Martin, have you got another bird? Did you buy it? Another bird? Yeah, from the toilet. That's where you were last time. Remember you were in the toilet. He's like, what the fuck? Yeah, sorry. Another bird, what? No, no, look, I have to say, it's great to be back. you two did a wonderful job while i was essentially wedded to the toilet and no it wasn't like an art exhibition i wasn't looking at brolgers or herons and stuff and i know that the paper mache flamingo would suggest otherwise behind me but we've had that for a long time so great job with the sexy man great job with keeping the audience engaged uh but i'm no longer ill it's great to be back imagine he shows up and goes on the call and like one of those herons from the toilet is behind him that'd be amazing i would love that so much oh man all that all our um the money we get from our kind hemispheric views one prime plus members should go towards buying one of those birds for martin we probably should yeah it would be ideal i'd kick in on that martin you did just mention just um i wasn't going to bring this up because i think the topic's been done to death but you did just give me a little segue sexy man soap is now used up i've run out of sexy man i moved on to moroccan spice and i can report that it's not as good it's not as flavorsome not as doesn't the smell doesn't stay with you as long as sexy man it's just a more muted flavor so moroccan spice not working for me the people of perth just going who's this guy walking past who smells like a wafting tagine what is this yes i did find myself being less interested in you so now i understand why yeah that's no digs at morocco morocco is great just not the smell of the cuisine on a man no no i was hoping to smell more like indiana jones but it hasn't really worked out that way you know what would make you look 10 000 times better what oh a bespoke hemispheric views beanie. That's what would make you look 10,000 times better. Is it such a thing? Well, I'm glad you asked. There is approximately, and by approximately, I mean exactly, one in existence. This is by far the best podcast merch ever to be created, and it will probably never be created again. It is a hand-knit bespoke. I'm using the word bespoke again. That's how bespoke it is. One of one knit cap in our legendary blue. I'm waiting for the colors. Blue and orange slash yellow slash green with a handmade tag sporting HV 2025. It looks fantastic. It does. And you ask, wait, there's only one of these. Well, which of the three of you is going to get it? And the answer is none of us. None of the three of us are going to get it. That's what's so great. Who's going to get it? Somebody who enters the contest. And by contest, I mean form on the internet, which will be in the show notes. and I'll be plastering this thing all over the internet for probably through like February. And all you have to do is enter and then we'll pick a random listener and you will get literally the coolest like podcast hat ever on earth. Is the joke that if a Northern Hemispharian wins it, they're going to receive it at a time when you wouldn't be wearing a beanie anymore? That's the funny thing about this is either half of the year we did this contest in, It wouldn't work for the other half. So it just doesn't matter. But it is reversible. So if you want to rock northern, you can have it be the northern way with a little bit of southern peeking out with the green rim or go the other way and go southern with a little bit of northern coming out with the green rim. Hang on, green rim? Oh, yeah. Oh, you're talking about the very top stitching. The very edge is our green, little green touch there. So it's incredible. it's freaking awesome uh it's handmade valerie handmade this for us oh cool and it's absolutely incredible and i'm both excited that someone's going to get this and devastated that i cannot put this on my own head she is talented this looks fantastic so people check the notes for the image and the link to the form right yeah it is incredible and um look i'm just gonna say we all know that based on previous experience eric m walk is likely to win it but don't let that Don't let that get in the way of your own efforts. No, there are no Arcadia games in this contest. It is purely luck of you going into the big hat with everyone else and getting drawn. Is it a hat or a beanie? Well, that's true. I guess I could draw the name out of the beanie. The beanie, yeah. Yeah. All right, we'll do that. In February, we'll do a live stream pulling the name out of the hat, and we'll see who wins. beautiful that's cool well thank you valerie thank you jason uh it'd be great to have but the problem is that my head is so physically large that i think i'd actually tear it yeah so it's not for me i mean i'd love it but i think it would be wrong of me to wear it so yeah happy to see someone else get it there you go poor martin and his big head that's huge no seriously i i knew it was big but it was years ago uh fresh out of high school paintball with friends not my first chosen activity but i thought