hv157.mp3

How about now?

Uh,

no,

hang on.

No?

No,

now it's going to be through my laptop speaker.

Hang on,

change that to AirPods.

Ah,

there we go.

There we go.

Flawless.

Wow.

Look at that.

156?

157?

Yeah.

Is that what this one is?

Yeah.

157.

It's getting worse.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

It seems like it should be consistent between them,

because nothing should really be changing,

but yeah,

every time.

I'm living on the edge.

living on the edge well liquid glass um yeah 157 it's uh it's me it's jason it's andrew andrew's here yep i'm here martin is uh an absent it's another chance for us to uh basically criticize him for 45 minutes or so yeah that's what we like we like about every 20 to 24 episodes for him to be gone so we can give like a real honest opinion about him yep i think i think it's good for us it's therapeutic it's good for the people listening and most importantly it's good for him it's good for him to have

good honest feedback that he can't reply to and can i just say one thing i know he's trying he's gone to magnet as his emoji now to me as much as he tried to change it he will forever be the foot the felt foot is forever yeah yeah yeah i mean let's face it if you look at a magnet just right it's a foot am i right so so jason i can see on the video i can see on the video you have you know you're not by yourself Normally,

you're in your man cave dungeon,

just you and some knickknacks.

Yep.

But today,

it's a little bit different.

You have a second human being with you.

It's true.

It's true.

We've traded out a Martin and we're replacing a Martin just for this episode.

It's okay.

For another special guest,

because if you remember back,

oh,

I don't know,

was it six,

eight,

27 months ago?

Something like that.

We started a drawing for a very special,

I believe we said it was a bespoke winter knit cap,

branded hemispheric views,

colors,

and tag.

One of one,

right?

Yep.

One of one.

I want it.

Everybody wants it.

Everybody entered.

I entered.

You want it.

You can't have it.

That's the greatest part about it.

I can't have it.

You can't have it.

Martin can't have it.

No one can have it that actually records the show.

we're finally at the point now here in February 2026,

where we are going to both draw and announce the winner of said cap.

Okay.

And who better to do that than the person who hand crafted,

and that's with two hands by herself with string or yarn,

as they call it into this hat.

So I wanted to bring on Valerie to both draw the name of the hat and And maybe just give a little once over on how this came to be.

So with that,

I will,

let's see,

we're in a very technological studio here of one microphone,

one headphones.

So I'm going to hand off my headphones and microphone position and I will hold said hat so that it can be drawn by Valerie.

All right.

So without further ado,

I will do that now.

Okay.

The changeover is happening.

Valerie is sitting in the chair,

the hot seat.

the headphones are on she's approaching the microphone she's gonna get really close to that microphone hi there hello valerie how's it going it's going good are you um feeling very comfortable in front of the microphone i am no absolutely not but i'm all about doing things that make me uncomfortable that end up being fun so this is good so so there's two things that you have now have the chance to do the first one is to you can criticize jason as much as you want because he will actually hear what

you're saying,

but he won't hear the context in which you're saying it.

So you can pretend that you're criticizing Martin,

but you can actually be criticizing Jason.

Oh,

man.

The floor is yours if you've got anything you want to say.

I don't know.

I'm going to,

this is where I choke.

You love him too much.

And I didn't think that it was going to happen so fast.

You love him so much.

I really do.

I really do.

There's nothing critical.

Maybe say a nice thing.

Okay,

let me ask you an easier question.

Can you explain how you make a Hemispheric Views cap hat?

Yeah.

Well,

first,

just the idea,

I guess,

came mostly because I've had a really great time watching you guys do this all these years.

And I'm usually knitting something or crocheting something.

And I was like,

well,

I don't know.

Other people have gotten involved in this podcast and I haven't really done anything.

but this could be a fun idea that I could do something to contribute.

And that's kind of just where that idea came from.

And I was thinking,

well,

what could I do?

And I threw a couple ideas around and I was like,

a hat would be really fun.

And so I looked around for patterns to kind of get a place to start from.

And I knew what I wanted to do.

I knew I wanted to make it reversible so that you'd have both of the colors and you could wear it either way you wanted to.

And I thought the green would be really fun to do the edging with.

There's a yarn brand that I like a lot that has about a billion different colors.

So I figured surely I can find colors that look like your guys' logo colors.

And what colors are those?

It's important for you to declare.

Okay,

well,

here we go.

there's the answer to your early criticizing question.

