Austin: Hello friends, and welcome in for another episode of Vol Club Confidential. I'm your host Austin Price of VolQuest.com. Tennessee's basketball team, an amazing run, comes up short of getting to Houston, but still a special, special season for Rick Barnes and the basketball Vols. We'll talk more about that in the weeks to come. But coming up on tonight's show, we've got the Herring Brothers, Elijah, and Caleb, as they get set for their sophomore and freshman campaigns already in the midst of spring practice. We'll talk to them coming up. But first, let's bring in Aspyre CEO James Claussen. James, you were up in New York for the Sweet 16 Elite Eight. You had the chance to meet with some different companies. That Tennessee brand still carries a lot of weight. Yeah, absolutely. James: Hey, Austin. First of all, congratulations to the basketball team. Great season. Had a great time in New York. Like Austin said, we did meet with a lot of brands, whether it's French's, whether it's some national ad agencies that control what brands work with what players. I know Tennessee's not had the success everybody's wanted in football, especially over the last decade. But when you go and you talk about the Tennessee brand and you talk about the athletes on this roster, they move the needle. And you can see it with TV audiences and how many people tune in and and different things like that, But I think fans should know that Tennessee's a major brand and you know, our players are gonna have national deals. Austin: Fans also moved the needle and Tennessee's passionate fan base just you know carries its weight and then some When you look at the Volunteer Club It's built such a nice community and I know you have some things planned for the spring game coming up on April 15th. What can fans expect for the orange and white game? James: Yeah, they can expect the Big Tailgate, so we're really excited to do that. It should be a permanent spot and that will move from you know spring to the fall so we should have a permanent location you know moving forward. It should be just a lot of fun you know hopefully we'll see some of the people that we saw all fall. I hope we'll see a lot of new faces too, so we've obviously grown a lot since the last home game. Austin: That's right. I'll be there. April 15th. Come see me. Who knows who else from the VolQuest community will show up. James: Worth the price of admission. Austin: Yeah, buddy. Exactly. Come and hang out with me. Ask recruiting questions. Let's get to the marquee additions for tonight's show. That being the Herring brothers Elijah and Caleb Austin: How are you? Brothers: Good. Austin: Guys, you've been without each other for the last year. You all were inseparable since Caleb came along. And then this past year, you were up here, and you were still down at Riverdale. How hard was the last year, not being with each other every day? Elijah: I'd say it was kind of a struggle. I mean, being with him every single day. I mean, we did everything together. We did. We worked out together. We trained, played, everything. It was weird at first, but that's just life. Sometimes you're going to go without the person that you see every single day. So, at first it was weird. It was a tough adjustment. But once that second month hit, second, third month, I was like, all right, this is just regular. Caleb: And at Riverdale last year, once he had left, it was tough at first. Then not having him around, because I was used to him like leanness and so, but I said like I said about two weeks Two weeks past That's I caught myself starting step up in that leader role man. Yeah, from then. I just took over Austin: I said the whole time as soon as Caleb gets back to Elijah, Caleb's gonna take off cuz he ain't getting put on a ton of weight your senior year. You got here at 206. Now you're like 230. They threw it on you in like six weeks. Caleb: No, it was crazy. I wasn't expecting to put on this much weight. But yeah, Ethan, he really helped me get my weight up. He told me the type of things to eat. And like, I remember that, yeah, Tennessee, it's like they don't really tell you what to eat. It's like they're making it your responsibility to go down to Smokies and like just make it your responsibility to put on the weight. A: How much did having him back around help you though? Just kind of, I mean, I'm not saying like you were distracted, but at the same time, you didn't have that kind of old reliable guy that was kind of in your ear saying- E: Yeah, didn’t have big brother. Caleb: Yeah, cuz at Riverdale, it was like Riverdale, I mean, the coaches and players there were always tough on me. But at the same time, I needed that person that would push me and not be like a yes guy. People there always say I'm doing the right thing, but he would notice the little things and tell me I need to do better. 