Austin Price: The calendar is turned to March, but Vol Club Confidential, brought to you by Knoxville Smiles, rolls on tonight on the show we've got the Gaines, both coach Justin and Player Jordan, but before then we bring in Brandon Spurlock of the volunteer club. Brandon, we got Kentucky coming up this weekend, and then the SEC tournament next weekend where everything kind of gets revved up for March, starting this weekend with the cats. And then of course Barstool will be the main headquarters for the volunteer club over in Nashville. That's Brandon Spurlock: Right. Yeah. We are hoping that we can finish it off here and be playing, not start playing until Friday. So we got baseball in full swing here and coming into the tournament. Nashville is always a great time and our friends at Barstool have really been gracious here for, I guess going on a year now, starting back to the first football game down there. So having a nice home landing spot kind of right outside the arena. Definitely looking forward to that. Austin Price: A lot going on with the volunteer club, merchandise, new merchandise, all that. That's easy to talk about as a fan. For you though, the Kentucky game's got to be pretty big, right? I think Brandon Spurlock: So. I think growing up in Nashville and being in the state, and I think of all the sports, I mean it's great to beat certain teams in football, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, things like that. But given the tradition of Kentucky, when you beat Kentucky, especially at their place, I think as Avol fan and Rick's record kind of speaks for itself given the history that we have there, that's pretty special. And I would put it right up there personally to wins against those football teams that we mentioned. So hopefully we can finish that off and finish strong and roll it into the tournament. Yeah, Austin Price: Rick's record against Kentucky has been flat out spectacular compared to every other coach that's come through here through the years. He is Brandon Spurlock. I'm Austin Price. Now let's hear from our great friends, Dr. Malone. Dr. Costa at Knoxville Smiles. The folks at Knoxville Smiles would like to invite you to visit their website@knoxvillesmiles.com to meet their amazing team and learn about their incredible services they provide in their state of the art facility. I asked you before we got going, had you ever coached Jordan in a game coach? And you said no, you, you'd never coached him growing up, you'd watched him but never coached him. And so what's this year been like for the two of you? Speaker 4: For me, it's just been a learning experience. I've never coached him before, never coached any of my kids, Jason and obviously Jackson, but never coached him before, worked out, spent time on the court, and so it is different. It is unique and it's fun. I'm learning every day, and as I did when I used to work out with him, I would learn what worked and what didn't work, what approach worked, what didn't work. So it's just a learning process, but it is been fun, wouldn't trade it for the world. It's been a great experience and just to be able to be around him every day as he goes through this journey. Austin Price: What's it been like for you? Speaker 4: I'd say it's been pretty cool. It's like once in a lifetime experience. Not many people really get to experience being coached by their dad, and I just get to really take it in every single day. I treat it like business whenever we're on the court as he's my coach, and then whenever I'm at home, he's still my dad and we still have those conversations every day, after every game, after every practice on how we're doing and what my thoughts are on what's going on, and just really everything, just keeping it natural from a player and coach standpoint. Austin Price: So even ke, do you think that helps you when you're coaching your own son a little bit, whether it's good, bad, whatever, you just don't say or seem like you almost flat line over there on the bench? Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. I think it helps and inside I'm a rollercoaster, you know what I mean? I'm a rollercoaster, I'm up and down and I'm, but I try to give the perception of being even killed. I've always been that way when I was a player and all through my coaching career because at the end of the day with your players, you never want to want them to see you get too high, get too low, and you kind of want 'em to see kind of the same thing. And there'll be times where you show your emotion, you really express your feelings. But for the most part, I think just from my coaching experience, that the guys, they benefit more off of an even keel feel at times. Austin Price: How much do you have to hear about dad's plan days? I mean, is he ever quick to pull out a picture or a clip and go, I did this pretty well back at NC State back in the day Speaker 4: Here and there, he goes back and forth with Z just about every day about, Austin Price: I bet you do think everybody