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so we're talking about one note yeah one note yeah andrew's favorite app we we're using a whole entire system this this show note system uh for one literally one note and that begs the question why don't we just use one note it's in the name we are yeah yeah but no we're not one note for one note one note for one note yeah one note in hack md or hack md one note hack md one do you reckon there is like a hack md out there like a doctor hack there has to be right there's got to be i think so dr hack

yeah this that is not how you want doing surgery on you though like that's you roll you roll into the er and it's like all right dr hack like nope i'll never mind i'll take my chances just outside i'm good yeah dr william or willie hack w hack whack whack md no that sounds terrible that's the point speaking of hack we have a hat giveaway hat is that hack hat if you say it in australian enough it's the same word hack hat hack hat that's true yeah i guess you're just trying to confuse our american

co-host don't you he'll just accept it if you keep sure if you take one word and butcher it into another word then yes we do have a hat giveaway it is quickly closing in on the end of the giveaway not subscription submission timeline um we have the the winter knit cap bespoke i think this is an accurate description or use of the word bespoke i think people use bespoke a lot Am I using it correctly here?

I'm not sure,

but I think so.

Pretty much.

It's like a handmade,

you know,

unique,

only one kind of thing.

It's not the way people mass produce like bottled water and then call it,

you know,

artisanal when they mean artesian,

right?

Yeah.

Or bespoke when it's mass produced.

We didn't mass produce 40,000 t-shirts and call it bespoke.

We didn't do that.

So according to the macOS dictionary app,

Bisco,

bespoke,

made for a particular customer or user.

So not really,

because it's not made for a particular,

well,

I guess it was made for a particular person.

It's just not made for the particular person that will end up with it.

The kind of person who listens to this show.

You're fully dismissing fate here in the sense that the hat may have been divinely created for said person.

Maybe this is all just Immaculate hat-ception.

it could it could it could be it could be so bringing it back to the original topic um we've got one if that has not already enticed you one count it one of one there's only one in the entire i was gonna say entire world but entire universe existence of everything there's one there will only ever be one uh winter continuum of life the entire yeah all of the all of the metaverses even that's included there's still only one so you should enter the the entrance form is of course in the show notes that

nobody reads uh and you can enter to win this hat all you gotta do is literally put an email address in there so we can contact winners that's that's the bar we're setting it's very high i understand but we do need a way to contact you so that we can figure out where to send the hat but it's a beautiful hat uh for anybody that does not already know what this hat is just a quick recap um valerie made this cap i like that yeah it's a recap re-hat if you will uh valerie made this hat it is in our in

our hemispheric fuse color so it's the blue and the orange slash yellow for the Southern hemisphere folks,

um,

that don't know colors,

uh,

that it can be reversible.

So if you want to have a little bit of Southern in your life one day and a little bit Northern the next day,

you can do that.

And then around the brim is the lovely green scream and green as we call it here.

And you can reverse it,

go back and forth.

It's that but we wanted to keep the contest going and make sure enough people had time to enter so enter now to win this super awesome hat and you will have literally a one-of-one item that no one else in the world will ever have and i think it's fair to say that it is a divine object because you know we joked about immaculate hat-ception before but it was in fact generously made by valerie as you said who is a woman without any intervention or encouragement or involvement from male co-hosts or any

other men.

It's true.

Or,

you know,

related to this show.

It's true,

yeah.

It's great.

Get into the hat.

So get in there,

enter,

and win a really sweet hat.

What is this,

listener corner?

Well,

no,

listener corner is when people submit stuff.

See,

we've got so many corners that they're folding and bending.

That's different,

yeah.

That's when people submit,

like,

audio clips.

Okay.

This is listener mail slash follow-up because we talked about plungers,

not toilet plungers.

You would think,

listening to the last episode,

we were going to talk about toilet plungers for 45 minutes.

We are not.

Maybe we will in the future.

We don't know.

The only time we talk about toilets is when we're buying artworks.

Exactly.

Correct.

Herons,

brawlers,

that sort of thing.

Herons and artwork is where the bathroom comes into play.

Yeah,

this was the plunger on Martin's coffee maker that we talked about.

The plunger going bad and having some leakage.

Not good.

You don't want leakage in your plunger.

We got several emails from folks saying,

Hey,

dummy,

just go buy a new plunger for your fancy coffee machine.

So there you go.

You can get replacement plungers.

