoke bomb and the explosion and and stuff like that. But he addresses the crowd like as if he's ah you know like in ah in ah in a heroic fantasy movie and he's like you know customers, friends compatriots and he like starts going into a Monologue I swear to you. You know, ah by the name and the deeds that are printed on this business card which he hands to Roosevelt which just says you know adventure for hire. No no feet too daring. No no mission to daunting ah proud patron of the cry and creatures stone cast and he says. I swear that I will apprehend these no good dine in dashers and I will set things right and he he he waits to see if the audience of people has any reaction to it. 01:01:45.52 Kevin Oh it. Perfect wow. 01:01:48.24 sidekqpodcast Does anyone react to to Duncan's speech or are they just like staring at him like why are you talking like this. 01:01:54.00 Kevin Um, they're this. Yeah, they're they're just a little bit confused at him like they're um, they don't They don't often see anyone like that just like. 01:02:09.32 Kevin You know, having a giant monologue to no one in particular. So. 01:02:12.78 sidekqpodcast At. Sure. Yeah, so duncan'll just be like you Duncan you really need to work better at reading the room you really need to work better reading the okay so he'll he'll um you know he he holds up his arm which has his um crossbow contraption on it. He he pulls out the walking cane that emanates a light saber like glow um and he'll say I don't worry I will deal with these ruffians and I will be back. Post hace onward and so then he like dashes. Ah. But before he starts Dashing. He'll just say like he'll he'll look over at Finn who hasn't had much interaction with but he'll say keep the turkey leg hoted I will be back to eat its onward and he dashes off trying to follow the trail of where the knolls disappeared off to. 01:03:02.28 Kevin No perfect. Yeah yeah, thank you all my. 01:03:07.32 sidekqpodcast And seen so there we go so what did you? ah think of your ah being in a random encounter with 3 npcs to manage. 01:03:15.85 Kevin Um, yeah, it was um, it was it was difficult to try to manage them all. But in my hand but and but I I loved thinking on my feet and just trying to figure it out and you've obviously had ah you know more than one of these rodeo. 01:03:19.24 sidekqpodcast Sure yeah. 01:03:32.81 Kevin Ah, your first time. Yeah. 01:03:33.84 sidekqpodcast Yeah, you know with a hundred episodes. You kind of learn a thing or 2 yeah, but so ah, do you like that idea because I was going to ask before if they had a name for this place but I kind of liked how roosewoldt answered in character of like oh we don't really have a name for this place. Um, so it goes to give your ah your game a more worldbuilding idea. Maybe after how this side quest plays out they decide to come up with a name that's reflective with how the side quest was resolved. 01:04:00.83 Kevin Yeah, that that is a good idea. They're just yeah so far. It's pretty much so a pop up business with like you know you know they they didn't flesh everything out much like me so far. So. 01:04:13.81 sidekqpodcast Yeah I like to think like if you handle it very honorably and maybe you get the knolls to come back to pay themselves or you acquire the money. But you promise you didn't kill them like and you really truly didn't kill them. You know, maybe there's like a name for the place that they affix like some sort of. Honorific and that has to do with like nobility or being honorable or fair or something like that. But then if you're like more renegade and you just go slaughter a bunch of olds and come back with the money then maybe it's something more like you know violent sounding name. Like the hack and slash or or whatever they decide to call it and based on if you resolve it negatively if you will. 01:04:57.74 Kevin Yeah, um, yeah, things to think about I'm I'm leaning more towards the positive since so my pcs are probably gonna be like my kids. But yeah, oh yeah. 01:05:07.99 sidekqpodcast Okay, oh yeah, sure sure. But you you you never know kids can surprise you with ah they want to beat up the knolls. Maybe it's not ah like a violent they're dead. They just beat them up really badly and so then it's called you know then they name the place after like ah you know black eye Knolls or something like that. And it's like yeah because there's these knolls that try to run out on Us. We gave him a bunch of black Eyes. So there you go which almost sounds like the restaurant black eyed peas which you know could also be a very fun play on words. 01:05:28.90 Kevin Yeah, yeah, good it. 01:05:38.11 sidekqpodcast Then ah then fin Wheatley decides to expand the menu and offer up black eyed peas for people to eat along with turkey legs. Oh that's what I do I give away great ideas for free. So all right? But yeah as we're starting to get into the final. 01:05:44.45 Kevin You know all great ideas. Yeah thank you. 01:05:56.23 sidekqpodcast Thoughts segment of the show. What did you think of your time on the podcast your experience with your 15 minutes of fame as it were so. 01:06:03.95 Kevin Oh yeah, this has been great. Um I was able to bring a bring some ideas and just more fully flesh it out just like talk it through with you and just like it's been super helpful and I also just I love just being able to. 01:06:21.26 Kevin Interact with role-playing games again since I've was probably gone from the hobby for like a decade. 