0:05:03 A: How much have you enjoyed the last six weeks? And at the same time, also understanding Miss Tiffany, your mom, no longer has you all at the house. So, I mean like, you know, you both are gone. So, it's nice, but it's also probably pretty little hard to be away from mom to a degree. E: Yeah, it's a struggle for me, because I feel like I'm a mom's boy, but I feel like I'm also a dad's kid too. But yeah, it's just a struggle, like, because you always thinking about them, like what they doing, like are they safe, their whereabouts and stuff like that but I just feel like we just got to get used to it. C: And having him around, I said the first two weeks, the first two weeks were tough man I was homesick. I just wanted to go back home. I haven't yet gotten him to take me back home. This, yeah actually just having him around really helped me get adjusted because like since everybody knew him, they knew who I was, so everybody took me in as their family. Once I got away from my mom. 0:06:08 A: When did you both realize you could play football at this level? E: Well, personally, I've been known, I've known since I was like, since middle school, since sixth grade. Because that's when stuff really started going up. That's when I had probably one of my best years of football in the rec league. So, after that, I was like, yeah, I can go to the league. I can, I can, I can do something like this, but I noticed that he could go to the league. It's his eighth-grade year. Cause he just grew so much in so much small time with little to no training. It was crazy. I was like, yeah, he going to be something special. C: And yeah, going back to, yeah, his rec league, man, that was, it was crazy, cause I remember like … A: Defensivley? Offensively? Cause you kind of like both sides of the ball. E: Yeah, I had an X on the back of my helmet. So that mean I had to be O lineman or D line. So I had to cause havoc on them. Caleb: Then somebody says it made it illegal for him to play DN, So they like made him like moving the tackle and like nose tackle and stuff, but it was crazy. And then, yeah, like going back to what he said about me, like, what were we talking about? Going back to knowing when I can actually play football. I would say, yeah, just eighth grade, because yeah, seventh grade, I was terrible. Elijah: He started off as corner. He was playing corner. Caleb: Yeah, I was corner. It was bad. Elijah: Terrible footwork. C: And then, yeah, eighth grade, I took, yeah, I ended up getting the defensive player of the year from my middle school. And then I say, yeah, ninth grade, that's probably when I really like took off, like started noticing I can play football, and that's actually when I got my first offer too. A: Tennessee, they started recruiting both of you guys, but I remember when this current staff got here. E: Yeah, they was on you on it hard. Austin: They got on you hard. E: Yes. 0:08:04 A: And they turned the heat up on you pretty quick. And I remember getting a call and they were like, hey, how tall are you? Because they were watching a video that you and I did. It was back that summer, first summer of COVID. And you got together with, you know, Dowling and Cam and a bunch of those guys in Nashville with Banks. Elijah: Yes, sir. Austin: And you and I did that video interview and they were trying to judge how tall you are based off of me. You know, and so all of a sudden they're like, oh, you're that tall. And you can see how much bigger you were than I was, at least height-wise. I've got the gut, you don't. But either way, they started turning the heat up on you. When did you kind of know or notice, like, man, they're making it hard and I really kind of want to go there? Elijah: It was really, what, that was junior year? Junior year going into senior year. Austin: Yeah, going into senior year, yeah, E: it was probably like the beginning of the season They would text almost every day cuz BJ would call coach Ech would call. We'll talk to coach Hyp and them just almost every single day of the week. Then they would come down to visit then I knew I was coming here after my official. That that was probably the