It is definitely yellow as far as I'm concerned.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Yellow and the green and the blue.

I was so excited when they came in the mail and I saw the colors and I was like,

these are exactly the right colors.

You can hold them up to the logo and it looks just dead on as far as I'm concerned.

So I was very excited about that.

And then the fun thing about this one for anybody who knows anything about knitting patterns,

this started with a double-sided cast on.

So I had live stitches on both the blue side and the yellow side at the same time,

and then did them one at a time up to the top and tried to make sure that they were the same size and didn't accidentally do too many rows on one side or another.

Um,

so that,

so that's,

that's a degree of difficulty of like 9.8 out of 10.

Uh,

not,

not really.

The cast on was tricky.

I think I probably ripped it out and started it over at least once.

But,

um,

but then it's just kind of,

I mean,

I love it,

but it is kind of tedious because the yarn is thin.

Uh,

it was a lot of stitches.

It just takes well but I've been knitting for I don't even know how many years since at least in high school and um it's it's pretty easy to just kind of muscle memory through it and watch tv or something in the background while I'm while I'm working on it so it's a good good background background project and then I made the little tag and the tag was fun the tag is actually crocheted I can't now which has been a while.

I can't remember.

I think it was Tunisian crochet.

Uh,

and then I embroidered the little 25 and the HV on either side.

Incredible.

And so whoever wins this is going to be a very lucky person indeed.

I hope they enjoy it.

Uh,

I had a lot of fun making it and I hope that,

that whoever gets it has just as much fun wearing it and,

and,

uh,

that they love it a lot.

So now I understand you are here to be the official hat drawer,

pulling the name out of the hat.

Literally.

Rather appropriate.

So we need to get Jason up.

We need to get him involved.

All right.

You need to get over here.

All right.

We are.

Jason is shaking the hat.

Okay.

Shuffle,

shuffle,

shuffle.

Should we get a screenshot of you shuffling that hat?

Hang on.

Pull the name.

Are we going to?

Is it?

You should fold it.

Oh,

yeah.

Screenshot.

Save that one.

My low resolution.

Oops.

My low resolution.

Did we get it?

Screenshot.

Oh,

geez.

Hold on.

Command shift four.

Spacebar.

Click.

Okay.

That's got it.

Thank you.

All right.

All right.

Now.

All right.

Shuffle your hand around and grab it.

Della is reaching into the hat.

She is pulling.

We got a piece of paper.

There's a piece of paper.

The winner.

The paper is Marius K is the winner.

Congratulations.

Of this hat.

Marius K.

winner of the one of a kind hemispheric views,

handcrafted.

Congratulations,

Marius K.

Hat.

Marius K.

I hope you enjoy it.

Valerie,

thank you for your contribution to the show.

Yeah,

you're welcome.

Thanks for having me on.

And remember,

if you want to contribute,

if knitting a hat isn't enough for you and you want to continue to contribute,

oneprimeplus.com.

You can provide your support in that way too,

as can anybody else.

Yeah,

well,

I am a One Plus member already.

You shouldn't be.

You should not be.

There you go.

No,

it's fun.

Got to get the plug in.

Think of all the benefits that you get.

You get to live with the host.

How's that for a benefit?

It's exclusive.

It's a very exclusive benefit.

Well,

thank you so much.

You're welcome.

There we go.

You can come in anytime.

I hope Martin's missing more often so we get more of you.

thanks and if uh if everybody enjoyed this maybe there will be something again someday who knows when creativity strikes all righty all right well thanks so much you're welcome thank you see ya all right i'm back and thank you so much again valerie for drawing marius k as the winner of this hat we will reach out and get your postal information so we can get this send off to you.

That's exciting.

Exciting.

And look,

that's a great,

we've got a great backup host solution now.

So yeah,

easy.

Better really.

I mean,

if we're honest,

more creative,

that's for sure.

Oh man.

There we go.

So now that we've got our winner taken care of,

um,

we can go on to official business.

Cause we like to do official business when Martin's gone.

Yep.

Generally a little bit smoother,

I think.

Um,

so I titled this,

I guess it's a little out of order here.

I titled it when it rains,

it pours.

Um,

so we're not gonna,

we're not gonna dwell on this.