goes back and forth with him about something. Speaker 4: You always going back and forth with him about how Z can't guard him, and they're just always going at it playing one-on-one here and there. But back in the day, I definitely used to hear about it quite a bit, watch some of his games, watch him play into Clemson, play him at Duke. And the one I really remember is one at the NIT. He had a pretty big game in that game. Austin Price: Now you started your career at USC upstate and had a really nice run over there. What was that experience like? Speaker 4: It was a great experience ever since I stepped it on campus there until I left. The guys were great. The coaching staff was great and I wouldn't really trade it for anything else, but it was just all around a great experience. I loved the school and loved just the community around it and just the vibe that I had around with everyone and the connections that I made with Austin Price: Everybody. And you had the opportunity to come here, what were the emotions like with the chance to reunite the family all in one place? Speaker 4: It was hard at first because leaving that school, like I said, there was a lot of connections I had, but I knew what was best for me. And then just being able to come back home is just amazing. I get to be 15 minutes from my house, get to see my mom and brothers, get to go see my brother Jason, go play high school basketball. And this is the first year I really get to see him play like that. And it's just something special that I get to take in every single day. Austin Price: You enjoy being big, bro? Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. Because little Jackson, he's just always looking up to me and you see him just grow every single day. He starts saying things that you didn't know he knew, and it's just awesome, just awesome Austin Price: Coach for you to watch him mature and grow, not just as a player, but as a big brother in this instance that take pride in going to watch little brothers play basketball as a dad. What's that? Speaker 4: It's great. It's an amazing feeling and we've always been a tight-knit family. Had to just because of my career, my path, the journey that has taken us from being, man, we started out in Raleigh, North Carolina when I was assistant director of basketball operations at NC State. And I mean, it took us from there to the Midwest and Milwaukee to West coast out in California, to Arizona back here. So we found ourselves moving around a lot and having deep rooted friendships with people in those areas was tough. And so when we got there, it was pretty much us. And so we've always been tight knit. And so for him to be able to be a part of his brother's lives and this close, not that if he was somewhere else that he wouldn't be, but for him to be able to experience being at their high school games, they were at his, and for them to be able to see all of his games, it is great. And for me, it just makes me proud to be able to see the big brother that he's becoming and he looks out for those guys and shares his wisdom on 'em. And especially with Jason who's kind of going through that high school journey right now. He's a sophomore, a junior at Knoxville Catholic, and he's dealt with playing good sometimes not playing good, playing a lot, not playing a lot. And so it is been good for him to have his older brother to bounce things off of and him to share his journey with him too. Austin Price: So speaking of that, you go back to the start of the year and you're making everything, then you kind of go into a little funk and you're struggling to make things, but Coach Barnes kept saying, he's making him a practice, he's going to be fine. Then all of a sudden, boom, you have 1715 and you're making 'em again. How much do you learn from that kind of ebb and flow of just being a shooter? Right. I mean understanding some nights it's just not going to go in, but you got to keep shooting. Speaker 4: You learn a lot just from that. But the biggest thing is just sticking with sticking my routine really, and just staying confident throughout the whole process. And another thing is that my teammates, my teammates and all the coaches, they're great. They just kept pouring into me to make sure I'm staying confident and making sure I never lose that confidence. It just keeps you in the basketball and just knowing that I'm the player that I am and do what I did to get me here. And it's just great because everyone just has that confidence in me and I have the same confidence in everyone from the first person on the bench to the last person. Austin Price: Growing up, what were your most fond memories of playing basketball or learning basketball? Was it a basketball camp? Was it playing on a rec league team? When I just talk about what comes to mind, what triggers for you? Speaker 4: I'd say really just all the a u tournaments. All of those are just amazing because back then we'd wake up 8:00 AM got three games in a day and you're sitting in the