you know i'll go along and i said uh yeah what helmets you got they gave me the extra large and it was time your sniper's dream hey yeah everybody just shooting martin in the head oh i i actually being a bit of a coward thought i gotta go out i gotta run out into the open and like to say was the most courageous individual in the activity so despite my massive noggin as a target well there we go beanie time hemisphericfuse.com slash 2025 raffle there's the uh derailing head chat just enter the competition all right what is next you mentioned derailing uh well martin mentioned derailing how's the bike going oh it's going great it's going great i've got new grips new pedals love the bike it's incredible haven't done anything crazy yet have not broken myself yet so things are going well that's good i had to get new spokes oh bespoke bespoke spokes indeed yeah i was riding the bike and suddenly it got a real weird weird wheel wobble i had to had to get off look at look at wheel what A wheel. And I couldn't, I couldn't, I couldn't wide my bike home. I had to walk it. I had to walk my bike home. Well, no. Wobbly bike home. Yeah, I had to get all new spokes put on the back wheel. Apparently they've seen this before. It's the combination of excessive torque caused by the e-bike motor plus a very powerful man riding it. Yeah. I was going to say it's probably that heavy leg strength that you've got. Yeah. Yeah. From those legs that, remember when they used to not be washed? I bet they were like overly powerful back then. Oh, so, so powerful. So, yeah. Yeah. But the good thing is. But also less aerodynamic. Think of all the gunk on those leg hairs. Yeah. We're just dragging them back. Now they're sexy legs. They were going to put chain degreaser on my legs as well as the chain. I thought that might work. But no, all new spokes. And the best thing about it, under warranty, totally free of charge. Oh, man. If anybody loves a warranty, it's you. That's an Australian warranty. So in America, they probably still would have charged me a restocking fee or something. But here in Australia, free of charge. That Australian consumer law, two years guarantee. Oh, man. I love it. I love it when retailers or manufacturers sell that legislation as their own kind of benefit. Yeah. Oh, guess what? You've got two years. How generous are we? It's like, no, that's the law. Do better. No, we're going to do the bare minimum. Yeah. Sorry. But sell it as like our generosity. Yeah. Sorry, Martin. I derailed that conversation. No, it's good because you both painted me as some sort of serious note Nazi last time. Like, oh, we're going to deviate. look earlier on probably in my foot days yeah now i'm just about as uh chilled out as they come however i will be paying attention to the notes from now on so yeah stick to it i'll get cranky he's kind of magnetic when it comes i'm trying to confuse you you don't know whether i'm loosey goosey or not no idea so does that mean we should skip the next topic and go to like two or three down or yeah yeah sure whatever oh oh he said that but he it's painting him he's like no please don't. He's gripping the desk. We can't see what he is. Yeah. I think a piece of the desk just came off actually in his hand. How did you know that? How did you know that? Next topic. There's a magnet. I'm going to say, let's go magnet. Yeah. It's a quick photography corner. I wanted to add some stuff because, you know, we are a tech adjacent podcast and, you know, digital cameras, mirrorless cameras, they are like technological, I think. So we can do that. However, this first bit is more about the iPhone. So have either of you ever used the Moment Pro camera app before? No. No, I've used Moment. You know about Moment? I know about Moment lenses, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They do like mobile lenses and they sell a bunch of other stuff on their store and that sort of thing. I've used the Moment Pro camera app, you know, on and off over the years because I liked having, I've got, you might recall or long-time listeners may recall that i did some video tests with an anamorphic and a telephoto and stuff that i bought ages ago that you can affix to your phone with the relevant compatible case right and it goes with the moment pro camera app because then it tells you know oh the exif data you know it was done with this particular lens or whatever and it also opened up things like uh 50 frame per second pal recording for video in different resolutions which the default camera app doesn't do. You can tick PAL, but it only gives you 25 frames per second. Why are you doing PAL recording? Because we have different, like lights will flicker here in Australia because we have different hertz. Oh, are you guys 50? Yes, we're PAL. So for years and years, it was like, oh, I want to do a high speed recording. Great. Now I've got fluoro things happening and like flickers, if you've ever seen. Yeah. Whereas this app allowed you to do 1080p or 4K and 50 frames per second. Anyway, that's been around for years, but I wanted to bring up Moment Pro