So when Martin's goes away in the next three to eight years,

he can go get a replacement for that and he'll be set.

Well,

that's good to know because the AeroPress that I use actually lives at my newer work.

You remember I mentioned that I got it as a gift from where I used to work years ago when I was at uni,

that Apple reseller.

It now lives in the office where I work as kind of like the work coffee apparatus.

The actual plunger,

and I'm using double inverted like quote marks here.

Yeah.

For those who can't see me on our call.

Yeah,

I use a thing called a Tchaikovsky.

Of course you do.

Are you familiar with the Tchaikovsky?

Isn't that violent?

I didn't buy it.

Is that like the AK-47?

No,

it's not that violent.

It's just purely for coffee.

Oh,

okay.

It was a re-gift,

right?

So my in-laws received it from someone,

didn't want it because they have their own espresso machine and they re-gifted it.

It's like this,

I'm pretty sure it's an Australian invention which replaces the traditional coffee plunger with a kind of,

it's more like a micro mesh steeping tea compatible thing where you put the coffee grounds into the micro mesh thing,

dip it into the jug and then it kind of does its thing and then you lift it out,

tilt it and then you have your nice coffee.

So it's like plunging without plunging.

So it's Australian made,

but it's called the Chai Kofsky?

Yes,

but Chai spelt like C-H-A-I and then it's C-O-F-F-S-K-I.

Of course,

it's a play on words.

So,

for people who are into classical music and weird,

you know,

homophone puns or whatever it is about tea and coffee,

there's the Tchaikovsky.

Yeah,

that's what we're here for.

That's all I had to say,

just to waste time.

All right,

so there you go.

If your plunger goes bad,

get a new plunger.

Coffee and follow-ups.

We're on coffee corner,

Andrew.

Yeah,

we are,

we are.

just moved this up because it was such a,

it's related.

So we will have remembered Martin's amazing advertisement for his Swiss brewed decaf coffee or whatever it is.

Yes.

That organic water process.

Yes.

Organic Swiss water process,

I think is what you're looking for there.

Yes.

So Martin is now the modern day influencer.

Yeah.

Ooh.

Yeah.

He's a decaffeinated influencer because listening to his description of this,

I was like,

hmm,

I'm going to get myself a bit of this coffee that's not coffee because it's not caffeinated.

I've never really drunk decaf coffee in my life.

Good reason.

Yeah,

because what's the whole point of coffee?

To be caffeinated.

So why would I spend a lot of money on a starter kit to be decaffeinated?

The only reason I've done that is because Martin influenced me.

did you use slash feld 2026 i looked for a coupon code i couldn't find feld's coupon code but i found some new customer coupon code that got me kind of like 10 off oh that's nice so that's good it's currently shipping so i don't have it yet but i expect to get it and i'll provide a follow-up so the follow-up is that you're going to provide follow-up yes i told my partner that i'd purchased decaffeinated coffee and she said that i'm an idiot and that's what's the point which is my thought and my extent

in that assessment relates to me yeah but i think she hadn't been she hadn't really listened to the pitch from martin so if she'd heard the pitch it would have oh yeah sold she probably would have also ordered another set Just the same Yeah Yeah So I'm looking forward To getting my starter kit Did you get the starter kit Martin?

Is that what you got?

It seems to come With two bottles And something else Yeah And the little scoop thing Which funnily enough I think it says You should use I might be misremembering I think it says You should use 15 mil Right Of the coffee concentrate But the scoop Is like a standard 20 mil So you have to Oh my goodness So it's like You gotta work for it You gotta estimate That 5 mil underneath right and i bet you it'll be a curvy spoon right so there's not like an even distribution that i can go it's yeah it's gonna

be it's it's like a little scoop scoopy it's like a hemisphere as it were oh yeah so that makes that makes it hard that makes it hard to measure martin because then you haven't got equal if you if you like slice into that you know if you imagine it it was a square you could then go three quarters of that is precisely 15 mils oh i think you want You want a cubic spoon.

Yeah,

your surface area at the top is greater than the surface area at the bottom,

which throws out your math when you're trying to estimate.

So,

does this apply?

So,

if you had a spoon which was in the shape with its scoop of a rectangular prism,

you would also be happy with that because then it would be the equal distribution.

It's not the square itself.

It's the corners.

It's the right angles.

Yeah,

yeah.

If you have like a little shallow corner,

you've got to That's less volumetrically than the top of the scoopy bit.

