[00:00:00] Hi everyone. Remo Kyburz here. Welcome to another episode of the Leap Takers podcast, the podcast for the curious, where I'm interviewing daring European entrepreneurs, investors and shapers from various fields to learn how they got started on their journey and to discover their insights, tips, tricks, and advice they gathered so that you too - can take the leap. [00:00:29] I hope you all had a great start into 2020 and that you're already working hard towards those goals and resolutions you set yourself for this year. I personally actually just came back a couple of weeks ago from a longer trip in South America, and now I'm really excited to bring the podcast and some other personal projects to the next level this year. [00:00:49] So I have some really exciting guests coming up this year, and I hope you're looking forward to that. I'm very excited to present to you today the newest episode with Vedika Jain, who I actually interviewed on Christmas, a big thank you to her already at this place. [00:01:07] So who is Vedika? Vedika is an investor at Weekend Fund, an early stage venture capital fund that is backing your next favorite thing. [00:01:15] So previously she worked for high profile startups like Stripe and True Layer. And I'm a big fan of Weekend Fund and heard about Vedika because she joined the fund last year. To give you some background, Weekend Fund was started in 2017 by Ryan Hoover. In case you don't know, he's the founder of ProductHunt, an amazing site to discover new products. And ProductHunt was also acquired by AngelList. [00:01:40] So Vedika has a really interesting background story and approach, how she made her way into the "wonderful world of venture capital", as some would say. And I believe we can learn a lot from her. So in today's episode you will hear about her tactics, how she got into VC, general career advice for picking the right companies and startups to work for. [00:02:03] And we will also learn more about the Weekend Fund itself as well. Most of all, Vedika is a super nice, fun and helpful person, so I'm very excited to continue following her path and see what great companies will come out of Weekend Fund. As always, before we get started, I'd like to share one of my favorite quotes. Here it goes: [00:02:25] "Everything you want is outside of your comfort zone." [00:02:29] I actually don't know who to attribute this quote to, since I found several names online, so let's just leave it at that. But yeah, I'm certain that this quote has a lot of truth to it and that to achieve the things you want, you just have to be brave and get started and push yourself out of the comfort zone. If it would be easy, you would have already done it or achieved it by now. Having said that, let's get started with today's episode. [00:02:57]Start of the Interview [00:02:57] [00:02:57] Hello everyone. Welcome to the Leap Takers podcast and hello to Vedika, who is here with me today. [00:03:02] Welcome to this episode of the Leap Takers podcast. I'm so excited to have you on the show. [00:03:07] Vedika Jain: [00:03:07] Thank you for having me. It's perfect spending your Christmas Eve with me. [00:03:12] Remo Kyburz: [00:03:12] Yeah. I just wanted to say thank you so much shortly before Christmas to do this recording. I'm sure you must be very busy as well with all the preparation. [00:03:22] Vedika Jain: [00:03:22] Yeah. Well, so my parents live out in India. We don't celebrate Christmas. So I'm actually flying back to India on Christmas day because the flights are a lot cheaper. [00:03:33] Remo Kyburz: [00:03:33] Oh, okay. That makes a lot of sense. [00:03:36] Vedika Jain: [00:03:36] It's an international flying hack, especially when you're flying out like from the Western world to the East. [00:03:44]Remo Kyburz: [00:03:44] Yeah. I guess you can save a lot of money flying on this day! But cool. [00:03:48]I would like to start with just a quick intro from your side to the audience that might be not that familiar with you. If you could just describe yourself quickly, how you would introduce yourself to someone you just met, maybe at a cocktail party or at a dinner? [00:04:04] Vedika Jain: [00:04:04] Yeah. Sure. so, hi everyone. I'm Vedika. And so I invest in early stage startups. Weekend Fund's chief of staff, before Weekend Fund I worked as a product manager at a financial infrastructure startup called True Layer in London, and before that I was at a payment startup called Stripe in San Francisco. [00:04:28]What Stripe and True Layer have in common is that they both build tooling and infrastructure for developers, which I think is really valuable thing to