Camera 2, which is their sequel that you can buy, as far as I'm aware, subscription free, which makes me happy. But it's one of those things where it's like a rewrite or a redesign, and I really like the look of it. But the reason I wanted to bring it up was because they've done something in the app, which I don't think was in the first one, unless I've missed it. People can write in or post or email us if I'm completely wrong. But they added something in their photograph settings which impressed me which is you can do like raw photography on the compatible phones and you can have apple processing but they've added a natural processing option as they call it and what i mean is that it does some stuff to the jpeg or he files but more like what the camera sensor on your phone is actually seeing without all of the computational let's layer 20 photos on each other apple style thing where people have faces that don't quite match what you see in reality right and i just want to put it out there because if people are looking for a cool manual photography and extra video kind of option in a camera app uh because i tend to use my om stuff much more than iphone now but this really appealed to me because i can take a photo on my phone which to everyone else in the world would look crappier but it actually looks more like the light that i'm seeing rather than trying to correct things that i then can't capture in the same way I thought this was cool. I love natural process. I love a natural photo. Like, let me screw with it. Stop messing with what I'm seeing. I don't need, but most people listening would see it and go, that looks noisy. That's horrible. Like most people will not like what I'm talking about, but it's another option. Does that bother either of you? Really? I like natural as much as possible. Just I want what is on the back of my camera to look like what I'm looking at. I don't want you to mess with it. So that would appeal to you. Even if it's JPEG and like not raw. Yes. I don't mind a bit of artistic impression added to it. But I actually like it when things get more grainy. So even if it's processed, so it looks like it's less processed. So maybe if this is delivering that, because it is more natural, if I'm interpreting your... Well, if either of you happen to try it, or if any listeners have tried it, or tried after hearing this, I'd love to hear it, because it kind of reveals just how shitty your phone camera is. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean like new ones. Like I've got an iPhone 13 mini, which obviously does not stack up, you know, next to 15, 16, 17. But again, a lot of that stuff comes down to software. Yes. Right. So if you use this app on your iPhone 17 Pro, you might still go, that looks a bit crap. It'll reveal the limitation of physics with your lenses and sensors. Yeah. It's all, it's all software. I mean, the sensors are the size of a grain of sand. Computational photography. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So anyway, I just thought I'd shout that out. And the other thing, trying to maintain my promise of it being quick, which maybe it's not. I might be mispronouncing the name of this brand, Sarui, Sarai, I'm not sure. But recently at work. Sirui. Yeah, S-I-R-U-I. Siri. yeah siri with a u hey siri um we've been exploring these pretty cool 20 millimeter and 40 millimeter 1.33 times t1.8 s35 autofocus anamorphic lenses do you have any idea what i'm talking about with that word it's 1.33 times 1.8 equals 35 i remember learning i remember learning all about anamorphic when i was well into dvds like 20 years ago anamorphic video was all the rage so do you like anamorphic video andrew do you know what i'm talking about well i did i did 20 years ago when i was desperately trying to ensure that my dvd collection was fully anamorphic or whatever it was yeah and it's like what does that mean in handbrake should i be what's going on um yeah so for anyone listening who doesn't know what i'm on about anamorphic lenses are when you essentially have instead of like a circular opening or the circular lenses it's more elliptical and it takes a lot more detail from the sides and at least this is how it works with mirrorless cameras now digitally gets all this extra detail and squeezes it onto the sensor format or plane of your camera and then assuming it doesn't do it in the camera or phone you then have to de-squeeze it so that 1.33 times is the squeeze factor that you then have to de-squeeze to get a widescreen letterbox format and it can end up with very interesting characteristics of softness or vignetting or cool colored flares depending on which ones you buy and it's something that we've been exploring because um autofocus in this sort of area this product is rare they're normally manual focus but to have these characteristics with something that focuses automatically is very cool de-squeeze is my new favorite term i was gonna mention that as well i was thinking about de-squeezing my citrus i love a de-squeeze anyway i'll include um some photos or video to actually have