best week I had up here. It was it was just great. Everybody showed love. It was great. So yeah, I want to say the beginning of senior year I knew I was going to come. Austin: And then once he got here you everybody just de facto, oh he's going to and so like then you've got a battle that right like you want to be your own guy. Caleb: Yeah. Austin: You want to have your own recruitment. How did how hard was that because everybody just assumes you're going to go here because of your older brother and even if you like Tennessee you don't want to give it too much credence because everybody just automatically assumes. Caleb: Yeah, cuz I yeah I wanted to do like kind of do my own thing at the time. I said I begin my Yes, or not. So after my junior or not, I was doing Austin: Yeah, it was before your before you're junior when he committed Caleb: Yeah before yeah, but it was a like when he committed himself Like when you're committing yourself, people would just blow my phone up saying, yeah, Caleb, it's your turn now. But yeah, they're kind of making it hard for my recruitment to blow up, blow up. And I was like, dang. Austin: You got a bunch of schools that didn't offer, that would have offered, that they just assumed again that you were going to go here because of Big Brother. Elijah: Yeah, they had that crystal ball. Caleb: Yeah. And then your spring ball, your spring ball arrived. And then that's where my recruitment really blew up. So dang, like coaches there called me left and right, left and right. And like with Tennessee, like the only difference with Tennessee is like they didn’t want to talk to me about like football, they actually talk about family. And like family is huge when it comes to like, recruitment and stuff. And this, like seeing seeing like how the coaches were and stuff, and see how the players were too, and how they brought Elijah in, that's what made me commit. 0:10:52 Austin: How much do you hate the crystal ball? Elijah: Man, the crystal ball Caleb: if I'm being real, I do not like it. Austin: Do most prospects not like it? Caleb: Yeah, a lot of prospects don't like it. They kind of give it away. Austin: Yeah, I don't like it either. Kind of take me through your relationship, what do you most admire most about Elijah and vice versa? Caleb: I'll say this is how he pushes me and then how sometimes it's like he knows when to be serious but at the same time he knows like we can play around at the same time. But just seeing how he's changed as a character, seeing how much he's matured and from his senior to freshman year last year, it was crazy. But just seeing how he grows and how serious he takes the game. Elijah: Caleb, he can just, he, the way he takes coaching, it's a weird way. It's like, I used to coach him up back in high school, like tell him what to do and stuff. He would get mad at me, but he would also like, he would do it. He would do it. He'd listen. I'd be like, all right. So he listened to me and then just how he just works. I mean he are working He he knows the little details I mean he's been knowing how to do pass rush for for a minute, and he just He loves the games like every time I'm seeing him. He's either watching film or when we was driving back from Atlanta from spring break he had his notebooks on his lap just studying the playbook I'm like yeah, he's trying to he's trying to get there, but that's why I like I love about him. He just wants to get better and better each and every day. Austin: Elijah, and not that Caleb's not because he is, but Elijah is one of the most like mature well-spoken guys I've ever encountered in recruiting. But between the white lines, a trash talker and fierce and to the point that I had a coach call me last year early in the year and they said, “man like Elijah is just such a nice well-mannered kid, but he went down the first game on kickoff, and I was like who is that kid?” Elijah: BJ be telling me, he'd be like, you gotta switch it as soon as you go through them white lines. You got people trying to take everything from you. You gotta be able to know how to switch it on and switch it back off. I don't like to show that side. I like to keep it peaceful around everybody, show love to everybody. Austin: When did you realize you had that ability to turn it on and turn it off? Caleb: You can have that for a minute. Elijah: Yeah, I feel like I've been able to do it since, literally. Because, I mean, my dad made me into a trash talker. Because one time, I used to be soft. I used to be really