do. [00:04:37]The other things I do is not that different from what anybody else does, I guess hang out with people I love. [00:04:43] I read books, I buy more books than I read. I order things off Amazon. Yeah. [00:04:50] Remo Kyburz: [00:04:50] Nice. I think we will get to the book parts for sure [00:04:53] Vedika Jain: [00:04:53] Okay. [00:04:55]Remo Kyburz: [00:04:55] Thanks for the intro. And I read something on a Medium post that you, that you shared and that caught my attention and I really wanted to ask you about it. So I think the quote was that you wrote "I spend my days, learning about what it takes to build, launch and sell successful technology products. Try to make the best of the 30,000 or so days allocated to me". I was wondering, it sounds like you're very fascinated with, technology and learning. So, where does this interest come from? [00:05:27] Vedika Jain: [00:05:27] Hmm. Good question. So I guess a little bit of backstory there. So I grew up in India. And my parents run a traditional flour milling business, so they make flour. And I guess when you want to make more flour, like you invest in better machinery and you hire more people. And there was a little technology involved on the machinery side, but not a lot. [00:05:53] But the one thing was that growing up, like business was always a part of the conversation at home, and then when I was 17, I was lucky enough to move to Berkeley for college. So this is Berkeley, California. And I think there's lots of things to be said for or against the Bay area. [00:06:13] But the one thing. that like really made me go Whoa. As a 17 year old Indian girl who just had moved to Berkeley, it was that everybody felt like they were a part of influencing the future. Like people, kids in my dorm would have conversations about it and girls in my sorority would have conversations about it and it was really cool to be living somewhere where you feel like you can do something about the future versus it just being something that happens around you if you wait long enough. And yeah, that's how like the whole thing started and I mean, philosophically, I like it, like technology's about tools and it's about making things happen. [00:07:00]Remo Kyburz: [00:07:00] Yeah that sounds very interesting and given that you already mentioned you then worked there for example for True Layer. [00:07:08]How did you get into these jobs? Like, was it clear for you that you want to work in one of these tech companies or startups, or did you more by accident get into that field? [00:07:20]Vedika Jain: [00:07:20] Well, because I was in college in the Bay area, I think a lot of what you end up doing is a lot of what your friends end up doing. And working in tech was the default thing to do. But I also, was lucky enough to have some internships during college, that definitely made me sure that this is what I want to do after school. [00:07:43] So, one of them was, I ended up working at a late stage venture capital fund. Well, while I was still at college. And as a college student, like it seemed wild to me that you could have a job, like you could get paid to hear people pitch different parts of the future they want to build, and you basically agree or disagree with them and you take bets on them and help them grow their companies. [00:08:12]I love that. And then I ended up at Stripe, which was growing. Really fast when I joined them. I guess I've been lucky enough to work at really fast growing startups. One thing I always wanted was like, I wanted to join companies where the action was. If that makes sense. [00:08:33] And yes, Stripe and True Layer were both companies like that .True layer was about six people when I joined them a little over two years ago. And when I left True Layer about two months ago, it was 70 people. [00:08:48] Remo Kyburz: [00:08:48] Wow. Yeah, that's a big growth already. [00:08:52] Vedika Jain: [00:08:52] Yeah. And I think both of these companies, we're actually going after really big opportunities. Stripe is growing the GDP of the internet and True Layer is trying to open up access to financial data. [00:09:05]Remo Kyburz: [00:09:05] When you joined Stripe, how big was the company at this point? [00:09:09] Vedika Jain: [00:09:09] I think it was around 250 people. [00:09:13]Remo Kyburz: [00:09:13] I'm fascinated with Stripe because it's such a great company. From what you hear, the Collison brothers, they really seem to do really well in what they do. I think I heard an interview with Patrick Collison once and it was very interesting to just learn about his mindsets. [00:09:31] Vedika Jain: [00:09:31] Stripe is cool because Stripe