in the notes if people are curious because um a lot of the stuff that i've done is mainly work-centric and maybe not appropriate to share here but um it's interesting because for most people photography wise this would be a nightmare you like people don't want the characteristics that come with these lenses they want sharpness and perfection whereas this is more of a cinematic thing it's all the things that we love that add drama with like flares and bleed and all this stuff but i think it can be quite interesting for photography as well so if anyone out there needs an anamorphic lens for their uh micro four-thirds or aps-c camera uh they're actually pretty affordable and pretty cool considering what you get sui all right there's my photography corner i would love to see a sample video of this i'll see if i can uh if i can get something appropriate for you final cut dot quick time oh martin loves his quick time he does he's recording with it right now i sure am he told me to use it and i said no i will not he said he uninstalled it which i uninstalled it just like the tips app i got rid of it on day one tips yeah can you uninstall that i guess you can see it's gone now you can on ios you know well you can hide it i have a horrible feeling that deleting some of these apps is gonna bite me later but they're gone so we'll see it's like i don't want the finder anymore it's gone get out of here although you can actually kind of do that now what's it called oh i forgot it i know people on mac stories were writing about it linux no it's is it bloom oh that new flossam or something it's like a finder equivalent i had it open on a tab somewhere to look at it it's no it's really interesting because it's like a finder replacement that you can get working on your mac right but it adds all of these different ways of doing your file management or moving things within the window that just sounds kind of fiddly though like it's gonna break and it's gonna be annoying every single update something's gonna be weird i just yeah i don't know probably but but it's nice to see people reimagining i think in a way what we would say is just standard and maybe apple looks at and goes oh we didn't really think we could do it that way or maybe we've just been resting on our laurels a bit maybe they got a new guy in charge so who knows what's gonna happen next we'll see which i'm very excited about oh very excited about it's fantastic au revoir alan dye so we have a board meeting we were gonna do it last time yeah but you weren't here and we didn't want to bother with you trying to fax in your forms so we figured we just push it thank you so much yeah um there's only three topics on there for the city's board meeting we need to draw this no we need to draw this meeting to an we need to open the meeting oh do you have like a gavel? I do hang on let me move my microphone just gonna belt the microphone yeah that's better kind of underwhelming but okay I've got a coaster hang on let me try again do it again it was really like dampened it's a plastic remote control that I'm using as my banger Can you use like your phone or like something with a little more substance? What have I got? Yeah, anything else? Use the iPod Hi-Fi. This is very business. A stapler? Okay. That should be good. Onto my coaster. Okay. That's better. That had a bit more of like a click. Yeah, that felt more gabbily. I like that. The meeting is now in session. Okay. I've never been clear on what our roles are. Like someone's legal, someone's finance. I'm finance. Who the hell? Yeah. Your finance. And who's HR? HR's always a joke. I'm finance. Yeah, I knew he was finance as a troll. But yeah, who's HR? It's like kids playing like some kind of make-believe. And he's like, I'm finance. I call it. Well, it's funny because, but Jason, you actually do handle the finances, right? I do, yes. Yeah. That's true. Shit, I've been undermined. That's what I mean. Well, he's finance manager, quote unquote. So, yeah. All right. First topic. The budget, funnily enough. Yeah. 2026 budget. Yes. Is going to be the same as 2025. And that is TBD. Okay. I can report to the board that we do have a declining revenue share. Oh. I think the juice has somewhat come out of the podcast market and ambitions for growth in the advertising and marketing realm haven't quite reached our expectations. We're facing some headwinds. I was going to say something, something headwinds. Yeah, yeah. And similarly, both customer sat and therefore subscriber growth has been in a downward spiral now. Wow. I was going to say decline, but downward spiral. I'm not going to single out anybody, but really sales and marketing probably need to lift their game. Okay. It might be related tangentially to the fact that we don't have a sales and marketing team. Yeah. Damn it. Yeah. And the fact that, yeah, I mean, I don't think we ever even talked about having one. No, no. So really business as usual. i could do everything myself don't i okay one prime plus dot com dot com sign up get on board and um yep buy domains from where do we want to buy