I don't think we're not going to get into a lot of specifics really,

but needless to say,

we,

we had it,

you know,

we've for years,

literally years,

five years now we've said,

Hey,

join the discord it's been fun well yeah it has been it's been great um we haven't changed it's not us it's you discord i guess is how i would say it um you're out so uh take a hike yep and we've replaced you with a uh lovely 2000 era a little thing we like to call a forum it's it's a phpbb isn't it pretty much yeah it's it's it's about that it's got a few css stylings on there to make it look a little bit not like 1994 but yeah and for all intents yeah that's basically what it is so i guess from

now on we'll say hey don't join us in the discord yeah join us in the forum and you know what's cool the forum we can't just we don't just say the form it's actually got a web addressable location that's true yeah it is it is it's got two addresses actually it's chat.hemisphericviews.com yep or hemispheric.chat i didn't know about the Hemispheric.chat.

This is news to me.

Yeah,

I just,

yeah,

just dropping that bombshell right here.

So I got to get that up and running before this episode goes live.

Nothing like a bit of self-imposed pressure.

I did secure the domain though.

We do have Hemispheric.chat.

And I just felt that felt like such an appropriate name.

I like that.

For this show.

Yeah.

That is good.

And it's nice to see a return of a web property.

I don't have to load another Discord app that always requires a software update.

downloading one of one or downloading one of eight.

So it's good to get rid of that.

Also,

yeah,

as you said,

don't dwell on it,

but the Discord,

let's just say their business model and ownership is circling the toilet.

Yeah,

the writing has been on the walls,

I think,

for a while,

and we sort of,

I at least would say that I ignored it out of just,

I don't want to go do a whole shake-up thing right now.

Yep.

But it hit a tipping point,

and so we have done that.

Yep.

Yep.

And then we thought,

cool,

we got rid of them.

All good.

Everything else is all good in the world.

Can I ask one favor though,

Jason?

There is on our forum at the moment,

you were testing,

early testing,

which is good.

You know,

we need to make sure all the features work.

There is a post on there that is requesting that people flag it.

Yes.

And now I have a persistent flag in my notifications area of my chat and it drives me bonkers.

You do.

Because I am an inbox zero kind of guy.

So here's something interesting.

You are an admin,

so you can actually take care of that yourself.

No,

I didn't think I'd be trusted with that.

Yeah,

you are an admin,

you are a mod,

you are a southern hemisphere,

and you are a host.

Okay.

So,

yeah,

with great power comes a forum.

So I guess when people actually hear this,

the forum may no longer exist because Canyon may have blown it up accidentally.

he made it.

That's absolutely true.

It says several times throughout the administration area of the forum,

like,

be careful who you give admin privileges to because things can go wrong.

So if you go to either of those web addresses and they don't work,

hit up canyon.blog slash save and let them know.

And what else is changing in the way we do things?

Oh,

no,

I mean,

surely only one major part of your infrastructure would need to be completely gutted and rebuilt in any given week.

Of course.

Except when your beloved OnePrimePlus.com backend apparently is acquired by Fox.

So that's not something I want to be a part of.

of all the bingo,

the bingo cards that you could,

you could draw your,

your podcast membership platform being acquired by Rupert Murdoch and Fox News.

Not quite what you were thinking,

right?

Didn't,

didn't ever expect that one.

Yeah.

Well,

it's even worse too,

because it's,

it's,

it would be one thing if it were like,

Hey,

it's been acquired by,

I don't,

I don't know why I'm not mentioning names.

This is soup.

No,

it's not actually.

So this is Supercast,

who we've been using for a number of years.

They've been,

you know,

fairly good,

I think.

Yeah,

no complaints.

The announcement says that they are thrilled to be acquired by,

quote,

Red Seat Ventures,

comma,

part of Fox Corporation's Tubi Media Group.

Tubi.

So,

like,

it's this whole,

like,

shell game of a,

like,

long story short,

We don't want to be a part of that.

We've only got room for one Tubies on this show.

That's it.

That's Rob Tubies.

In this world,

we are allotted one Tubies,

and that is it.

And we have that spot taken.

It's locked in.

That's it.

Sorry.

So we had to choose between Supercast and Rob.

Obviously,

we chose Rob.

So do we have a solution?

No.

No,

we don't.

I'm still hot and heavy in the Discord transition,

so I haven't even bothered looking into this yet.

So if anybody can help us out with a 1-prong-plus...

You know,

I don't know.

I have no idea.

I'm lost at this point.

I've had several recommendations of something called Castopod.

I've not heard of that.

I might look into that.

I mean,

I will look into it.

There's no might about it.