gym going from one gym to another and just being able to be with the guys and just really just chill out, watch all the games that you've been playing has been amazing. That's probably something I do miss a lot. But then I'd say another moment is back in probably third grade, I was in Pey and I was the only guy out there with, I had a Carolina Blue shirt on that's started color our team and I had two arm sleeves on high socks, some shoes, and I just remember just going out there just shooting it and my shot looked nothing like it is today. I used to hold my left hand up as my follow through, but it would still go win. And then from that point on, I just continued it and then I had to get with my dad to change my shot a little bit and we just kept shooting it and things worked out. Austin Price: Carolina blew, huh? But that didn't sit too well in the Wolf Pack house. Speaker 4: No, he didn't say too much as long as I went out there and played, he was happy. Austin Price: What about you both as a player when I know we're taking it back even further years and then memories of him at that age? Speaker 4: Man, memories for me, and it's kind of the same for him, is I remember growing up and man, I was all the way through middle school to high school before school. Every morning I'd get up, my dad and I, we'd go to the park and we would go down and we'd get a workout in and I hated it, just hated it. And he made me get up, we'd be there at six o'clock in the morning, work out for an hour, go home, shower, and then I would go to school. Never really saw or understood what was going on, but then I remember one day in gym class and I was like, I didn't miss a shot and I was just great. And it made sense. It kind of clicked for me then. And instead of him waking me up, I was up early, I was ready to go and it made sense. And so when I think about Jordan, I think back to those days and it was like, I want to say he had to be in either eighth or ninth grade and we were in Milwaukee. It was eighth and ninth. Yeah, eighth and ninth. And we had a little hoop in the driveway and I remember us waking up and I had these bands attached on his legs. We were working on his shot and footwork and all of that stuff, but he'd be up with full sweats. So think about it, it's Milwaukee and you're talking about November, December, it was a cold months and we were up and we were just working on it again. It was only like a 15, 20 minute workout. And I just remember him not flinching and he could tell he didn't want to be out there, but he never really pushed back. And you started seeing his shot change and it grow and from the footwork to the follow through and all of that stuff. And I just remember that and his work ethic and then fast forward to seeing him in high school, in prep school and now that same work ethic being there. That's the memories that I have of him at an early age and just at Ken kind of carrying over. Austin Price: All right, so we're sponsored by Knoxville Smiles on Ball Club Confidential, so I'm going to ask this with every guest. What makes you smile, both of you? Speaker 4: I would say my family really. Anytime I see Jackson come up to me and be like, what's up, Jordan? What's up? It just makes me smile every single day, every single time. There's nothing that can beat it really. Yeah, I would say family. Our family, it makes me smile to see them happy to see them in a good place, healthy that. And that's all I can ask for. And so that makes me smile. Austin Price: Knoxville smiles.com Dr. Malone. Dr. Costa, great Cosmetic Dentistry. Let's check 'em out. Speaker 5: Hi, I am Dr. Steven Malone. People ask me all the time about digital technology and how it affects dentistry. We'd like to show you what that means here in the office. Dentists used to have technicians that they worked with everything analog. Today we do it all digital also, digital technology helps us with clear aligners so we can straighten your teeth here in the office. If we can help you with your dental needs, look us up@knoxvillesmiles.com. Austin Price: All right, we'll get the second portion of this interview. Started off with the question I asked everybody, and this is normally really good with basketball guys, and I have a feeling we're going to be divided, but we'll see Jordan or LeBron. Speaker 4: So I'm going to go Michael Jordan, but I'm really a Kobe guy, so I got to throw Kobe up there. There's going to go Kobe, Mike, and then LeBron, but Kobe and Mike are here and here. Austin Price: I'm with you. Speaker 4: Well, my answer, I named my first born after the goat, so you know who my answer is, Michael Jordan, every day of the week, Austin Price: We got our total back up Last week Speaker 4: You've been getting a lot of LeBrons or Austin Price: Well, but again though, you got to think about it. There're prisoners of the moment and they see 20 all star appearances and they see he's the all time leading score. Speaker 4: And I get it. I get it from Austin Price: His longevity is