soft because I was bigger than everybody. I didn't want to hurt anybody. Caleb: He would call you up. Elijah: Yeah, he would call me up. He'd fuss at me on the field. I'm over there crying. And then one day, I was like pumping, man. Threw a kid out the way, made a tackle. And ever since then, I've just been like that. But I'ma switch it on and switch it off. Cause my mom, she brings out that like soft side and she makes sure everybody's taken care of and stuff and our dad, the provider of course, so he just brings out that grind and be able to get yours and be able to work for it. Austin: What's Miss Tiffany mean to you guys? Caleb: Man, that's uh... She's the hardest worker I've ever been around. Elijah: If there's no way, she's going to find a way to make something happen. Any type of way, I mean. She... I don't know, words can't explain it. She's just everything, man. Caleb: She's always there for you. Elijah: Yeah, she... if you've got to talk about something, she's like the only person I can talk to about anything. If you've got to talk to her about something, I'm going to talk to her. If I need something, I'm going to call her. She'll call out of nowhere. She'll come down. Man, she'll... If we were... I say if we were in New York right now and I told her that I needed her to come up, she'll bam, on the way. But yeah, she just... I want to say she really like... She really the glue to everything. Our dad, he just... He's able to hold it. So, she really keeps everybody together, keeps everybody in the right mind and stuff because you know mental health and stuff, everybody goes through that. She just keeps you going. Austin: So, if you text her right now and say we need “Toots”, she'll bring it? Elijah: Yeah. But we don't like them wet wings. Austin: You knew that was coming at some point Caleb. “Toots” is a place in Murfreesboro, and I love to go there when I go visit my sister-in-law and go eat. So, every time I would see the boys I'd say, did you bring me Toots? And Caleb would always have that kind of grin on his face like this is the dumbest guy I've ever met. Caleb: One day man. I know I always say that but one day. Austin: One day. When you're in the NFL you can just have it sent over. You can pay to have it sent over. Caleb: You can get a little sponsor from them. Austin: There you go. Take me through playing for BJ, playing for Rodney and Eck, and kind of the personalities that are on that defensive side of the staff. Elijah: You're playing for some real dudes who know the game and who know, they know how to push buttons, they know how to get you to that level that you want to get to, and they know exactly how to do it. They know how they tell you, so they start off every meeting with a life lesson talking about life. They'll talk to you about life for 30 minutes through the whole meeting. The meetings are like what an hour long? They talk to you about life for 30 minutes. Then the rest of the meeting they'll they coach you hard. Coach you hard, technique, everything. Like today I messed up. I didn't step with the back or something. He’ll say, “You gotta step with the back then get your eyes at the QB” and stuff like that. So, they gonna notice every single thing that you did wrong. And they gonna get on you about it. But I mean, at the end of the day, you can see that they care. Cuz, I mean, the day that they stop fussing at you, that's when you should start worrying cuz- I mean, it's over with then. They just done with you, they are throwing out the window. But I mean, they care about every single body on the team and they're going to make sure that you get to where you need to be. Caleb: Coach G, there's something I've learned, and players have been telling me, they say don't listen to the tone of his voice, just listen to the message. Because Coach G, he doesn't say it's cussing, it's his coaching language. That's what he calls it, his coaching language. You just got to listen to the message he's giving you because I'm in the way, like if you listen to his tone and like… Austin: You gonna think he's mad all the time. Caleb: man, yeah you don't think he's mad at 24/7 but no. he just gotta listen to the message and then the meetings and stuff he'll call it like he yeah he said he never gonna change for anybody ever because I mean that's just how he coaches but oh yeah meetings he'll call you out then like sometimes he'll like have you laughing a lot and uh like hilarious. Elijah: Funniest coaches I met in the world. Caleb: Yeah, just