I will look into that.

But,

yeah,

so that's,

I guess,

bye-bye Supercast.

so jason did you have entire rebuild our entire platform infrastructure on your to-do list for 2026 i really didn't and i'm really hoping that the main feed is not going to be included in this for some reason that has yet to be announced so hopefully that one stays we did get through the fireside fm ownership transfer so that's we did yeah good so far and i got a i got a t-shirt from fireside and some stickers oh well i mean like they've look at this i've got right in front of me in fact wow fireside

og sticker and a one take wonder sticker and that's cool that came with a fireside t-shirt sorry guys i think you missed out because um my my details were on some address that i filled out yeah i didn't i uh i didn't receive any of those uh lovely wares that's okay that's all right i'm not i'm not bitter i don't think it was your size you know i think i'll let ellie I'll take the next one and they get acquired again or something.

Um,

so yeah,

that's,

I think that's it for changes hopefully for now.

That's a lot.

Um,

well I guess maybe not cause there's also,

I have a topic here,

uh,

tech full circle,

2000 to 2024 and back again.

Right.

What does that mean?

Well,

um,

there will be a blog post to follow,

but I've found as of recent that,

um,

everything that we thought,

the future of the internet and software and devices was going to be back in 2000.

Like if we said,

Hey,

in 2000 stuff is so cool right now.

Internet's just kind of getting into it like a groove.

We got some,

some sweet,

you know,

four 86 computers or whatever,

like some Pentiums,

you got some Pentiums going like this is,

this is the best.

This was like our,

this was our golden era.

Yeah.

Surely in 25 years,

everything's going to be exponentially better and cooler in every single way.

Yep.

Spoiler.

I don't think it is.

So I'm finding basically everything's reverting back to like 2000 era.

So digital music locally,

no DRM,

digital video,

no DRM,

um,

ripping CDs again,

ripping DVDs,

Blu-rays.

Uh,

yeah,

we're kind of back to that again.

And I don't want to be that like nostalgia,

oh,

it was better back in my day kind of guy.

But man,

everything just,

it's all just for the sake of monetization and kind of F all else.

That is exactly,

I was going to say something,

and I think you've almost stolen my thunder there,

because that is what it is.

It's not that the technology is worse,

because it isn't.

Technology is better.

But what's worse is the business models that get wrapped around the technology.

Everybody wants to make just heaps and heaps of ridiculous sized money.

Like tech people used to be a little industry and you'd build a product and hope that you would sell it and people would buy it.

And that was kind of it.

Now everybody is like going for the unicorn product and nothing else matters and screw all else.

And I want to suck in as much data and information.

10x it.

Yeah.

X.

The technology is awesome.

If we applied the business principles from 20 years ago onto the current tech,

that'd be great.

I'd love it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm,

I'm spoiling a little bit,

but the thing that I was working on when I was writing was,

you know,

the two points that I think are part of this conversation are,

you know,

a company that makes products for real people,

that it then turns into support their employees and families.

Like that should be enough.

Yep.

But it never is.

And it's like this whole idea of like having enough money to sustain you for like 5,000 lifetimes in some way like that makes you immortal.

It's just,

it's just gross.

Like,

yeah.

So not to get,

you know,

I think we've talked,

we rant enough about this,

but yeah.

We're a show that talked for like half an episode about RSS.

So it's okay.

It's okay to be old man shouting at cloud.

Well,

keep your stuff local,

get rid of DRM,

self-host if you can,

and you don't have to buy every single thing that they make,

turns out.

Kind of buy a good one and use it for quite a while.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I noticed,

can I just channel Martin for a minute,

please?

Oh,

please.

Absolutely.

We love a good Martin channel.

Ooh,

I don't know if I can do that.

What channel is he,

do you think?

If we had to go back to when you only had channel two,

three,

four,

what would he be?

You think he'd be like a two or like a five?

You mean on TV?

Yeah.

Well,

he'd be whatever broadcast in America,

probably PBS.

Okay.

It's like a Channel 9.

Okay.

Probably a Channel 9,

I think.

So in Australia,

he would have been either an ABC,

which would be a Channel 2.

Okay.

Or more likely,

the real man would actually be SBS,

which was Channel 28.

Oh,

wow.

Way up in the band.

And it was UHF.

Oh.

So,

oh,

my God.

All the commercial channels were VHF.

But to try.

He would be a UHF.

To try and tune in 28 UHF.

That was a bugger.