01:06:26.77 sidekqpodcast Yeah, so you think this will be an approach that you'll use in the future when you're world building or inventing characters for your games whether they're going to be for friends your age or maybe perhaps your children or. 01:06:41.64 Kevin Yeah, no I Definitely um I'm definitely going to like save some of the questions and just kind of think through them then maybe I'll I'll grab a friend and just be like hey like let's try to. Um. 01:06:50.61 sidekqpodcast Yeah, especially if someone's coming up with a character backstory. You might probe them with some of these questions to kind of ask more details about like the person in their backstory and then you can flesh out like a whole quest line with them and stuff like that. 01:07:07.33 Kevin Yeah, well thank you so much. 01:07:12.50 sidekqpodcast Oh of course. Yeah and before you know we end every episode we like to turn the microphone the stage the soapbox the platform over to the guests. So if you want to be found online because I do respect people's privacy. Ah, where can we find you online. Are there any other projects or things that you work on that you're passionate about that you want us to know about are there any causes or anything that you want us to be made aware of. 01:07:38.36 Kevin Um I wish like um, but right now I'm more of just like ah a busy dad and just getting through life and this is 1 thing that's brought a little bit more enjoyment back with ah and a great way to spend time with my kids. If anyone wants to reach out about any of the topics that I mentioned I'm interested in you can you can probably find me on Facebook or telegram my handle on telegram is ah at phantom watchdog which um for anyone who. No one would know this but I was as an icebreaker I was presented with the idea of like what would your superhero name be and so that's the one I came up with so it's kind of like um as kind of inspired by Danny Phantom I don't know if you remember that tv show like maybe. 01:08:22.18 sidekqpodcast Okay. 01:08:29.43 sidekqpodcast Oh yeah, yeah, yale. 01:08:34.80 Kevin Probably like years ago at this point and a cross between that and there was I don't remember the spell there was a spell in third edition that was like um I don't remember what it's called is like you have like this dog that like a magical dog that like keeps watch over your party if they're resting and that the name. 01:08:50.63 sidekqpodcast Mm that sounds like a really cool and useful spell. Yeah. 01:08:53.30 Kevin Escapes me right now, but it was kind of a mashup between those. Yeah oh maybe it's not in fifth I imagined it was I know it was not in second. But I'd have to look it up at some point but there was ah a useful so spell where you know you just had this magical dog that can like. Is essentially a guard dog that like um, that was ah a spell that kept your party safe while you know so no one could sneak up on you? Yeah, so anyways, that's ah um, the phantom watched at phantom. 01:09:12.65 sidekqpodcast Mm. 01:09:22.41 sidekqpodcast That's pretty cool. Okay. 01:09:29.82 Kevin Dash watchdog on telegram. But I'm not really on Instagram or anything or I don't really have a website but if anyone wants reach out that's me. 01:09:42.16 sidekqpodcast Very cool. Well hopefully between now and the next one hundred episodes it'll be before I'm back around and hopefully having you on for round 2 um, you know we'll get an update and maybe you'll do like a red worm. Does on Twitter and and Instagram and stuff like that and ah have ah your sons. Um your children. Ah you know giving you dm advice and like all sorts of other things and it's like oh these kids are natural born dungeon masters and so then you've built like a whole. Social anonymous social media thing behind their ideas and stuff like that. 01:10:17.26 Kevin Yeah, no though that would be interesting here. 01:10:23.82 sidekqpodcast You know you know it's good I Good to listen to the ideas of others and kids have some really great interesting ideas that ah you know because they're so young and free and they don't have ah. You know blinders and you know as far as like what are expectations and stuff like that they can come up with the truly unexpected and wonderful surprises of Life. So. 01:10:43.61 Kevin Yeah, and I can't even remember I remember um what I can't remember what it exactly was but I remember like we were going through an adventure module and like my son like came up with like an idea that I would have never thought about just because yeah, he doesn't have those. Ah. Blinders and he's not like um, he's not inhibited by like knowing what the the rules are so he just thinks very creatively to approach problems. 01:11:11.58 sidekqpodcast Awesome! Well Kevin it was awesome to have you on the podcast I'm glad you reached out and wanted to be a guest on the show I'm glad we can make that happen and can't wait to be speaking to you again in the future and making even more truly random npcs. 01:11:29.37 Kevin Thank you have a good night Kurt. It was a pleasure to. 01:11:33.63 sidekqpodcast All right? So we'll stop the recording there.