happy you just make you have fun Like they want you comfortable but at the same time getting better. And it's just yeah, this is what Elijah: the way they do stuff. They put you like the worst scenarios possible, so you just got a think-think-think to find the best way to get that situation. Austin: I've been saying all off-season, you know, you can count on Tennessee to score points. This program for it to take the next step has to have the Elijah Herrings, the Caleb Herrings, the Tyree West, the James Pierce, those young defensive guys. And you're just getting here, so less pressure on you than someone who's been here a year, to take a big step this offseason. Because if you all, you know, let's face it, that group is more talented than the guys that just left. But those guys were experienced and so they knew kind of where to be and that type of thing. But talent overtakes that eventually so if you guys mentally can start picking it up, then you know that's where you take the next step. Is that kind of how you feel yeah? Elijah: Yeah, most definitely because I mean I think all the freshmen, we were really, We just wanted to play so bad. We want it so bad I mean, which everybody does. but I mean, watching the older guys and like see how they did things, and see how like they were so technical about it. They was, they knew every little detail about it. And that just, that just made each and every one of us grow. So now when we are coaching the younger guys up, I mean, it's easy. We just going at it. So yeah, they made everything easier for us. And then the talent, we know we got the talent. We just got to make sure we are doing all the little things right. Austin: Who's the guy that's played just a little or someone who's new or a transfer that you're most like, that guy's going to help us this fall? Elijah: Let me see. I mean. Austin: So, it's either going to be somebody your age, a transfer, or somebody his age. Elijah: I think. Austin: Not named him. You can't say your brother. Elijah: The one that came in, um, on offensive or defense? Austin: Either. Who impresses you? Elijah: I think, uh, Dont’e. Dont’e impresses me. He, he, he a big dude. He's 6'5". He's on Caleb's size. He can run. But he can move like squirrels. He can, he got fast, twitching and everything. So Dont’e, uh, John Campbell, he, he, he seems like he's nice. Uh, who else came in? Gabe. I like, I like Gabe too. Gabe, uh, he’s real uh... fundamental you know he knows that the details and I like Keyton too. Keyton is my boy. Austin: Have you asked for marriage advice? Elijah: Nah, he didn’t give us no marriage advice yet, but I mean he seems like he enjoyed marriage a lot. Caleb: Yeah, he does. I haven’t really talked to him, but he seems like a great guy. Elijah: He’s a real cool dude. Austin: What about for you, who impresses you? Maybe an older guy that impresses you. Caleb: If I'm being real, because he's been teaching me everything. But I would say James. Just seeing all the knowledge, he has, because he knows everything. But just seeing all the things he has. Austin: Pearce? Caleb: Yeah, James Pearce. Seeing everything he has and seeing everything he's taught me. Cause like sometimes he may like text me or something, ask me like what I'm doing to check up on me. Then at times, like when we're in the film room and like everybody else leaves to like to go to class, he'll like, he'll like tell coach J, he'll be like, “man, we don't have anything to do.” So, we just watch extra film to like, just like go over the play, see what I know. But just yea James, he's taught me a lot and just see how much like seeing on like he's really twitchy and athletic. just seeing everything he's doing, it's amazing. and then like that whole Leo room has been teaching me a whole lot so. Elijah: The Leo's a freak. It’s position room for everything. They got guys 6’5 running 4 fours and jumping 30, 40 in verticals, things won't happen. Caleb: And it's like, the thing is, we're all young too, so we just gonna continue to get better. And then with, yeah, today, me and my cameraman coming in too, yeah, he's gonna be adding on to the room. Austin: Did you tell him to get ready to put weight on? Because I mean, he's smaller than you are. Caleb: Yeah. Austin: You always had the frame though. Like, I mean, that's one thing I, anytime somebody would talk to me about your weight, I'm like, I don't worry about him at all. His frame is, I mean, he'll throw on 35 pounds and still look like he does now. He's skinny mini