The top of the Do you know what I love about this,

Andrew?

like over 150 episodes into this show not including even more than we've done for one prime plus as member specials i'm still learning and being surprised about the things that bother you it's great oh there's so many things the shape of spoons is is not satisfactory i just i do everything by weight instead i find that to be so much easier you slap that scale right on the counter and you just measure everything all the time always be measuring that's what they say That was like in Glen Gary,

Glen Ross,

right?

They said always be measuring.

That's what they said.

So you're suggesting that Andrew should measure the equivalent of one tiny coffee scoop,

right?

15 mil of coffee and then weigh it.

And then now you know that it's,

you know,

three grams or whatever.

Done.

I need a very precise kitchen scale.

You need one or you're going to get one?

Well,

now I've been influenced.

I'm going to have to get one,

but it'll have to be very precise.

How about you just go with the starter kit?

See how you go in the world of dangerous risky estimates relating to coffee spoons.

On a note,

you just want him to enter something on his depreciation spreadsheet.

If I double it out,

it's not like I'm going to be over caffeinated,

am I?

The net result is still nothing.

You're just going to be twice as bored as you were before.

It's a flavour thing.

You'll be fine.

You might actually find that you want to embellish a bit with the ratios based on the taste.

Go hard.

Free your mind.

You may even decide,

hey,

that was pretty good.

I'm going to,

you know,

have a real coffee now.

to like offset that you could mix an espresso into your decaf coffee now we're talking with my spice it up with an aeropress yeah exactly all right anyway that's enough of that thumbs up thumbs up thumbs up it's a really really really packed notes from none of you today um it's it's just Just me in a corner by myself.

Well,

I went there and I found it all pretty interesting.

And I thought,

well,

why would I extend it?

This is good.

Sometimes you just have to listen.

I am going to include Martin in this though.

So.

Oh,

good.

Yeah.

So the first one.

Hello,

I'm Martin.

Yeah,

this is Martin.

He's going to,

he's going to join in here in just a second.

I'll,

I'll,

I'll throw to you when it's,

when it's your turn.

Okay.

Oh,

please let me know.

Yeah.

I'll give you the cue.

First one is a game called Bowser's Fury.

It was kind of like an add-on to the other Mario game that was on the Switch,

and I didn't play it for many,

many years.

It's a delight.

I recommend it highly.

You should check it out if you are into those kinds of games.

The second one,

Don't Note.

It's just fun to say,

Don't Note.

It is an Android app for notes.

It is a kind of ephemeral,

chuck some text in a place that I just need right I don't need to,

this is not a full blown notes system.

This is just a,

I need a little scratch pad on my phone to put a number real quick or some information that I will then do something with later or probably more likely delete.

Cause I don't actually need it forever.

And this is from Martin over to you.

I am aware of this individual on Mastodon and I think I saw your exchange with him and I think it's Pavel.

That's what I was going to say Okay I was going to say that He's Polish he's a nice guy Powell But I thought it was more like a V Like a Pavel Oh look I can do certain things With European kind of pronunciations And accents linked to my Like half of my background But Polish is a different level Of difficulty that I'm not going to pretend That I know And I know that just saying Mount Kosciuszko in Australia He's probably if he's listening He's like Martin you fool That's not how you say it But that's

how we say it here okay Just deal with it.

I'm going with Pavel.

Pavel.

All right.

I did a school project on Poland in year seven.

I thought you were going to say you did a school project on Pavel.

I didn't know if that's concerning.

I did.

I wrote a very long.

This is before computer.

So I had to go to libraries and research and then handwrite and then cut out and,

you know.

Oh,

my gosh.

Color in.

Very comprehensive.

That's almost as interesting as decaf coffee,

Andrew.

Very comprehensive project on Poland.

So therefore,

I am well in tuned as to how to pronounce his name.

Okay.

Go for it.

Help me out.

Oh,

wow.

Okay.

Paul.

Paul?

Paul.

Actually?

Really?

Paul.

Okay.

I hope like hell that they are hearing all of these three pronunciations.

I don't doubt it because I know that it's very different.

I'm just reading it the way.

I actually,

to be real,

I actually have no idea,

but I'm just going to,

that's my Australian interpretation.

Okay.

Paul.

So,

you're bullshitting us.

You're making us even more humiliated and embarrassed.

No,

I'm not bullshitting about the project.

The project is absolutely true.