unbelievable. Speaker 4: Unbelievable. And if you're just looking at sheer career numbers, it's going to be hard to go against him. But we lived in it. When we watched it. Austin Price: He made you feel a certain way. It was different. You don't feel the same way with Speaker 4: LeBron. Austin Price: It was different. He doesn't make you feel the same way. Speaker 4: And LeBron's an amazing, I wish Austin Price: He did. Amazing guy. It's like Tiger. Tiger made you feel a certain way watching golf. I mean, Speaker 4: But I'm a Mike Guy. I'm a Mike Guy and I'm a Mike and Magic Johnson guy. Austin Price: That's what I was going to say. Take Mike away. I'm Speaker 4: Magic Johnson. I think he's the reason why I played basketball and just everything about him. He's a winner. Played the game the right way, did whatever was needed. Positions one through five did it with a smile. The game looked fun. Yeah, it did. He made it look fun. The pace played fast, had a little showtime with it. He was, I think Michael is the best. I think magic is my favorite. Austin Price: I think modern basketball has gotten more back to the eighties, you see more games ending one 40 to one 30. Now if you go to the nineties, the defense was so prominent games into 90 to 85 and stuff like that. You go back to the eighties. I mean a lot of those games, whether it was Nick and the Hawks or whoever, they got into the one twenties and one thirties a lot. Yeah. Don't you think it is kind of gotten more back to that? Yeah, Speaker 4: Yeah, it is. The pace is great. Freedom of movement. I remember it hit that stretch where you could hand check a guy all the way up to court. He just have your hand on his hip and guide him all the way down the court. But yeah, it is fun. It's fun to watch though. I like it. I like the offense of it. Obviously there's not a lot of defense being played out there, but just to watch the unique and different offensive schemes and the players nowadays are just, I mean they're unbelievable. The way shooting it from deep handling The Wimpy Kid from Santa, I mean it is going to be fun to see where the game goes. Austin Price: The all-star game was awful just because, I mean there was no defenses at all. Yeah, no defense. But Dame literally making two half court shots. It was shooting a normal three pointer was just like show how much what you're talking about, just how easy it is. Who do you look up to as far as game and that type of thing? Really Speaker 4: Kobe, I've watched him for a long time and just really watching all of his videos from what he does on talking on the podcast from all the film sessions that he does, he does a lot and really just talks about how his mentality is and how his work ethic is really what paid off in the long run. And that's something I've been trying to really get to. But having that Kobe work ethic is very hard. Austin Price: It is getting in the gym early, Speaker 4: Passing out in workouts, doing a lot, lot of crazy things. But at the end of the day it pays off. But I really look up to Kobe a lot. Austin Price: If Jordan Ganey was getting to plan the Gainey family vacation, what are we doing? Speaker 4: We're going Italy. We're going back to Italy. Back to Italy. Austin Price: So you enjoyed that trip? Speaker 4: Yeah, it was probably one of my favorite trips. Which city in Italy were we going to? Rome or Florence. Austin Price: What makes you say that though? Speaker 4: The scenery is amazing. The vibe is great. And then I'd say the shopping, they have all the stores you can think of all the fashion in the world. Austin Price: So last week we had Christian moron and he wants to be a clothes designer, and here you are going down that same road talking about the shopping and the clothes. Speaker 4: I'm really big into it. I like shopping. I just like fashion a lot. I really want to go to Milan one day and go to the fashion week out there. It's pretty good and pretty rare event that you really get to see, but it's amazing. Austin Price: I'm going to go He didn't get that from you? Speaker 4: No, no. And I can, there were moments when it was fashionable still here and there. I can sprinkle a little bit in there, but yeah, no, he does have a good fashion sense and good feel for it. And I know because his middle brother always asks him, Hey, what'd you think about this? What you think about that? Can you help me go find X, Y, Z? Because you know that little brother, he don't want to ask for help, but when he does, he really needs it. So I said, you must have got a pretty good eye Austin Price: Glue and all this has got to be mom, right? Speaker 4: Yeah. But she has some good style too. She be putting it on here and there. She asks me sometimes, but most of the time she knew what she doing. Austin Price: How much is that relationship? I mean, I know it's fun to play with dad, but to be able to have mom come to every game now to have mom make a home cooked meal if need be, how big is that? Speaker 4: It's really big. Even though when I