You had to get your tuning so precise on the TV to get that without.

That's him.

Static.

Yep.

But that is Martin.

The annoying precise channel.

And then you tuned in and all you got was foreign language.

You got Greek news.

There you go.

so that's just like this show yeah so this is okay so i'm channel 28 martin now okay so in relation to your tech full circle apparently me as martin i am now keeping according to the show notes cds in my car are you i want to know just in like a binder in the back seat or you're actually playing them i've got a binder in the back seat and i currently have just a just a single disc front loader in the dash and i fit through my binder but what i'm thinking of doing is upgrading to a stacker that i'm

going to put in my boot oh like a six disc it's getting on the boot right which is yeah yeah it's great you can't get to it until you realize that yeah you want to listen to the cd that's in the folder that's not in the stacker you've got to pull over in the seventh position yeah yeah you gotta pull it you gotta pull over open the boot eject the cassette find the cd you want to take out make that decision yeah put the new one in load it back in close the boot get back in your car get driving hope

that you put it in the little magazine thing in the right orientation too because all of them are in there you don't remember you pulled it out you're in a frantic wait does it yep which is it label side down up i don't remember you get a load error oh you don't want the load air because the whole thing might not work disaster but yeah that's a that's a bit you hit a speed bump and get some get some skip you don't want to skip i know you've only got an eight second buffer maybe at the second buffer

oh the buffer yeah i remember i had one that was like a 30 second buffer at some point that was like a lifetime wow now martin wouldn't go to that because he's uhf guy he can't afford that no the the binder was the play though because you'd always come up to a stoplight and you'd know you'd have like 10 to 30 seconds to rifle through your binder to find the next one get it swapped out and in before you had to go again because that's safety yep there we go that's the end of martin martin corner i

hope i hope i did that justice i'm so glad he's got cds again he should rip those to fly do you think you think he's heard about flack yet maybe i could talk to him about that for a while i think he probably has heard about it but don't think it's his style i don't know if he's like heard about it though you know like has he heard about it we'll see i'll i'll be the judge of that he was talking about limewire the other day oh wow that's a blast from the past so he's burning his cds in his car okay

nice you can fit 100 tracks on the cd then oh man i bet he would have like really pristine sharpie writing all of the cdrs you imagine and he would have it in one of little plastic jewel cases yeah and they they had like the little cardboard information and that would be actually filled out with every track yep in track order on it was you and i what did we do we didn't we didn't ever no right and i think we scrawled on the front of the cdr with a sharpie kind of close to what it was probably only

the band name not even the the name of the album and then you're just like yeah that's the one i like and it just went for it yep martin's a different beast yep yeah well thanks for that martin we appreciate it we uh we'll get some follow-up on that uh next time probably do you want to talk about international dark sky places i do because i also have a little um tangential point on this so i think it'll work nicely phenomenal so we uh we went what you'd call off grid uh this past week did a little

camping out woods no signal no nothing and stumbled upon something that was called an international dark sky park it's like what what is this this is this is intriguing well apparently there are around 230 of these around the world that are designated locations that are effectively like just no light pollution at all there's nothing when it's dark it is dark you cannot see anything but boy when you look up and you see the night sky in one of these places i am not exaggerating it is life changing

when you see the sky as it would be in a civilization where it is not 2026 holy freaking crap it was absolutely incredible we went out every night just staring up look at that look at that look at that so cool so then i looked up i was like well if there's 230 around the world where the hell are the rest of these surely australia has some that's a pretty big place with not a lot of people scattered across the whole thing.

There's seven.

I found there's seven of them.

That's okay.

That's okay.

But apparently they're all over on Martin's side and none of them are on the WA side from what I can tell.

Okay.

So I was curious,

and obviously Martin's not here.

He's listening to CDs in his car.

But if he were to come in from his car and join the show,

I was curious if he had ever seen or been to any of them.

And I had the same question for you,

obviously,

but they don't seem to be any.

Well,

maybe I haven't been to an official one,

but I've certainly been to places where it's very dark.

That could be,

yeah.

It's possible because there's like the ones that are in the book,

you know,

have been sanctioned or whatever,

but I'm sure there's plenty of dark places across.

I guess I've been across the Nullarbor of Australia a long,

long time ago,

but have done that.

I'm sure one of them has got to be around there,

probably ones around Alice Springs or something around somewhere around there.