I learned a lot about Poland in year 7 but not out pronounced I was 100% buying that the whole way when you said the way you said it I was like oh okay great this is perfect it was like the prophecy was realised like all that time ago you know before the shorthand before the bluebird ethernet he was there with the world book encyclopedia school library knowing that one day that investment in Polish school research would come to fruition on a podcast with two other nerds about the pronunciation of

a mastodon user's name so what we have to do paul if you're listening mate paulie help us out well now that we've completely ruined their day he needs to send a a what do you call them an audio message listen to corner submission yeah yeah we need we need to hear it we need to hear from the mouth of insert name how the best way to pronounce that that name is so just to clarify so we've got we've got three options between us so i'm saying paul martin you're saying pavel and jason i was actually going

pavel pavel kind of like okay okay well there you go kind of extend extending that out a bit but i don't know so i guess we'll see we're trying to enrich our own knowledge here we're trying to increase the diversity of this show we need to know please but also the app is really good don't note back to the reason i'm talking about don't note is a love is it is it don't note or do dotate no it's dotate actually uh dotate naughty i think is how they say it yeah crap it's a really good app if you are

on android and want just like a good place to kind of just chuck stuff that you just need right now like open up it's blank it's a place to put text and you can do whatever you want with it um check it out it's great so kind of like tote i mean tot yes exactly tote or drafts yeah very yeah less so like drafts in the sense that it's not like an infinite bucket it's like just a couple of places oh yeah to chuck stuff and then you can it's much more like tote i believe it's infinite bouquet bouquet

yes um also look i think it's great uh we need to learn more and if people want to submit stuff for listener corner we welcome it right i mean provided you're not offensive i mean who knows if we just were but i think this is really highlighted arrogance ignorance as uh english speaking people so um paul paul if you really want to be offended um i encourage you to send in a photo of your desk oh yeah remember so we can insult him further you always do we used to i'm aware of that yeah yeah we did

some You can even join One Prime Plus and you can get offended that way as well,

because he provides offensive replies via One Prime Plus generally every time.

So there's many ways in which you can become of the offended group.

We've mentioned One Prime Plus a couple of times now,

and this is the first I've heard of this particular item.

so well i just wanted to announce something pretty big it is our new groundbreaking one prime plus bundle this is this is new it's groundbreaking it's it's similar to the creative bundle from apple that they just released in that it's new and groundbreaking and by new and groundbreaking it's the exact same thing as you had before with shittier icons but but says groundbreaking so that's that's it that's the press release okay are you guys are you guys excited very excited yes and uh and if people

sign up to this very confusing plan uh which we populate occasionally thank you everyone for your patience you will receive the recent december members special where we spoke about favorite dvd menus of yesteryear and uh i know this is in keeping with the theme of the previous regular episode cutting edge modern stuff right this is what you want and if you if you want to get really excited the member special to be released soon will be all about uh my recent camera repair which is riveting stuff

if you want to hear about broken things you said old stuff but really you could you could argue that this show is unlike many timeless ah beautiful yeah so i'll just leave you with that so yeah everything old is new again new groundbreaking one prime plus bundle um literally exactly the same thing as it was yesterday but it now has groundbreaking in the title we should have a new icon for it though It should just be sort of two crayon drawn arrows.

One up,

one down.

Yeah,

yeah.

Maybe a half a circle.

Just really simplify it,

you know,

really let the content shine.

With a volume fader or something in there,

just to make sure that it looks like audio in some vague sense.

I talk about this stuff like I care.

I really don't.

But that thing that somebody posted about the reversal of the icons being somebody getting really good at icon design yeah pages was it the funniest shit i have seen in so long it was just like because you look at it and you go oh my god that's exactly what it is because it's just like generic oblong pencil outline to like nice crazy like quill ink holder thing with the photo realistic yeah yeah it's so funny it's just which you could argue like that that original pages icon with that old kind of

is it like an inkwell is that what it is it's like yeah yeah it is okay that that's a bit of an anachronism and maybe people looking at that would go what the hell is that but i think there were some comments that i saw related to that post where as you went a little bit further in it was like before it went super simple with like just the angles just the pen on the line which i might argue i think is going the wrong way because if you drag like it's kind of drawing into itself like pushing right

anyway i think that those ones in the middle are probably better in terms of signifying what they actually mean now it suggests it's a drawing app which is not what it is i don't know like when i look at i don't i don't mean to dive in i'm sorry we can cut this out but like we've done it now when i look at that set of icons with no i think of it on remembering back to ios days where you could you could remove the i assume you can still do this you can remove the text from the icons right if you make

them large i think that's the only way you can do it if you do that i see no logical way to understand what in the hell those apps are specifically pixelmator pro which had a lovely icon before it was absorbed into the bowels of whatever this is now what the hell is that icon now what is that It's a bit like shortcuts or something.