was at Upstate, she would make some games when she could. Any game that close. Now she Austin Price: Makes every Speaker 4: Game. Yeah, now she makes every game. But it is amazing just to really see her just about two, three times a week, get to go home, eat a home-cooked milk. Even if it's my dad cooking or it's her cooking, whichever one, it doesn't really matter, but it's just being able to have that. It's just something special. Austin Price: If you're getting to pick the meal, what are they cooking? What's the go-to For Jordan Ganey, Speaker 4: I'm going to always say enchiladas. I'm going to go enchiladas. Or I'm asking 'em to cook some salmon and some mac and cheese and they can pick the green. They can pick the greens. I don't really matter to me. Austin Price: What are we cooking? Speaker 4: Ooh, I think last time you did, she had mom cooked some wings. She cooked wings. Wings. But the mac and cheese is highly requested. That's my deal right there. My world famous mac and cheese. And then I'd probably do something on the grill, whether it's some salmon or some type of chicken or something like that. Usually throw something on the grill Austin Price: When you go to S Smokey's. Yeah. What's the go-to at S Smokey's? Speaker 4: You talking about S Smokey's on campus? Smokey's Boy, I tell you what, somebody must have told you that's my favorite place. Austin Price: No, they did not. I love Speaker 4: Smokey's. I love it. Maybe my favorite restaurant in Knoxville. You get so much variety, you know what I mean? Sure. I agree with that. You get in there and I got to be careful at lunch because I mean, I'll bunker down in there, man. I'll take my computer and then I'll just go get seconds and thirds and the yogurt at the little deal. I couldn't tell you. My gut, it changes every day. So I'm a pescatarian, so I only eat seafood as far as the protein goes. Austin Price: This is two and three weeks. We had James Pierce who he's Speaker 4: A pescatarian as well. Austin Price: Yes. Speaker 4: So whatever the fish of the day is, whether it's yesterday day before yesterday, I had catfish, I had that some black and catfish, but whatever the seafood is, maybe some shrimp, something like that. That's what I go with and then kind of figure it out for them. Austin Price: The goat candy bar is what Speaker 4: Kit Kat? The goat candy bar is a Twix. Austin Price: I can't disagree with either one of your answers. Twix, kit Kat, that'd be my top three all time. Yeah, Speaker 4: Put it in the fridge. Austin Price: Twix and Kit Kat. Yes. The Reese's. No, I want the peanut butter not to be cold. I don't want it to be hard. Okay. I love the seasons though. Like the eggs, the hearts. Speaker 4: I like the Reese's too. I like the little ones from Trader Joe and Little. Those was a good Austin Price: One. Place you've never been. You'd like to go to Speaker 4: Greece. I want to go to Greece. Austin Price: You're just wanting to be overseas. Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'll say Wyoming too. It's Austin Price: Weird. Yellowstone. Yeah, Speaker 4: It was weird, but I definitely want to go out there too. That'd be interesting. I think Austin Price: You Speaker 4: Place I've never been that. I want to go, man, that's a good one. I want to go to Africa. Never been Austin Price: Safaris. Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to do it all again. I want to go to Egypt. I want to see the pyramids, I want to see the finks, all of that stuff. I like to go to the Cameroon. My aunt did this ancestral.com deal where she submit the blood work. And so it comes to find out we originated from the camera room area, so I'd love to go over there just to see that. Love to go see Nigeria as well. And then go check out South Africa. So I want to kind of bounce around a little bit, but in general just I want to go to Africa one Austin Price: Time. I can figure on that. I'd love to go to Africa, Europe, Africa. I'd really like to go to Antarctica. I'd love just to see I've gotten big into the wildlife experiences. Yellowstone fantastic for that. Go well watching. But I'd love to just go down there and just see the wildlife on the South Pole. Go down Antarctica and go down that way just to just be different. Right. I feel you on that. Let's see. What are you most proud of whether coaching career, playing career? Speaker 4: For me, I'm most proud of my family and the fact that they care about each other and that they're as close knit as they are. And it doesn't mean that we always get along. Austin Price: Nobody always gets along. But yes. Speaker 4: But it makes me proud to see them all doing well, all Austin Price: Caring about each other, Speaker 4: Caring about each other and love to be around each other. And that makes me feel good. It does and that makes me proud. And I think Jordan and Jason as young men at 21 and 17 that I think they got bright futures and they've been exposed to a lot and it makes me proud to see how they treat each other, how they treat