So I don't know if I've been to one,

but I have certainly experienced the dark sky and looked up and seen the Milky Way and just the bucket loads of stars that are up there.

The problem when I,

I want to ask you this,

do you get a feeling of existential dread when you look at those skies?

Oh my gosh.

Yes.

So this is like a prequel to every blog post I'm writing right now.

Cause I wrote like three or four blog posts this past week offline.

Cause just so many thoughts in my head.

Yep.

And one of them was exactly that.

It,

it,

it's called peace,

quiet,

and no signal.

And I was not prepared for the level of dark and the level of quiet.

I love quiet.

I am the person that's like,

Hey,

get off my lawn.

i want it to be quiet i'm that person that's just that's who i am that's fine i've i've accepted that but the level of quiet in these places it it brings about a weird state of like your brain doesn't know what to do because in the normal world even in your house if it's quote-unquote quiet in your house there's like i don't know a handful dozen different noises happening for various things,

a buzz of a this or a click of a that,

whatever.

Maybe you got an old hard drive clicking away in the corner.

Maybe a zip disc click of death could be happening.

We don't know.

No.

But so that's fine at your house.

But when you go to a place like this,

there is a true absence of noise.

It's the closest thing I could think of to being in one of those chambers where they like test sound where it's like with all those pointy things that look so cool.

And I feel like at least for me my brain tries to fill that void out of like fear or something like this is not safe for it to be this quiet there has to be noise and man your brain just goes in all kinds of crazy directions which makes me further never want to do one of those what are those things where you float in them where you're like neutral buoyancy yeah i've done those yeah oh i don't think i don't think my brain is is a good candidate for that but yes looking up at that many stars and seeing

that much stuff yeah it really just sends your brain for a loop of things that you just weren't ready for and are simultaneously the most natural and unscary thing ever and i think probably the only i don't know if this is true but in my head i thought this is like the only thing that i'm looking at that if i were to describe it would be exactly the same as every single person that's ever lived on earth throughout time because it's the same yeah and that's what else is like that yeah like earth changes

but the sky more or less is exactly the same for everybody that's ever been able to look up yeah so there's there's your deep thought for for episode 157 the people that came before us particularly those before electricity who experienced dark dark nights every night i i don't know how they did it like that is a level of mind fuck that would be too much for me like it no what no wonder people died early forget the forget the you know know the disease and whatever and getting eaten by wolves but just

the the absolute twisted mind you'd get when suddenly it's dark and you're like that would be scary that would mess with you you would go stir crazy and no wonder they died early man yeah yeah it's like it's like being on a like a deserted island effectively yeah but in your own head which i don't i don't recommend anybody go there yeah so wow that's so so to bring me to my point and you know now we have electricity yesterday i came across an article um pointed to me by signoir on micro dot blog

oh yeah but it was a it was a hodinky is it hodinky the watch website the watch one yeah yeah yeah and it was all about the one of the apple watch watch faces and one that i've never used and it's the one that shows you the amount of sunlight and nighttime in each day and it's it's really great it has sort of like two it's a it's a circle of 24 hours represented by the circle of the watch face and each day it calibrates to show you where the sun is and how much sunlight is left in the day yeah and

i learned It's all about civil twilight and then nautical twilight,

which I didn't even know was a thing,

and then full dark and then civil morning and civil whatever morning opposite twilight is.

I can't remember now.

Yeah,

fascinating article.

And now I've become enamored with this watch face,

so I know when pure darkness is going to hit me.

So I'm looking at this.

I've got a few more hours of sunlight left in my day.

So,

yeah,

it's pretty cool.

Nautical twilight,

nautical dusk,

and then astronomical twilight,

and then night.

Oh,

my gosh.

Look at the education that we provide here.

I know.

I know.

So,

look,

I've got about five hours 50 left until sunlight.

You've got enough time.

Then you can turn the lights on.

Yeah.

but if you didn't freak out if i looked at my apple watch and i was living 500 years ago and i saw that my apple watch said i've got six hours a day like that i'll be shitting myself i've got so much to do yeah and then i've got fear and not because you were looking at an apple watch 500 years ago man that would be that would be something well that would be flat my apple watch would only work for one day how are you charging that i don't know how there's not a lot usb rocks out there i don't know

why you're taking care of that but yeah that would be really that that's exactly what it was like the whole week is it was the it was starting to get dark it's like well i guess we're i guess that's it time time to go to bed i guess i don't know it's 7 30.

i think you enjoy it would you do it again absolutely yeah it's it was it was really really good it it was just i was not mentally prepared for it are you able to name the play highly recommend i don't want to dox you but are you able to name where you went or yeah it was i'll put a i'll put a link in the in the notes too it was called it was called uh it's here in oregon it was i have written down prineville state park but i think it's like a state park reservoir thing I don't remember exactly what

it's called,

but I'll post a link to where it was.