I don't even know what it's supposed to be.

I think they're going for like,

it's about layers.

But again,

layers of what?

It looks like an SDK thing,

I think.

So,

someone saying it looks like all those kits.

So,

I think the real shame is that they've bought their own flat trend that started with iOS 7 so much that they've now gone around to copying what the other companies like Google and Microsoft did in copying them.

So now all the icons kind of look like,

you know,

Google's material design thing or how all of the Microsoft apps are just these weird abstracted shapes on the same white or black background.

It's branding.

They've kind of copied the copiers.

You've got to maintain your branding consistency.

It just feels like everything is designed now for eight designers who have been in a room together for three and a half years versus a brand new person to the platform.

there's no chance in hell anyone's going to understand what those things are.

There's also a bit of a myth,

I think.

You know how these days people say,

oh,

you know,

these kids now,

they're digital natives.

They don't need these icons or things that look like buttons to tell them what it is.

They're growing up with it.

And I'm like,

well,

no,

you kind of do because in an evolutionary sense,

humans are exactly the same.

A 10 to 15 year old now is exactly the same as a 10 to 15 year old when I was that age or when either of you were that age.

You know what I mean?

You're growing into a system and trying to understand what these things actually actually mean so what is the point of a graphical user interface if it is not going to visually show you what things mean right yeah you're not people have not changed to the point that they don't need visual affordances if they can see yeah the whole point of the g is that it's supposed to be a thing i can recognize so i think they're really undoing their legacy uh at this point yeah from what i can tell of digital

natives as well from what my observations of the younger generations is they're crappier with computers than we are like they have no because of this stuff like they just they're not so the idea of helping digital like digital natives just know it they don't they're terrible with computers does digital native just mean they know what tiktok is it's just a ridiculous term that came up ages ago to describe someone who was born into a digital environment which i suppose you could argue i kind of was

but i think the difference is that,

and I don't want to fall into that kind of,

oh,

you know,

this generation thing.

It's Go for it.

Everyone's the same,

right?

As they grow up.

But the difference was that I remember I grew up and I went to school and had computer lessons,

which sounds kind of ridiculous now,

but this is formative stuff.

I remember being taught how to use,

you know,

word processors through to Excel spreadsheets,

navigating file systems,

that sort of thing.

And Natasha being a school teacher does things like that in the classroom and managing iPads and other computers.

But the problem is i think in leaving it to oh they'll grow up with it that's fine married with changing design trends that rebut companies own human interface guidelines and the saturation of social media apps that do not prioritize humanistic design in fact they prey on you with algorithmic crap you marry all those things together and kids with the same needs that we all grew up with in separate eras or times right uh you know they're growing up with that kind of ignorance or a different set of

values and using computers so i wouldn't say that they are different It's the environment they've been born into,

which is ripping them off.

Back in my day,

I had a Commodore 64 with a shoebox with the side cut off over my hand,

so I couldn't see how I was typing.

Okay.

Amen,

brother.

Andrew knows.

He knows about that.

I know.

Did they do shoeboxes in Australia?

It was a tea towel,

usually.

Oh,

tea towel.

Yeah,

that's right.

I think we talked about that probably 137 episodes ago.

Still pays off today.

So as we're saying,

oneprimeplus.com,

it's in the long game.

It is.

It's such a long game.

This game is,

there has been no game longer than this one.

Yeah,

if I'd known it was going to be this long,

I maybe never would have started.

Like people think Monopoly goes on forever.

No,

Monopoly is a very short game in the grand scheme of games.

And you get rich in Monopoly.

You do.

Yeah,

yeah,

that's true.

One person does.

One person has a handful of shit properties.

One person has all the cash because they've been skimming off the top because they were the banker.

Yeah,

it is capitalism gamified.

It's true.

It is utter truth.

Yeah.

So how's your network doing,

Andrew?

Are we,

you're looking better.

I feel like you're not as Was that his net worth?