over there. Caleb: Yeah, that's the thing. Yeah, Davin, yeah, Davin Hawes, like, he always talks about that. He always makes fun of me, but he calls me, he still calls me stick man. Because, like, I don't look, like, he said I look 205, but when he like, because, like, after lunch or so, after we eat, we always, like, we all go to the locker room and weigh ourselves. He's like, he's like, I can't believe it. He's like, I'm still gonna call you a stick man. Like the scale may say like 229 after we eat, 230. And then he just, he'll still call me stick man. But like he, it's like me and him, me and him get on, get on each other about our weights and stuff. Austin: So, you're pushing each other. Caleb: Yeah. Yes sir. And then, uh, yeah, Vysen, yeah, Vysen too. If I see a Vysen to we really big in on Vysen to about that cuz he likes to eat. we're telling him like if he gets his weight and stuff down like he he can help the team. He's just gotta He got to get that part down. Austin: Biggest character on this team is who? Elijah: Biggest character? Oh, I don’t know, you got a bunch of you got a bunch of different person different personality. Caleb: Don Slaughter. Elijah: Don Slaughter funny. I'd say my top three biggest personalities probably Tyre West. That's probably one of the funniest dudes on the team. Tyre West. Who else? Man, it's hard. It's hard. A lot of them jokers are funny. I want to say, I'll just say them two right now, because it's hard, because everybody in the locker room is hilarious. Yeah. No, I want to say Tyre West, Sprags, and Kamal. Yeah, Kamal. Kamal. I'm telling you; you get to know Kamal. Man. That joker is hilarious. Caleb: For real. Austin: Best rivalry for Riverdale is who? Is it Oakland or is it Blackman? Caleb: We'll say Blackman. We beat them, we don't like them at all. We beat them but we don't like them. If you beat them, they still talk trash. Elijah: If you went to Riverdale while we were there we hate Blackman more than we hate Oakland. Austin: Is that because you never could beat Oakman? Elijah: That's all it is. Oakland, yeah, they would talk trash on the field, but out there, they'd be cool. But Blackman… Caleb: They just keep it going. Elijah: That was a hate. That was a real deal of hate over there. Austin: And y'all were side by side in the lines. You can be from one school to the other in no time. Elijah: Yeah. It was like a what? 10-minute drive to play? Caleb: Like 15 minutes. Elijah: 15-minute drive. Austin: best local eat eating place in Murfreesboro is where? Caleb: Yeah, Metro Diner. Elijah: Yeah, Got the best chicken and waffles. Austin: Better than Clearview? Elijah: I never had it actually. Austin: are you kidding me right now? Elijah: I feel it’s better than First Watch now first one. Austin: Yeah, you guys like Koji Express? Caleb: that's a Metro Diners deal for me Austin: best uniform combination? Caleb: Well, I deal with that little that visit my last visit. Elijah: I like that black coat white, black on white. my best one was a Pat Summit. I like those with the blue. Caleb: Yeah, that that was nice Elijah: and the whole orange outfit. It was the best ones, but I don't think we're ever going to do them again. The best ones are all black to me. Caleb: I like, I ain't gonna lie, I like the, I like the, what's it called, smoky ones. Austin: Smoky gray? Caleb: Smoky gray. Oh yeah, those are nice. Elijah: We start up with them. For real. Smoky gray. Austin: When you boys were growing up, what did you guys enjoy doing? Not athletics. Caleb: play games, wrestle, Elijah: play games, ride bikes, go-karts, just be outside really. During the day, but when it came to night, we was on the game all night. We was some game heads, we liked Halo, Halo Black Ops, and what was the other one? And this snowboarding game. Caleb: Now going back to, yeah going back to being outside, remember what happened when I was going down the hill? Yeah, I was coming, yeah, my oldest brother, he was coming up the hill, like coming up there, coming up the hill on the side of the house. But I was like, yeah, he was coming up the hill. And then I was like going down the hill, like riding my bike. 0:27:04 Elijah: It was a steep ramp, it was a steep, our driveway was steep, it was like, went all the way down, so he was coming down full speed, and our brother, he was going up going up fast and they hit handlebars. Caleb: and I flew off Elijah: He flew off his bike landed on the ground so my mom she's like like she heard she heard like screaming