Yeah.

Highly recommend.

Apparently,

Oregon is like prime for dark sky stuff.

So that's pretty cool.

We'll go find some other ones and try those out.

Is it four-wheel drive only or can you get a normal car in there?

No,

no.

It was very accessible.

It was,

we didn't even have,

it was a,

we have a new metric for driving now that is the number of charges that you have to do while you're driving.

and this was a zero charge drive wow wow just around the corner so and there was a free rivian charger at the place so it was prime yeah it's crazy wow that's pretty cool and that's that dark sky international dark sky places if you have one near you uh check the link it has a little thing that shows you a map wow go do it just don't even question it just go do it and okay i will what are we at we're at 30 oh yeah we got we could we could we could round these out probably huh we are smashing this

we're gonna martin is not gonna need to edit at all just ship it no he's he's had a lot of sleep though so he'll be prepared um tuna do you remember that app called tuna i told you about this did you did you bring this up initially i don't remember where this came i shared well i saw it somewhere i can't take credit for might have been david h might have found it maybe could be but uh i told you about it i believe that you were the one who installed it because yep how's it working it's installed

it has been set to command space which is like that's a pretty big deal primary because usually you kind of have it set up as like an alternate like an option space or a control space just to you don't want to commit too early yep It's full on command spaced at this point.

And I was digging through settings today.

I didn't think it was very far along until I started looking into the settings because I clearly didn't understand how they had the settings laid out.

There is so much crap in there you can do.

It feels,

it really does feel like Quicksilver.

I used to love Quicksilver.

Look and feel.

I think they made it look like that on purpose.

It's like a nostalgia thing probably.

I remember that spinning cube in Quicksilver.

I love that.

That was one of the things that made me buy Mac.

What's that?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Quicksilver was,

that was a,

that was a sell for the Mac for sure.

That,

and then I think when Quick Look happened.

Yes.

Yep.

Yep.

That was like,

when you could just hit a space bar and like look at a file.

Come on.

Yeah.

How,

and then Windows I think still doesn't do that.

No,

it drives me crazy.

I don't know how.

Like what?

It seems like the most basic.

Anyway,

sorry,

Tuna.

Tuna is a,

it's a launcher.

It's a thingy that does stuff.

It's like your,

you know,

spotlights,

your Alfred,

Raycast,

Launch Bar,

name five more.

Probably this is the newest,

newest one.

And it's been great.

I think it's really good.

I'm hesitant to say it's missing some things because I'm not quite sure if they're done differently,

perhaps.

So my old launcher,

I could bring it up and do quick math or conversions and stuff.

And I'm not sure if that's just not there yet or if I'm not really understanding how it's supposed to do it.

But as a launcher,

as a finding things,

it's very quick.

It's snappy.

It looks very nice.

Yeah,

it's free as of right now.

that's a beta it says it's going to be a one-time kind of just purchase so it'll be you know x dollars when it comes out it'll be behind i think they called it like a soft paywall which i'm not really familiar with what that means like it must be freemium maybe you can kind of do some of the things part of the way i don't know but it's been good so far so i would say if you don't use a launcher or you're not happy with the one you have or you just love trying things out like many of us do um try

out tuna one thing one thing i'm a little worried about not worried but just you know tuna if you want to have a think about this i know i'm on their website at the moment they've got a button at the bottom and it says join discord uh tuna you may want to think about that and then underneath that this is more slightly more of a concern actually i already know what you're gonna say and it i'm that's the one thing that's giving me pause right now but go ahead and say it it says built by micker and

the micker button is a link to not twitter but actually x.com i know i know but i did find their website i did write an email to them and i did see they have mastodon as well okay so i don't know we'll see we'll see how that goes i i that did give me pause as well just that know your audience right like who's who's going to be installing a quick silver type launcher it's probably not going to be people that typically like x nope nope nope nope and i'm glad you brought that up because i forgot about

that entirely and yes that is a cause for concern there we go speaking of apps and uh apps in beta have have you been trying the currents app the rss reading app i have not gotten to that yet okay i assume you have i have i have I've been using it and I've sent a little bit of feedback via test flight.