Are you asking a personal question?

No,

not net worth.

We do a different show for that.

This is network.

Oh,

sorry.

We Australians say them the same way.

Joining to,

yeah,

Canyon's finance cast.

That's the one you want to get on board with if you want to know about net worth.

God,

can you imagine that?

Just you droning on for hours about spreadsheets and depreciation and taxes.

This show.

Yeah.

It would be brilliant.

Look how excited he got,

though.

He's like,

maybe I should do that.

Anyway,

that's not what we're here to talk about.

We're here to talk about my network.

Some people would want that.

This was so important to me that it forced me into writing a blog post and doing a diagram.

Like,

it was...

That's big.

Look,

if you want the full detail,

read the blog post.

If you want to see the diagram,

read the blog post or go to the Discord where I also posted it.

But short story is my home Ethernet setup,

which I had contractors install about a year ago,

I suddenly realized when running some,

trying to run some file transfers through to my server,

I was like,

this thing seems slower than it should be.

So by doing iPerf,

good old iPerf,

they send packets across the network to one another.

I realized it was running at like 97 megabits per second,

not close to a thousand.

And you know what that means,

Jason?

Bad cable.

There you got it.

You know what else it means?

Which bloody cable?

I would say just look at your unified network topology and dial into where it says that it's fast Ethernet instead of gigabit.

That's what I would do.

Yes,

I don't quite have that.

I don't,

you know,

because I don't have,

I can't even figure out how to buy ubiquity stuff,

let alone install it.

That would be a hurdle to get over,

yes.

Honestly,

I've tried going to that website to buy stuff because I've been tempted.

And then I look at the website and I'm like,

can I even buy it in Australia?

And then when I finally find what I think might be the Australian site,

what do I want?

I don't know.

And I know about.

So anyway,

I had to do it the old manual way.

Unfortunately,

I had no memory of how the network was configured by the contractors.

Did you not just look at the full wiring diagram that they provided to you after you paid for installation?

Well,

you see,

I think I got a really good deal.

And they did good physical work.

But I'm going to say the documentation was lacking.

Yeah.

You know what comes with a good deal?

A pain in the ass.

So I took it upon myself to trace back my network and re and like think through and figure out what was going where.

And I thought this is a good time for me to do my own diagram.

And use the app.

As Borat said,

my hub is.

Use the app Curio,

which I highly recommend.

Curio?

Curio by Zen Gobi.

It's an incredible app.

Okay.

I don't know that one.

Get on board.

We're all learning today.

Get on board.

It's great.

Get on board.

Get on board.

word that's curio.com slash canyon 2026 it's like if you imagine freeform by apple that was actually really good i'm i'm struggling to think of freeform being really really good so anyway if i stretch my imagination really really hard i think i get it if you subscribe to create a studio it is really good oh okay got it yeah it's better when it's 9.99 a month Verse free.

Got it.

It's true.

Okay.

So,

anyway,

I did my diagram,

figured out my network,

and then started working backwards,

you know,

collecting directly to the mini,

then going layer,

layer out,

layer out,

layer out,

like an onion,

until I found the one bad cable.

Fortunately,

it wasn't internal cabling.

Fortunately,

it wasn't a port.

It was just a patch cable between a switch to the port was bad.

It was labeled,

you know,

gigabit,

what is it,

CAT 5E,

CAT 6 or whatever it is.

CAT 6A?

Yeah,

that one.

It had the right labels on it,

but it obviously had not been terminated well.

Threw that out,

put a new plug in and suddenly everything back up to speed.

Love that.

Feeling good,

guys.

Congratulations.

That is a relief.

You know what I'm getting from all of this,

Andrew?

Given,

you know,

the not frequent but semi-regular raising or mentioning of Ethernet on your part of the history of this show.

Whether it's a podcast,

whether it's blog posts,

whether it's just a categorization of all the things you've written over time.

I think we need to see the emergence of Andrew Kenyon's Ethernet diaries.

Because this is a theme in your life,

discussion of Ethernet.

It is true.

I do love it.

I love Ethernet.

See,

I told you.

And you could really,

you could like,

you could list it out.

You know,

these are the Cat 5 era.

And then you had the Cat 6A era.

And then in the future,

you'll have,

you know,

eventually Cat 7,

Cat 8,

something.

It's kind of like a collection or anthology of short stories or experiences based on your own passion for Ethernet.

That's great.