their younger brother and then more importantly how they treat mom. And so that makes me really proud. If Austin Price: I set the racks up, we did an NBA three point contest. Who's winning this? Jordan or Justin? Speaker 4: I'm winning right now. Yeah, winning. I'm winning. Austin Price: If I set up, Speaker 4: If I was in college, he could outshoot me. But my jumper, your jumpers approved. It's like wine. It's like a fine wine. I get better with time. Austin Price: If I gave you a hundred free throws, who's making the most? Speaker 4: That's still me. I would beg the difference. That's me. Yeah, I went 92 for a hundred over the summer. Austin Price: Do you have any rebuttal there? Speaker 4: I don't. I don't. But I think I could make 95 out of a hundred. Austin Price: We may get this on video. Oh, Speaker 4: We going to get it on video. We got it. We can do it. We can. Absolutely. Austin Price: This is peak competitiveness right here. Kind of like when we had a Waka and Z in here a few weeks ago, it didn't matter what they were talking about, it was like a constant needling of each other. Does it ever surprise you just how much confidence this team plays with at times? I mean whether it's you or Dalton or Z's the ultimate confident kid, right? I mean there's just a confidence over there. Even if things aren't going great at the particular time, it never feels like there's panic. Speaker 4: I would say no because the way we go at it at each other and practice every single day sets the tone. It sets the tone. It's like we're going against ourselves. We are probably one of the better, best defensive teams in the country. And you got Zaka, you got Jamiah Maha, you got as Santi, you got Josiah, then you got two big guys at the Rim, Jonas and Tobe. And to get past those perimeter defenders is already hard enough and then to finish at the rim is very hard. And whenever you can do that at a consistent level, you have that uber confidence that you need to go out there in the game and perform it the way that Austin Price: You do. You're coming in off the bench. How do you approach that? You know what I mean? Sometimes you may be in two minutes into the game, sometimes it may be six minutes into the game. I mean, how do you approach that to try to come in and be Tennessee's version of Vinny Johnson? Do you know who Vinny Johnson is? Speaker 4: No. Austin Price: Your dad wouldn't not have any. Johnson the microwave baby Speaker 4: Played for Detroit Pi. Austin Price: That's right. How do you approach Speaker 4: The bench? He probably like a little wheel or something like that. But it's a quote that my dad tells me just about once a week. It's just control what you can control. And I just go out there with that mindset and not to get too frustrated about whether my first shot is a miss and just really go with the flow of the game. Don't force too much. And when the ball comes to me make a play. If it doesn't get a swinging and I know that I'm going to get into my rhythm one way or another, if I get to the freeze line, go ahead and knock 'em down and we can get it started from there. If I have open three, just knock it down, lock in. You got to lock in extra hard and make sure that that shot is good. But being able to just control what you control just really frees up your mind and just lets you be in one spot and just in the game and just be able to flow just perfectly. Austin Price: You got senior day coming up for some guys as a teammate, how much do you kind of look up to those older guys that are going to play their last game and then as a coach, how much do you appreciate what they've done for the program? Speaker 4: I look up to 'em a lot because a lot of guys like Santi and Joe have been here for five years. They've been going, they've gone through it all. They've been high, they've been low. And just being able to stick through it just shows a lot. And then even with dk, he's been in it for five years. He started at JUCO and just being able to finish his career at such a high level is just going to be amazing. It's just going to be amazing to see them go out there for their last time at TBA or Food City center and just enjoy it, embrace everything and play high level basketball From a coach's standpoint, it's just appreciation, ultimate appreciation because what these guys go through throughout their careers, whether you're four years, five years, whether you're a starter, not a starter. I mean it's amazing and people don't really see the hard work that goes into what shows up on the court. And you think about it, the season ends for every, well, if you win at all, right first weekend in April and you starting back workouts probably that next weekend or the weekend afterwards, you back into it training for your first game on November whatever 13th or 23rd, whatever that is in mid to late November. So you're talking about all of those months where you're eating, right? You are training lifting three to four times a week, you're on the court working, you're