domains from that pig place yep the pig play if you go to pigplace.com and place an order that would be great what's the pig place called it is pork bun when we started this we were like four we were like four or five younger four or five years younger there were people that are now on this planet that were not on this planet that we're responsible for now that we weren't responsible for then so we had so much time to deliver extra additional content for one prime plus nowadays we're old we're worn out we're jaded and we've got young other humans that we need to take care of i'm still young and very unjaded so well jason you are very youthful and uh you know you you have that zest you have a zest every call i have to say zesty as all get out martin's no longer a teenager so there's that true he did cross over finally yeah yeah happy birthday by the way martin thank you there's more on uh happy birthday i have a question about that at the end of this show we're still in the board meeting okay that's okay next topic anything else on the budget no we're moving on okay now i think we're going to spend what we're going to spend and that's pretty much how it's going to go. Okay. The next one is 2026, new year means we're going to be moving the show notes again because we move them annually. Yes. Such good news. Where they're going to move is again, TBD. I am pleased to hear this. I've not been happy with our current note solution for a while. Yep. We're moving it again because we do that every year and that's just, you know, changing of the guard, changing of the notes. That's how it goes. You know, I remember I used to be annoyed about this sort of thing, but then it just clicked. I just realized this is almost like the inevitability of seasons. Yeah. The fact that the sun will rise every morning. I know that we're going to change notes at least 17 times a year. It's the season of notes. Yeah, you're right. It's just once a year instead of four. Proton hasn't worked. Great. So I can't wait to see what revolutionary new service you choose that you'll be pissed off with in four months. That's absolutely right. Yep. And then the final topic I have here is I would like to motion to change Arcadia June. Wow. This is a big one. To something different. Also TBD. We still want to do something that involves the listenership, right? Competition. That's correct. Which may still involve Arcadia itself, but maybe a different format or who knows. That is correct. We've had fun with Arcadia. We love Arcadia and it doesn't represent a dislike of the applications, the games, the fun. I would consider the change to be additive. Let's put it that way. Yes. Motion approved? Motion approved? Can we go around the table all in favor? So sorry, the motion is that we may do something. That's correct. Yeah, the motion is something might happen. And I can't wait for time to get away from us. And it'll be May and be like, shit, we haven't confirmed anything. so everyone arcadia june is back unchanged exactly yeah that could happen that's that that's included in the umbrella of something this is a fantastically decisive board meeting we have just yep super cash super cash that's um if you could close the notes and no no no oh i can't there's always something there's always a chance at the end do we have any other business oh um i don't think so i was thinking about taking all of all of uh march and april off but we can talk about that in 26 okay on holiday yeah maybe we're taking this show on the road maybe i could do that breaks are allowed we haven't missed a fortnightly publication in five years in five years that's true i don't think that's a problem i'm gonna allow holidays no other business apparently i'm hr and I'm very benevolent. No other business. I will relinquish the rest of my time to the speaker. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Martin. You have any other business? Last chance? He does not. Okay. No. I just was pretending that I was frozen. Oh, okay. It almost worked. I just want to say on behalf of the board, I just want to thank all our members, our stakeholders. Yep. I love yous all. Board meeting adjourned. Okay. next topic. Andrew, did you pour away the stock? Was that supposed to be in the board meeting since it's talking about stock? No, no, this is just a quick one. It happened to me and I just wanted to, it was a cross hemisphere situation and I just wanted to make sure that brain farts happen in the northern and the southern hemisphere. They do, but they go the other way. you beat me to it i was gonna say the same thing hurricanes and it was just a silly thing the other day i um yeah i did a slow cooker roast slow cooked for 10 hours in a you know oh man in a broth and then the purpose then at the end of it you bring it out of the slow cooker and you you roast it in the oven for 20 minutes or so to brown it up and then with all the stock you then make a gravy sure which is fantastic but so what i did is i got a strainer out because you need to strain all the bits out of the the broth so that you can have a clear gravy