I remember back in the day,

you'd have coax with a terminating,

I think,

cable at the end.

It was just like a little See,

it's writing itself.

A little thing that stopped the network.

It was like running retic in your garden.

Basically the same premise,

yeah.

It was so good.

Oh,

and the one thing I did learn more about in this process as well,

because I thought for a moment that I had what is known as a network loop.

Oh,

you don't want that.

You don't want to get a spanning tree on that.

I thought I did.

It turns out I didn't.

I don't think I did anyway.

I don't now.

That's the good news.

I was a little nervous there.

Okay,

good.

No spanning.

You got your spanning tree protocols set up appropriately.

What's that?

Oh my gosh.

I don't know what a spanning tree is.

You don't want loops.

You got to get rid of those loops.

Or you got your RTSPs.

You got your RTSPs set up.

This sounds like a subplot to the Ethernet Diary.

This is like chapter eight easily.

This is a whole chapter.

Chapter eight.

This is advanced stuff.

I'm not sure I'm ready for this.

And I think you need to use Curio to map out the narrative of your Ethernet experience.

I think that makes complete sense.

Oh,

I should tell you as well,

I did post to the Curio forum with a link to my blog posted.

So,

I'm doing the whole social media,

you know.

Is that how that?

Okay.

Posse?

Do you have a project for this going in your Omni apps?

Yeah.

Did I?

Yeah,

I did.

Do you have a deferred task to check in on that post to make sure that there's engagement?

That's a good point.

Oh,

I'll get my weekly stats summary.

Okay.

My tiny lyrics.

Okay,

good.

I will get that.

yeah i hope it does good traffic oh it's gonna it's gonna do numbers we're gonna get some good numbers out of this maybe you guys could post it on mastodon and really juice it probably won't but yeah yeah no i don't think so and look meanwhile in the year 2026 i'm still ruminating uh on whether i should actually have some form of to-do list is that on the ruminate blog that hasn't been updated since 2022 well i haven't been putting it on my to-do list so that's why it doesn't happen See,

it's like a,

it's a cyclical thing.

Exactly.

I love a good cycle.

That blog used to be so good.

I felt like I really got to know you through that blog.

Yeah.

Thanks.

Yeah,

well,

you know,

then two children happened and we haven't missed a show in,

you know,

over five years.

That takes time.

And,

you know,

lots of other things.

I've got two children.

I'm doing a show.

My blog's still getting traffic,

getting posts.

Does one of them still wear nappies?

I don't know.

I have no children.

I do this show and I don't blog.

So what do you want from me?

I wrote a blog this year,

I think.

I think I've done one this year.

Yeah,

I think almost maybe one.

The RSS feed has been updating a lot.

Well,

the RSS feed is fixed now.

Maybe you've read the blog post about said experience.

So you should check that out.

I might have marked all as read when there were like 600 posts from Jason.

Well,

go back to the main.

See,

so,

okay.

No.

No,

you know what?

No,

not for today.

this is enough for today we're going to get into that another time i'm going to add that as a topic to the top you mean we can talk about rss for a big chunk of an upcoming podcast episode next one let me just add next show 156 are we going to talk about rss like which version and then we get to it's going to be xml or is it going to be there we go there we go okay we're done i'm not I'm not going to drag you guys into that in this episode.

I refuse to.

I'm going to segue to the iX500 scanner,

which is the most awesome thing ever.

And if you don't have one,

you should be jealous and be trying to acquire one at any cost.

I looked the other day to buy one,

but I couldn't find one for $40 or whatever you got yours for.

They were really expensive.

$40.

Quite literally the best $40 ever spent.

Man,

you need to buy one on my behalf.

I got a stack of tax forms today.

Stack of tax?

That was,

I don't know,

20 sheets front and back.

Chucked it in there.

That thing just purrs.

It's just done.

It does front and back at the same time.

It's just,

we talked about it already.

Everybody knows.

But man.

You're just doing scanner ASMR.

It's so good.

It is the,

so printers suck.

right yeah they do yeah they've never been good they never will be good ever full stop this thing is the pinnacle of computer accessory ever that's it nothing will surpass the ix500 scanner except maybe the little palm pilot thing that you could beam stuff to that was pretty freaking sweet that That was cool.

That was cool.

Okay.

That was cool.

But maybe next to that,

like equal is this scanner.

It's the best.

It's just incredible.

I think you're burying the lead though.