basically makes it easier to start businesses. And when you make it easier to start businesses, a lot more people start businesses, which is, you know, good for the world. [00:09:45]Remo Kyburz: [00:09:45] And do you have any tips for , you know, recent graduates that want to land the job at one of those types of companies? [00:09:54] Vedika Jain: [00:09:54] Hmm. That's a good question. So, I think rather than tips, I can kind of go over a few things that I learnt, picking the jobs that I did pick. And that's like, that's not to say that, yeah, following this path is the right path, but like you can't run simulations in your own life. [00:10:14] Remo Kyburz: [00:10:14] Yeah. [00:10:16] Vedika Jain: [00:10:16] The first is, yeah, like go where the action is happening, because I think it will really give you an opportunity to actually have an impact and grow as the company grows. You actually need like space in the organization to be able to do that. [00:10:31]The other thing is, when I started my career, which wasn't that long ago, but I was picking companies. More than I was picking bosses or coworkers. [00:10:44] And that's something I've actually changed my mind about because I think now when I pick a job, I'm like, a big part of my decision to work for Weekend Fund was actually to work for Ryan. So I think kind of optimizing for the people that you end up spending the most time with at work. I think it is an underrated strategy. [00:11:06] And the other thing is just start doing the work. One of the things the internet makes possible is that you don't have to ask for permission really to start doing things and you can do the version of the thing that you eventually want to do. So I wanted to get a job in venture capital and Venture capital involves seeing companies, finding companies, evaluating those companies to invest in, and then actually making the investments and helping those companies grow and to be able to see investments you need access. Right? So that requires some sort of permission to, to help companies grow or the investments you've made grow, like you need to have those investments. [00:11:49] But one of those things, which is kind of evaluating investments, I don't think you really need permission. Like there are so many, funding rounds that got announced on the internet every day. And you could start forming an opinion about those companies. You can put your thoughts out there, you can send them to people who are friends of yours that are building things or friends of yours that are investing. [00:12:13] Start getting feedback, but just kind of be on your way, if that makes sense. Cause I think that just opens up a lot of things that you couldn't have predicted before you started doing the thing. And you learn so much more about something once you're already doing it versus just before. [00:12:31] But yet we spent so much of our time, you know, in that just before state. [00:12:36]Remo Kyburz: [00:12:36] I really like all the things you just mentioned, especially pick the person you work for, pick your boss. Yeah, it's definitely an under stated strategy that can really pay off if you work for people that can help you further in your career and that you can learn from. And also what you mentioned with just do it. And with the internet, you can just get involved in it. It's also so true. [00:13:00] And that is where I wanted to go anyway now. So I read that you just started writing these investing memos about companies that you found interesting online. I find this very funny because I did the same thing or I'm still doing the same thing just for my personal interests outside of what I do for my work. [00:13:19]This really resonated with me when I read that someone else is doing this as well. So, yeah. Can you just walk me through the story how you started doing this and how it played out? [00:13:29]Vedika Jain: [00:13:29] So in terms of why I started doing it. I knew I wanted to, you know, get into a career in investing, but there's so many more people that wanted a job in Venture capital than there are jobs, right? So it's like, I think it's one of those careers where like, you have to start doing the work before you get the job, and not because you even want to, but because I think for a lot of people it's the only way. [00:13:58] And I was one of those people, I didn't have a track record in investing. I only really had like product management or more like analyticsy jobs. And the process was I would if there was like a funding announcement article in Techcrunch or, you know, there was like a new addition to, a portfolio page of a VC that I like and some VCs