yeah i held the strainer over the thing over the sink and then i got the broth and I poured it through the strainer. Into the sink. I collected all the bits and then I watched all my 10-hour broth go down the drain. Oh, no. And it was just like, hmm. I did everything except put something under the catch. I was so focused on the straining that I forgot the catching the stuff on the other side. You thought you were making pasta. Yes. Yes. Essentially. Yes. So, fortunately, we had some Gravox in the cupboard, which didn't quite have the same deliciousness. That's not the same at all. The kids said, like, oh, this gravy tastes like Bucking Bull, which is just like a takeaway joint or something where it sells roast beef rolls. Oh, my God. They obviously use Gravox. Well, we had some 10-hour gravy, but someone poured it down the drain. So not the end of the world. And I saw the funny side. I didn't get angry. I just laughed at myself and just said, brain fart. These things happen. Move on. And I just wondered if you guys, and particularly, you know, Northern Hemisphere people, you too have brain farts. I think so. Yeah. Both the term and the thing, you know, the act of pouring gravy down the drain. We have both. yeah i've already admitted to my brain farts like the when i locked a bike to nothing that's typical for me i was yeah i was gonna say this is just i kind of just call that like a day that ends in y at this point but yes we do have we do have those for sure okay you know when i read uh brain farts full stop i poured away the stock exclamation mark in the notes i just assumed even though port and stock is a bit of a giveaway about cooking i read stock and andrew when i see a basketball i just assume it's business yeah i thought you were going to make some sort of pun or strange reference to some sort of shareholder situation yeah yeah well you'd be right to think that let oh god he has something let me tell you i've just discovered a very cool new app you can run on picker pods or you can self-host it's called wealth folio and you can put all your stock holdings into Wealthfolio and track their performance. I'm not talking about Grayvox now, right? No, no, no. Unless you have Grayvox, like stock in Grayvox stock. Well, if you do, then yeah, that's good. That would be, yeah. You have to disclose that though. Oh, I would, I would. Okay. So yeah, Wealthfolio, check it out. It is available on Picker Pods, but it's a standalone project and it is a installable app, which I installed yesterday and I'm liking it. Is there a listing on slash save? No, because it's open source. This is the great thing about it. Oh, open source. Oh, okay. Yeah. So open source or open source? Open source. Open Greybox. See, Americans would never be confused about that, but in Australia, it's like, sorry, did you leave the source open? Yeah, yeah. No, no. Did you put it in the fridge? The source is open, but the source is also open. But I've always found that funny, like certain words. Sorry, I'm deriding this a bit. like americans will distinguish pawn and porn yeah right yeah but then there's that show hardcore pawn which they think sounds really funny because it's like oh it sounds a bit like porn but in australia we just say the same say the same way they're both porn so when someone says hardcore pawns on tv we go whoa wait a minute that's two completely different words yeah but we say it the same way do we so you're saying sauce and source and we're going like just pawn anyway source porn It's all happening. Free open source software. Yeah, exactly. Wealthfolio. Don't pour away that stock. Don't pour it away. All right. Now I have a question. I hinted at something about birthdays before. So I'm going to ask Jason first. I don't like going first. Go ahead. We've just all crowded around. We're singing happy birthday to someone in the room. The happy birthday song finishes. What happens next, Jason? We're sitting in a room. we're singing happy birthday we finish singing happy birthday what happens next in the proceedings of any birthday occasion i'm not worried about copyright issues at this point no no no we've well we we've sung it but we're not singing it right oh okay i mean for the purpose of the recording so happy birthday happy birthday done songs finished what happens i mean does everybody like everybody cheers and claps and is excited what would you do what would you do at a family birthday i guess i would clap and cheer okay andrew what would you do yes so i don't what comes after you finish saying happy birthday i don't like this and i always feel a bit cringy about it what the hell would you do what does happen is somebody will say hip hip and everyone else goes hooray and then oh absolutely not no that's not happening you gotta do it three times but jason does anyone do that or have you ever done it in america never see i love because this came up recently natasha brought it up and apparently it was a thing she saw on instagram where an australian was in america they finished singing happy birthday and she instinctively started saying