So you got tax documents.

Oh yeah.

In paper.

What is your government doing?

Why are you getting paper?

No,

this,

that's a very triggering question at this point.

Well,

actually that's a good point.

That is.

Okay.

Do you really?

Sorry,

I take it all back.

oh jason oh no well it started back in no we're not next topic well actually i was gonna say that rounds out the show so i reckon with a huge claim like that the challenge to listeners you know submitted in discord mastered on by email can you think of a more inspiring unbelievably fun or useful peripheral something like an accessory that connects to a computer than the scanner that jason is now in love with it can be either usb um we will accept serial connections parallel connections db what is

it db 15 parallel is acceptable as well yeah scuzzy really we're doing scuzzy yeah well yeah we'll open it up to to the scuzzy crowd i know there's some scuzzy fans out there that want to get involved.

So I'd say that's okay.

Scuzzmeisters.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Scuzzbusters,

as we call them.

Yeah,

let us know.

Best accessory ever.

That's the challenge.

That is actually a really good challenge.

Because I'm going to say it's nowhere near as useful as what you just said,

Jason,

but I was in love with my R2-D2 USB hub that I got from Japan that used to beep and whir and stuff whenever you plugged something in the front of him,

like he was interfacing with,

you know,

the shield generator doors in Return of the Jedi.

Do you still have this?

It was good stuff.

I think it actually broke.

Or is it like USB one?

So it's not really that useful now.

Oh,

it wasn't that useful.

No.

And that's why I wouldn't really say that it's an appropriate challenge for your scanner.

But it was fun.

And I can't remember.

Sorry if I'm repeating a story.

I've forgotten what we've said on this podcast.

Nobody remembers.

It's fine.

But I'm pretty sure I've told the story before when our old next door neighbor,

this is when I was living at home with family,

came over one day and just said that they thought a rogue budgie was like on the loose around the neighborhood.

And then they heard it,

went looking for it all around the house.

And it turns out she'd been driven mad for several months by the R2D2 USB hub that she could hear from next door.

Wow.

So,

sorry if I'm repeating myself,

but that is my favorite desk accessory ever.

How many ports did it have?

It had like four or six on the front.

I think there's a photo.

I'll drag it out for the show.

That's pretty good.

Okay.

I think my favorite that I can recall.

I don't know if this is my favorite.

The one that pops into my mind is my Canon flatbed scanner I had.

I think it was scuzzy.

Flatbed?

Oh,

my God.

Flatbed.

And it looked so nice.

The industrial design was so good back when they cared and it was heavy.

And I felt like such a boss.

I felt like I was like Mr.

Business in my bedroom.

And the resolution was like nuts probably.

Well,

yeah,

I could never use full resolution because the files were too big.

I can't fit it on a floppy.

Damn it.

Exactly.

But man,

that used to satisfy all my desires to be businessman in my bedroom.

Oh,

that's great.

I love that.

All right.

So there's the challenge.

There's the challenge.

Hey,

do we want to do that really lame social media thing where we get people to use a hashtag?

No.

That'd be fun.

Do we?

Okay.

Sure.

How does that work?

Okay.

Well,

are we calling them peripherals,

accessories?

What do we want people to say if they post?

Nobody can spell peripherals.

Are they even a thing on Mastodon?

Am I doing like a Twitter thing from ages ago?

I don't know.

Just tell us what you think.

They're a thing.

Just,

yeah,

I don't care.

It could be,

it could be,

you could fax it to us.

You could email it to us.

It'd just be nice if we could see them all together,

you know what I mean?

Yeah,

yeah.

Why don't we just,

we got an ambassador that can do this stuff.

Rob.

He's going to stitch him up.

Build an entire website for eight people to send in photos of old shit.

How about hashtag HV old desk shit?

That's really easy to type.

Just use the hashtag old.

I'm sure nobody's using that.

Yeah,

hashtag old.

No one's using that.

All right.

That means all three of us have to write a blog post about our favorite old piece of shit thing that connects to a computer.

I'm going to write on Lounge Ruminator about the R2-D2.

Yes!

Lounge Ruminator's back,

baby!

Wow,

look at this inspiring content.

Excellent.

This is my desk peripheral from 1994.

I just wanted to clue you all in on it.

And me and Jason are both going to write about scanners.

Wow.

Hell yeah.

Great.

Losers.

All right.

Count us down,

Jason.

 *outro music*