will actually publish externally facing memos. [00:14:26] So USV (Union Square Ventures) famously does this. I would use that announcement as a starting point and try to reverse engineer whether I would have made the investment or not. [00:14:37] I think you really just have to get started somewhere. One of the early investment memos I wrote, was about a company called Retool. [00:14:46]That investment memo was a huge opportunity to learn what's actually, you know, what's going on in programming tools, that I hadn't , thought about that before. What's up in , internal tools specifically? What is like the actual bet that you're making, you know, when you invest in this company, going deeper into the product, right? [00:15:06] Like, how does it work? Why does it work? Why is it better? Why is it defensible? and then, yeah, like all of the obvious stuff, like the market is the market they're solving for big? Is it growing? Who are they competing with? And you start with those questions about one company and then it leads you to other companies. [00:15:24]Because the question of who are they competing with? Then suddenly you find yourself researching the competitors and one thing that I didn't realize then, that I realized now because you know, now I'm actually investing is what back then, I didn't have access to any proprietary information. [00:15:42] Right? So it's not like I was jumping on a call with the founders of Retool. I realized that when you don't have access to information, you really find all the information that you can. And one of the things that I spend a lot of time on is actually the personal blogs of the founders and the Twitters of the founders. [00:16:04] You know, what are, what are they like, what are they spending their time thinking about is what they're building feels like a natural extension of the people that they already are. Do I think they're uniquely qualified to build this business? Would the founders be friends, like organically or it's just, you know, they've just kind of come together to build this business. [00:16:27] Because one of the things I started to see is like these teams that people in the teams, they combine and recombine in different ways. Like they do it as a part of like founding teams. They do it socially. They do it as a part of projects. [00:16:41] Remo Kyburz: [00:16:41] Yeah because the one thing you cannot really do is when you do these investment memos , you cannot really talk to the founders, which otherwise as a VC you would. So I like that idea that you checked their online profiles and stuff like that to get a feeling for who they are. [00:16:58]And how long would the memos be once, once you wrote them? [00:17:02]Vedika Jain: [00:17:02] I'm happy to actually send you one or send whoever one. But like my Retool memo was like four and a half pages. [00:17:09]Remo Kyburz: [00:17:09] Cool! But you did not really publish them, right. You kept them to yourself because it was more of a learning experience for your [00:17:15] Vedika Jain: [00:17:15] Exactly. Yeah. It was a learning experience for me, but, since I wrote the blog post about how, I ended up at Weekend Fund, a lot of people had reached out to me asking for the memos and I sent it to a few people and my brother actually ended up sending it to the founders of Retool [00:17:34] Remo Kyburz: [00:17:34] Oh, nice. [00:17:38] Vedika Jain: [00:17:38] A close circle there. But yeah, I mean for me it was just like a, for me it wasn't that different from making notes in my personal notebook. Like this is never supposed to be something for like external consumption. [00:17:52] Yeah. [00:17:53] It's just kind of me learning. knowing for myself and kind of just satisfying my curiosity about companies and how things work and why things are the way they are. [00:18:05] Remo Kyburz: [00:18:05] And are you interested in specific areas? like that companies are active in? Any specific industry? [00:18:14] Vedika Jain: [00:18:14] So, we invest broadly at Weekend Fund. But some of the trends and sectors that we've been actively following are audio and voice. So the hardware's becoming ubiquitous. Like I think in 2018 there were 35 million AirPods sold. you know, so what is possible? you know, thought platform. [00:18:40]So another area, I think both Ryan and I care about quite deeply for a number of reasons, is helping people make money doing what they love, right? Like, cause Ryan and I get to do that and it, it doesn't seem fair that a lot of other people don't. So a16z calls it Passion Economy, we'll call it Tools for Makers and Creators. [00:19:07]And then some other areas we've been looking