hip hip and everyone went what the hell is wrong with this person that's that's the reaction you'd probably get i thought what a great bit of hemispheric fodder right for the podcast natasha was like you got to bring this up and i was like oh my god because to me that's a reflex i would be in the state of you know pick your american state here and i would shout out hip hip and people would go no do you need some attention what's wrong with you everyone in the room would turn to you all at once and like the record scratch would happen and everybody like be like what what's happening if you if you really want to go further than that we get into for he or she's a jolly good fellow so wow yeah so you don't like it andrew okay so jason i don't like it i feel i feel like it's silly i feel like it's it's a bit daft no you gotta do the hip hip hooray it's fun jason do you understand what we're Clearly this is the extrovert speaking. Jason, do you understand what we're actually talking about? Do we need to reenact it? I don't understand what you're talking about, Andrew. Could you guys reenact it so that maybe I could understand what you're talking about? To you. Hip hip. Hooray. Hip hip. Hooray. Hip hip. Hooray. It always has to be three times. And then everyone claps as you recommended Jason. Is that when the kangaroos come out after that? Or is it before? Yeah, and they're all wearing hats with dangly corns. Right, and they're throwing boomerangs around? Yes, absolutely. Yes, those really, really tasteless ones you get from souvenir shops where no one who actually is culturally tied to it would have made it. Absolutely, yeah. Okay, so hip, hip, hooray, kangaroos, meat pies. Perfect. Anyway, this is my call to action for everyone listening. Australians are doing it already, I think, either willingly or unwillingly. We've already ascertained who on the podcast is into it and who isn't. But for anyone in the Northern Hemisphere, in the US, any country, I'd encourage you to start it. It doesn't matter if it's a kid's birthday or an adult's birthday. If it's totally unexpected, I want you to yell out hip hip and lean into it. Question, follow up question. Yes. Do they do happy birthdays in restaurants there? Yes, they do. Depending on the restaurant. And then does a corresponding hip, hip, hooray happen there as well? It does. Often. From patrons, yeah. But my favourite thing is when you typically go to somewhere like, they're less common now because of COVID, but I'm thinking like there was an old buffet restaurant called Bon Appetit at a local club, which doesn't exist anymore. Or you would go to like Thai or Vietnamese or Chinese restaurants and somehow they would get their hands on these happy birthday tracks, which weren't the proper song. It was like, happy birthday. And then the music would continue. There was like two U or no name because it's just a generic thing. And then it would end with like, happy birthday. Words trial off. Happy. It was just like full of gaps. And everyone would just be kind of like going kind of like on the offbeat or something. And then you get the hip hip hooray. They didn't want to get sued. It's a really janky experience. They didn't want to get sued. They were like, oh, we're not, we're not getting, we're not going to get sued by the happy birthday people. But just great. And I don't know where these people were getting these tracks from. I'm like in the year before streaming or something, is there some sort of, you know, collective of East Asian and Southeast Asian restaurant music libraries or something? It was great. It's like elevator music. Like there's a, I think they all kind of get the same elevator music and there's probably a place where you get like generic restaurant music. And that's just like one of the tracks that's in there. I bet. Probably like, yep. Do you want the standard birthday track or the upgraded birthday track? And they're like, no, we'll take the free one. How's that time machine working out, Andrew? I've given up on it. Stupid time machine. I don't know what happened, but it lost its, you know, how they just sometimes lose the old time machine and you're like, oh, you got to start again. So I started it again and I waited hours and hours and hours, like 10 hours. And then it was like time machine, 1% complete. It's like, what was it? You were at 80 something when I last looked and now you're at 1% and it's nothing. And I'm out. This isn't on your 32 gigabyte RAM iMac or something with a Fusion drive. You haven't gone back in time with your hardware. It's the network drive. And I don't know if I'm because I'm networked. It's a network time machine. I don't know if it's because I'm networked back to a Sequoia installation. But I was like, no, stuff it. I'm not going to see her waste time. So I deleted time machine. Dead to me. Don't have it anymore. It's pretty insufferable. Do you have back plays? Yeah. But not on this computer. That's only on my storage computer, which is probably still fine. Fair enough. and i've never really used why don't you just back it up to