somebody hit the ground Caleb: she thought of blood and stuff. she turned around and she didn't see like.. Elijah: she didn't see anything was wrong she did that that's what made her that would made her mad cuz she she expected something but see that he was all right and you know she just snapped the first nap all three of us I was sitting on the porch just chillin cuz they were… Austin: guilty by association! Elijah: so yeah cuz my mom and my aunt they was like doing something with the car and man she cussed at all of us. Caleb: yeah that's like the first time I like her cuss she doesn't cuz well I that's like the first time I heard cuss I made her like furious. Austin: We're not gonna run that part for Mrs. Tiffany. Caleb: Yeah, she would not be happy about this Elijah: Yeah. Austin: did you grow up like going to your grandma's house every day? I mean it hit me like when your mom was working. Where did you boys go? Caleb: Yeah after school? It was the elementary and Yeah, when he was in middle school. Yeah, we always go to grandma house. Elijah: We would get dropped off over there. We would ride a bus over there. And stay over there till parents got off. So yeah, it was grandma's house really every day. Yeah. For a minute, it was like, yeah. Austin: Super tight with grandma? Brothers: Yeah. Yeah, we are. 0:28:38 Elijah: That's grandma and aunts. Yeah. They would be over there every day, so we would just chill, have a little pizza party and everything. Yeah. Chill and stuff, so that was a good time. Austin: Grandma's cooking? Brothers: Yeah. Oh, yeah. 0:28:50 Austin: Her best, what was her best meal? Caleb: I like her soup. Elijah: I like her liver and rice. She makes the best liver and rice. And then she got a chocolate cake she can make millions off of but she don't want to make plates. Caleb: Yeah, I like her red velvet cake but it messes up your stomach. Austin: But hold on a minute, hold on a minute, hold on a minute. You stayed at 206 and you could have been eating this chocolate cake and this red velvet cake and putting on the pounds all this time when Elijah was up here working. Caleb: And I was just out, well, oversleep. Austin: Hanging out with that girl. No more though. Caleb: That's over, that's over. No more, it's over. Yeah, it's over. Elijah: Now he put on. Caleb: Yeah, you ain’t gotta worry about that. Elijah: He put on, that would have been a bad weight, he put on a good weight now. Caleb: Yeah. Elijah: If he would have stayed. Caleb: Yeah. Elijah: That would have been a terrible weight he put it on. Austin: But seriously, Tiffany, when she brings the Toots, can she bring some of the chocolate cake or the red velvet cake from grandma's? Best childhood memory? 0:29:48 Elijah: I would say going up to, we came up here when we was younger. Came up to Gatlinburg and we got a cabin up there where the rest of our family stayed up there for three to two days. That was probably the best time I ever had. Caleb: I'm trying to... If I remember right, I probably said him my first home run. Austin: You're a good baseball player? Caleb: Yeah, I was. Austin: Center fielder? Caleb: Yeah, I was really nice. Then, uh... 0:30:13 Austin: Can you see him patrolling the center field at 6'5"? Caleb: Yeah, I was really nice because freshman, sophomore year, I was supposed to start, but I kept on getting hurt. And I kept on messing up my arm, so... I was like, yeah, I just... I couldn't keep on going, so I just stuck to football and that's what made me really stick to football. Austin: Then there was that track, that track where you got hurt. Caleb: Yeah that was. Austin: That was another reason you didn't put on weight. Elijah: I'm really the best shortstop. 0:30:37 Austin: Played shortstop? Elijah: Yeah. Austin: Yeah. I'm the greatest basketball player to never play basketball. Elijah: I'm the coolest shortstop. Austin: Sports you'd be playing if you weren't playing football? Caleb: Baseball. Elijah: Baseball yeah. Because we all really started out with baseball We got our brother Noah. He's up there, too, man. He got a left arm that go crazy. if we would have got it done right, He probably been a MLB. he threw like what… Caleb: it was like 80, 87, 88 by when his arm was like healthy though it was 89. Elijah: he had a mean curveball. He has a crazy, what change up forcing.. Caleb: his change up, it was nasty, Elijah: he was nasty Caleb: but he, yeah, he was nice. it's just his arm started messing up on him. Elijah: yeah, if we didn't play football, we boys definitely in baseball Austin: favorite TV? Elijah: show favorite TV show oh I like family guy. Caleb: I really can't sit through a show. Yeah, Dragon Ball Z is my favorite. Elijah: Dragon Ball Z. Caleb: Dragon Ball Z. Austin: Mount Rushmore of Tennessee players, and you can't name teammates, so former Tennessee players. Brothers: Yeah, of course. Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning. Of course. Elijah: Reggie White. Eric Berry. Caleb: I like Cordell Patterson, too. Elijah: Yeah, Cordell. Austin: Cordell Patterson, there's your four. What about you? You just gonna go with the same four? Caleb: What you mean? I just named three I said. Wait. I named two I said Peyton Manning I said Manning and Cordell Patterson. Elijah: that's it. Austin: Let's give Caleb some praise because I've busted his chops. he's the quieter of the two in real life but he's done really well in this episode. And he's helped carry this thing. I'm proud of you boys. Caleb: I appreciate it. 0:32:32 I expected going in it was going to be a question, answer, question, answer, and they're just bantering back and forth, telling their own things. Caleb: Yes sir. Austin: And besides championships, because I think that's the easy answer for everybody that would be up here. What do you want to accomplish here? Elijah: Man, I want to be personaly, I want Tennessee to be the defense. In general, I want us to be top one in everything that we do. Because, I mean, you've seen us, we've been growing, but I just feel like the players that we have now, I mean, it wouldn't be nothing to us being number one with everything that we're doing right now. I mean, we got everything set in stone. I mean, now we just got to go take it, really. Because everything is in front of us, so this should be the best year. Caleb: Yeah, I'll say, yeah, when it's like really the 22 and 23's, Tom, because like, these, yeah, we got a whole lot of talent. It's like, everybody's like super athletic. Elijah: Be able to paint the NFL. Caleb: Man, Ricky, yeah, Ricky, hey, Ricky Gilson, he, that jokester... 0:33:37 Elijah: He a freak athlete. Caleb: Because I remember, man, he, he jumped, yeah, we were doing vertical jumps. And it's like he effortlessly jumped a 45, like 45 easy. And then I say it's 40, it's probably like a 4, 4 flat, 4, 3, 9. But Ricky, yeah, he's super athletic. But just seeing all, like, all the talent, because everybody's athletic. There's like seven guys jumping like 40, 40 inches. Then there's probably like two or three guys jumping like 35 and up But it's just yeah, everybody's like super athletic and then you're 22 class seeing like seeing how many of them play early last year like really shows uh Really shows us the path really shows the path like we're on right now But yeah, the only way you know only the only way for Tennessee is up right now. Elijah: Yeah. Austin: you guys realize kind of how special it is to be kind of growing up with each other doing this? 0:34:28 Elijah: Yeah, people be telling us, man you got your brother here, that's a blessing. It's something that a bunch of people want to do, but the opportunity is real slim, especially as you keep going up with college and the league. Caleb: You keep on pushing each other. Elijah: It's a true blessing. Caleb: It's really, really helped. Austin: Then you got a bunch of other buddies up here that you've grown up with, like Christian Conyer, and Arian Carter. Elijah: It's a real family. For real. 0:34:51 Austin: And then you got some other guys that aren't here that you can still keep up with like a Dowlin or Jordan James. Guys that have all played in that group. Elijah: Yeah, we'll be able to get the whole J3M in the league. Caleb: That'd be nice. Elijah: For real. Caleb: And Andre Houston, Andre there too. Elijah: Andre with us. Austin: And there's one guy that will hold you in check even if you're in the league. Elijah: That's right. Caleb: Oh yeah. Austin: That who will remain nameless. Elijah: You can't say that. If you know, you know. Austin: If you know, you know. Guys, we appreciate it. Tennessee fans, these are going to be two easy guys to cheer for, two approachable guys. If you see them out in public, come up. They'll be glad to take a picture, sign an autograph. They appreciate everything that Tennessee's done for them, and I know you guys will appreciate everything they do on the field going forward. Caleb Herring, Elijah Herring, I'm Austin Price, Vol Club Confidential wraps. We'll see you next week. Caleb: See ya.