at more recently is unbundling of Excel. Software for non-desk workers. So I'd say the majority, maybe 95, 98, 99% of all venture capital funding goes towards building software for the desk work force. But my dad runs a flour mill and the majority of his workforce is non-desk, like they are in the mill. [00:19:38] Right. And today, a lot of their business is happening on WhatsApp. And their communication and their collaboration and you know they're going to need, like a hands free mobile first, you know, like works in native languages toolset. [00:19:59] I'm curious about that as well. [00:20:02]Remo Kyburz: [00:20:02] Yeah, that's a really good point about the non- desk workers. There is a company here in Switzerland called Beekeeper and they do exactly that. I think it is a software to communicate with non-desk workers and they just, I think in September raised like 45 million round, if I remember right. It's definitely an area that is a bit overlooked, but there is a big opportunity there. [00:20:25] Vedika Jain: [00:20:25] Yeah. Beekeeper is a cool company. I owe my sort an investment memo on them, but I know like they power kind of software like, the Hilton hotels, Heathrow airport, you know, like all of those places where you see people, like when you're checking in for your flight and you need, like, you see the easy jet employee like on like an MS Dos-like terminal. [00:20:51] Remo Kyburz: [00:20:51] Yeah. [00:20:52]Vedika Jain: [00:20:52] Who is building software for all of these [00:20:54] Remo Kyburz: [00:20:54] Yeah. So I'm really interested about the story how you met Ryan, of Weekend Fund. And obviously I think a lot of people in the audience probably heard of Ryan, or at least heard of ProductHunt. So can you walk me through the story how you got introduced to him or like how you first heard about Weekend Fund? How the story went that you could join the company. [00:21:22]Vedika Jain: [00:21:22] So I guess picking off where I left off, with the fantasy investment memos, there kind of came a point where even though I loved my whole " fake it till you make it "version of investing, I did want to do less faking and more actually doing the thing. And I reached out to my friend Harry Stebbings, who runs a podcast called The Twenty Minute VC. [00:21:46]Harry said something that really stuck with me and I'm not sure if Harry remembers saying this, but it's one of the best pieces of advice I have received about actually getting into investing: [00:21:57] He's like, "Oh Vedika you want a job in Venture capital?" And I'm like "yes". And he's like: "Okay well, the way to do venture capital is to get people to trust you to manage their money and is to get other smart people to take your money." [00:22:14]And that kind of stuck with me because one of the things that I was exploring is joining one of the larger funds, as an associate. But I don't think I would have really gotten to do as much of these, you know, things at larger funds where they have a partnership, that has several partners already in place. [00:22:35] What Harry told me that, I was for a moment thinking I would go raise my own fund. I actually went on a little bit of a road show [00:22:45]Remo Kyburz: [00:22:45] Wow okay! [00:22:45] Vedika Jain: [00:22:45] Over my Christmas holidays last year in India. And I met a few potential LPs and I was having conversations about it. [00:22:55] But what I really didn't fully appreciate was, it's not about getting people to give you their money, right? Like that. It's hard. It's definitely very hard. But I think it was doable to get enough money to start a Micro Fund, but the other part of it would've been really hard, which is access to the best deals. [00:23:23] Remo Kyburz: [00:23:23] Yeah, for sure. [00:23:25]Vedika Jain: [00:23:25] And this time around I was like, okay, well, I'm probably not going to fake it like I did with the memos. And then just coincidentally, Ryan was looking for somebody to bring on board Weekend Fund and basically help him run the fund. Harry actually introduced me to Ryan , which I'm really grateful for because I would have probably never had the job, without Harry. [00:23:55]And that was in February, maybe late January or February this year. I joined Ryan March this year. I did it nights and weekends for about six months. So Ryan still runs Product Hunt during the day, and I was at True Layer and yeah, I'd just like log onto my computer after work and we'd jump on calls with founders and due diligence and figuring out what kind of experiments we could run to actually treat the fund as a product, because we're both product people and yeah, it