the storage computer then how what do i use obviously rsync obviously jason you need to do one of your world famous like mind i haven't seen one of them in a while jason you do these okay for people who know what i'm talking about jason does really good like flow chart mind map here's how everything in his house connects on some corporate level oh kind of thing they're great he needs a map yeah like the way andrew does spreadsheets and omni-focus stuff you do the mind i just need somebody to tell me how to get my time machine to actually work i don't think it's possible so anyway it's dead to me i'm not going to back up anymore i'm living on the edge yeah i think that's so instead so what i thought i was hoping i'd get better tech support from a guy who is kind of a big kind of big name in the tech community isn't that right jason tecker jason john johnny suruji no no you're bigger than him now because something happened to you. Oh. It was a Segway, you idiot. Oh, a Segway. Damn it. Missed it. It went right off from my internet. Too many Segways in the show. It was like a drive-by Segway. Oh, gee. Hacker News. Do you know about Hacker News? It's like Slashdot, I guess, but new. I don't know. Right, yeah. Isn't it Y Combinator? Yeah, I think so. I'm not really. I'm not up with the hip kids these days. But I was getting a lot of traffic on my internet website, and I was concerned. And then I dug into it a little bit, and I guess I was, I call it drive-by hacker news, because it wasn't like a direct link to it, but it was like the first comment of the article. And surprising nobody, it was about touch ID buttons, because that is, those two articles just get the most hits forever. Ever. Since the day I wrote them, they've just constantly been getting barraged with people. And everybody wants a freaking touch ID button and they won't make one. It's very weird to me. But yeah, it was just kind of, it's fun when that happens, when it kind of comes back around and people are like excited about it again. And then apparently there's only four or five articles on the internet about it, which is interesting. And some of those are mine. So there you go. Well done. I just gave you another hit. I just went to part two. Oh no. Which came up first in my search result. Oh no. Don't know where part one is. Oh, previous post. Yeah, we'll give you a link there. There you go. Bang, bang. I did link it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So, Jason, does this make you some sort of guy? Does this reach a guy level? I hope not. He's Touch ID guy. Like a drive-by guy? I could be a Touch ID guy. I don't know if I want to be a drive-by guy. That might be... You don't want to be... I know. It could be misinterpreted. You don't want to be Touchy guy either. That's a bit... Touchy guy? This is getting worse. It's a bit weird. You don't want to be the ID guy because then it sounds like you're checking uh no yeah let's just stay away no let's just leave it as it is just a guy just another just another person on the internet i hope your server held up it did actually surprisingly um until usually it holds up fine until like half the internet goes down which seems to happen every other week now but thanks cloud flow so far so good martin i'm so sorry you've got a heck of an edit that's okay it's my lot in life and the great thing is that andrew you always used to be blamed for doing the most chapter headings, chapter markers. It's true. I have been noting the rough timestamps of what we've been doing. And Jason's going to have the poops with me unless I do something about it. Oh, no. Well, that's how many topics there are. What do you want me to do? We'd have to, like, restart the board meeting and make a motion for no more chapter markers. We'll just throw out everything about podcasting. It's like, here's your audio file, something, something, Spotify, Joe Rogan. Here you go. Watch it on YouTube. No. Check it on Spotify and YouTube. Yeah. Yeah. f***ing Spotify. I hate, no, no. But they're revolutionizing audio, Jason. They're not, though. They're consumer friendly. It's great, you know. The thing about them, though, is that they're not. I know, and I'm saying all of that facetiously. If anyone believed what I just said, rewind and hit the sarcasm, please. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Well, on that aggressive note, that's another hemispheric view. Yes. I'm Jason. Nobody reads the notes anyway. So, like, chapters, nobody reads them. We might need another poll. I agree with you, Andrew. We need another Mastodon poll. What was that, Martin? Well, the people on Mastodon read notes. What about everybody else? I'm trying to confuse listeners at this stage because Andrew's always trying to put in that thing where we say who we are. Hi, I'm Andrew. No, you're not. No, you're Martin. Stop confusing people, Martin. Three, two, one. Should I do my American accent just to really confuse people? What? Do what? Should I do my... Well, hi, I'm Andrew. It's so bad It's just so bad I'm calling you Alabama Canyon Three Three Two One Stop.