conditioning all the work that goes in to play 30 plus games and you do that year after year after year after year. And for those guys, especially Joe and Santi who've been here for five years, but also dk, those guys have been through it for a long time. And so it's just like the ultimate appreciation and just making sure, hey man, we don't take you or what you've done for granted because it is a lot. And at any time you could have said, man, this is just too much. I'm done. Whether it's those hard film sessions, whether it's the tough lift, whether it's things as far as curfew and eating right, all of that stuff, man. And it is a grind. It really is a grind. Not to mention you still go to class and you still got all of those things that are going on and so you appreciate 'em. And with Joe and Santi being here, they've been through the ups, they've been through the downs, they've been through the good times and they've always been there for when it's not been so good. And they've weathered the storm and I think they've laid a great foundation for this current group that we have moving forward. And I think those guys could look back and say, man, we left it better than we got it. And so I, it'll be happy for those guys. I'm glad they decided to come back, but we will be happy for 'em on senior day. But we still got unfinished business that we want to send them out the right way. That's not it. They didn't come back just to have that senior day. One more time. We trying to take them to places where they haven't been and I know that's their goal too. Austin Price: So last thing we'll get you out of here. You guys, the shelf life for dad and son, it's forever. But for coach and player there's an expiration date. How much do you soak up the next little over a year together and what are you looking forward to most? Speaker 4: I would say I soak up every day. Really. I know I won't get these days back and it's just something very special to me. And I know I got another year and to do the same thing, but every single day is important to me and something I'm really just looking forward to is just being able to grow. Being able to grow as a connection with my dad and just grow as a player on the court. I know he's always going to try to push me to be the best player that I can be. Yeah, I try to soak it up just by bringing it every day, giving him everything I got him and team for the team because I don't ever want to look back on this experience and say, golly, I wish I would've wish Austin Price: I'd done that. Speaker 4: I wish I'd have pushed him hard. I wish I would've got out of the comfort zone. I wish I would've just did something a different way. And so I try to every day be as prepared as I possibly can be and try to push all of our guys as hard as we can because look, I've been doing this for a long time. This is like year 20 for me, 1920. This is the best group of guys I've ever been around. And that's no knock on the other places I've been. But when I look at the talent, when I look at the depth, when I look at the experience, this group kind of has it all. And I feel like we got a chance to do something really, really, really special. And it is not just because my son too, but I want to leave it all out there. We ask those guys to leave it all out on the court. I want to do that every day. And whether that's coaching them hard, whether it's spending more time building relationships, whether it's having guys over to the house, whatever it is, I want to give everything I got towards it. And so I think that's how I soak it in. And so when I look back on that time, we'll be able to look back and say, man, we won national championship, we did something big, we made it to the final four, we won it all. And that'll be the greatest soak up and being able to look back and reflect on it that there could be. Austin Price: Well guys, we appreciate the time and good luck the rest of the way and father son relationship will only get better and I love that you like being big brother. I think that's big time. Yes sir. Speaker 4: Yes sir. Thank you. Hey, relationship could go sour after I beat him in this three point shooting contest. Though it won't happen. It may get a make it a little. So we may come back on the pod and I Austin Price: Actually think I'd take dad, unless we're doing a true NBA and he's timed, not sure you're going to be in better shape than him. So going rack to rack, I think he would straighten by the time we get to the third rack it may, Speaker 4: If I get more time, it's just worse for him because then I'm more comfortable. I can take my time on each one. I'm good. I do feel good about the free throw line though. Maybe not the NBA three but the free throw line. I think I can make a push on that one. Austin Price: I actually agree with it. Speaker 4: Muscle memory, you know what I mean? 46 years to 21 Austin Price: Years. I like the confidence. I like it to ganeys. What an episode of Confidential. We'll see you next week everybody.