went well. And Ryan and I both took a "leap" and I joined full time in October, so I've been doing that full time for two months now. [00:24:45]Remo Kyburz: [00:24:45] That's an amazing story. I'm happy for you that it worked out that well with joining Weekend Fund that you now can even do it full time as well. [00:24:54] Vedika Jain: [00:24:54] I'm really lucky. I think when you get lucky, there's definitely a responsibility to pay it forward. I say that in quotes, but it's really kind of make the world more meritocratic for people who haven't been that lucky, right? Like, what if you don't know Harry Stebbings, who knows Ryan? [00:25:16] Remo Kyburz: [00:25:16] Yeah, yeah. I get you. So there's so many places where we could go next. Maybe tell me a bit about Weekend Fund itself. You mentioned it was more of a side hustle in the beginning for Ryan, like kind of how big is your Fund now? How many companies do you typically invest in and, just a bit about your investment approach as well? [00:25:38]Vedika Jain: [00:25:38] So back in 2017, Ryan announced Weekend Fund One. And that was a $3 million fund to back early stage startup. And we invested in about 40 startups out of that fund. And we invested in founders from around the world. That fund is still young, but it's off to a strong start. [00:26:01] And a few weeks ago, we basically announced Weekend Fund Two, and it's a $10 million fund. And this fund is three times the size of the last fund. It means that we can end up writing bigger checks, right? So we can make bigger bets on the companies that we really believe in, but we don't lead deals. [00:26:23] So that means we get to be a team player in the venture ecosystem. Also we can write smaller checks if need be. And one of the things, Ryan worked extremely hard to make happen is our LP base. So we have about a hundred of the world's best operators and investors as LPs in the fund. [00:26:48]Our hope is that this makes like the Weekend Fund community stronger, they can help out our portfolio companies in the ways that they need the most help. We write about 100k to 200K checks. I guess I already talked about the areas we're most excited about. [00:27:07]Remo Kyburz: [00:27:07] One thing I was interested in is you invest or you manage the fund via AngelList. Is that correct? [00:27:15]Vedika Jain: [00:27:15] Yeah. You mean the AngelList Venture Funds product? Yeah, we do. So one of the reasons we're able to run Weekend Fund with Ryan in LA and me in London, a Slack channel, and an Airtable is because we use AngelList Venture Funds to manage our back office. [00:27:35]Remo Kyburz: [00:27:35] This is definitely a great product for the smaller micro funds. I'm not sure if this is only available in the US, or is it also possible to do that in Europe? Do you know? [00:27:48]Vedika Jain: [00:27:48] I don't know, but I think they've launched it in India recently. [00:27:52]Yeah. But you're right. Like basically it takes the overhead out of running a venture capital fund. So if you are running a fund, you can focus on other things that really matter most, which is sourcing the best companies, investing in the best companies, and helping the companies that you invest in, become the companies that they actually want to become. [00:28:16]Remo Kyburz: [00:28:16] Another question I was really interested in is, since you are fascinated with technology and startups, if you have any resources or books for aspiring VCs, like you, or also for entrepreneurs that you think could be helpful? [00:28:33] Vedika Jain: [00:28:33] Sure. Oh, so much. I mean, [00:28:39]So I mean, I'd say First Round Review is probably the best tactical, you know, what do I do when I have this problem? [00:28:46] Remo Kyburz: [00:28:46] So that's [00:28:48] Vedika Jain: [00:28:48] First Round Review. Yeah. and then there are other, things that I read on almost a weekly basis that on the surface are not, you know, they're not like a tech blog, but really helps me think. [00:29:06]So one of them is David Perell's Monday Musings newsletter. [00:29:11]Probably everything by like Morgan Housel at Collaborative Fund. He writes on the Collaborative Fund blog. Let's see. Oh for aspiring VCs, I would actually recommend reading two things. So the first is, and now neither of this is targeted at venture capital specifically. But just how to think about building a career and especially like, you know, like a longterm career. [00:29:40]So the first one is the P Marfa guide to career planning, and the second one is a blog post by Sam Altman: "How to be successful". [00:29:51] Remo Kyburz: [00:29:51] Oh yeah. That's amazing. [00:29:53] Vedika Jain: [00:29:53] Yeah. But it's basically some Ultimate's thoughts on how to be an outlier, really. I think it applies to aspiring venture capitalists as it does to most of the other careers. [00:30:08]Remo Kyburz: [00:30:08] Yeah, there were some great names here. I actually don't know. All of them, but I will definitely look into this. This sounds interesting. [00:30:16]Vedika Jain: [00:30:16] Let me know if you end up reading any of it and I'd love to know your thoughts. [00:30:20] Remo Kyburz: [00:30:20] Yeah. So I heard a First Round Review, but I I didn't really read it. Then Sam Altman, yeah, of course. I love his content that he puts out. The other two, I was not really aware about. [00:30:32] So personally I really like, Haystack what Semil writes. And then Andrew Chen, Mmm, yeah. Some of those. [00:30:41] Do you have a favorite book or it can also be a movie that you would recommend just to anyone that goes on a longer plane ride, for example? So not necessarily career or entrepreneurship related. [00:30:53] Vedika Jain: [00:30:53] Yeah. When Breath Becomes Air. So it's a memoir written by a neurosurgical resident who gets terminal lung cancer. I think in his last year of residency. And it's basically he searched for what makes life meaningful and it's like, it's one of those books that really, it changed something in me. [00:31:22] Like I felt different. After reading the book then before reading the book. Mmm. Yeah. I also read a lot of young adult fiction, which really is aimed at teenagers, [00:31:36] But I think like teenage characters ask the best questions and they asked the kind of questions, adult characters. You know, may not have the courage to ask. [00:31:53] Mmm. Yeah. I read like all of the John Green books for example. [00:31:59]So "Looking for Alaska" is one of my favorites. "Turtles all the way down". Another one. [00:32:07]Remo Kyburz: [00:32:07] So looking at the time, I wanted to ask you also about, you know, the best or most worthwile investment that you've made so far. And I know it doesn't need to be related to actually an investment of money, or in a startup investment. They can be an investment of time or energy. yeah. Or it can also be one of your, virtual investments from your memos. [00:32:30] But yeah, just curious, what do you think is your best investment? [00:32:34] Vedika Jain: [00:32:34] Yeah. I'd say by far, investing in the relationships that I have, so with friends and family, so I'm in my mid twenties, so I turned 26 in October. I think with friends particularly, and even with my parents, I, it's. Like Naval. we'll always talk about this idea of how everything worthwhile in life comes from compounding. [00:33:02] And I think your mid twenties are the point where those relationships and friendships really start to compound into something. And yeah, like by far more than the books that I've read, more than the jobs I've had, more than the classes I've attended. Probably just investing in those relationships has been extremely rewarding. [00:33:27]Remo Kyburz: [00:33:27] Yup, that makes sense. Great. Then do you have any closing words from your side that you wanted to mention to the audience? Or where people can find you, or if they want to learn more about, Weekend Fund. [00:33:43] Vedika Jain: [00:33:43] Yeah, sure. So, we live on the internet, so you can find us in the internet but you can find me on Twitter. The Weekend Fund website is weekend.fund . You can honestly just email me at vedika@weekend.fund, I'm most responsive by email and happy holidays. Thanks for listening. [00:34:05] Remo Kyburz: [00:34:05] Great. Yeah. Thank you so much Vedika for coming on the podcast. [00:34:09] Vedika Jain: [00:34:09] Yes. Thank you for having me. [00:34:11]Outro [00:34:11] [00:34:11]Remo Kyburz: [00:34:11] All right everyone, thank you so much for listening to this episode. You could do me a really big favor if you would just tell one of your friends about the Leap Takers podcast and recommend it, or if you want to do even more, quickly head over to the iTunes or Apple podcast store and give the Leap Takers podcast a five star rating. [00:34:28] This would really help me to get more visible and that I'll be able to continuously bring on great guests to this show. Thank you so much. [00:34:36] Also, if you have any feedback or suggestions for future guests, just shoot me a message. You can find all my contact info on leaptakers.com or you can also follow me on Twitter or Instagram where you can find me under Remo Kyburz, or just follow the Leap Takers Podcasts directly in Instagram as well. 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