Oh,

good.

Yeah.

Not much.

I can't say that I've entirely debugged the entire application.

Sure.

I think I found a typo.

More like user interaction types.

Yeah,

typos,

swipe things.

Every little bit helps.

I'm liking it.

It's a bit of a challenge for me just because I'm so stuck in my ways.

Yeah.

because I've been using RSS for such a long time in such a,

like a way that is familiar to me,

which is basically inbox zero it.

Yeah.

And I feel like I worry that I miss stuff.

Yeah.

I saw you were talking to,

um,

um,

um,

blanking on name.

God,

uh,

on Macedon,

you're having a conversation with,

with the Twitter,

the Twitterific tapestry guy.

Yeah.

Sean.

Sean.

Yeah.

Yep.

Yep.

Same thing with tapestry.

because I'm still trialing Tapestry as well,

which it's a fun app to use.

But yeah,

those struggles of what have I missed?

But the thing about the current is kind of nice is that you can set up different types of article.

You can nominate if somebody is a person.

And then also you can nominate what sort of article does this feed contain?

So is it news or is it an essay or is it an article?

And each of those types of feed will disappear after a period of time.

So news,

if you don't see it,

it'll just wash away after 18 hours or something.

Oh,

but if Andrew just wrote a blog post from six weeks ago and I didn't see it,

it'll hang around.

You can set that as evergreen.

Oh,

that is brilliant.

So it's kind of prioritizing the type of feed.

So I love that concept.

the one thing I'm having a problem with at the moment is it's a little bit,

it seems like you've got to set them one by one and it's a bit fiddly to actually get to the point where you set that up.

Got it.

And I'm still not sure.

That kind of solves my problem though,

that I was going through where I was like,

I have a thousand quote unquote news articles and then Andrew writes a blog post and then I ended up missing it because I'm like overwhelmed and I mark all as read.

Yep.

Yep.

And there's still a few little quirks.

sometimes it seems like the sync isn't performing effectively,

but I can appreciate that stuff's hard.

That's the hard edge case stuff.

So it's early.

Um,

so I'm still having,

I'm still hopeful for it as it develops the double turn something.

Um,

good,

but can you import,

uh,

uh,

uh,

OPML by chance?

Yep.

So I did that.

Okay,

good.

Yep.

And it actually,

not only does the import OPM,

it's actually,

it's actually syncing with my fresh RSS server.

Oh,

So it's more like a,

like an app front end than its own thing?

Or does it do both?

I think it does both.

Yeah.

Okay.

So like a reader,

I guess,

where you could hook into a service or it'll,

oh,

wow.

They're doing their own sync service too?

I think they're using iCloud.

Oh,

okay.

Gotcha.

So this is where,

yeah,

I haven't fully tested all the permutations of it.

So I might be speaking out of turn.

Okay.

But it's.

That sounds cool.

You got me hooked already just talking about the idea of like,

I don't know,

personas,

I guess you could call it for feeds.

Yeah,

that's really,

I think that's,

for me,

that's the unique selling proposition.

Very cool.

So I hope that,

yeah,

I think it just needs a little bit more,

you know,

optimization to make that work really effectively.

But it's a good concept.

So I'm going to continue to follow it.

Yeah.

Well,

good software is hard.

It's fun.

It's fun to be part of testing.

I feel like,

you know,

a special person.

Yeah,

it is fun to get that.

Well,

yeah,

absolutely.

I felt the same way,

which this isn't on the list,

but you just mentioned that,

so it brought it to my mind.

Castro,

the podcast app.

I just got an email from them about the Android app.

Their first Android version is ready to test.

And I was like,

oh,

yes,

this is fantastic.

So now I've got that going.

That's my player of choice at the moment.

Oh,

good.

Yeah,

that was always mine on iOS,

and I've just been kind of reluctantly using Pocket Casts because that's kind of the only option I had.

And then Castro had,

they had like kind of mentioned in passing a while back about working on an Android app.

And I was like,

I will take it in whatever horrendous form it's in.

I don't even care.

Just give it to me,

please.

As long as it could play an audio file,

I don't even care.

Does Android have like a test flight system?

Yeah,

same thing.

It all just goes through the normal store.

It's just,

I think it's called early access or something like that.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's actually a hell of a lot,

surprising no one,

a hell of a lot easier to deal with than test flight.

But yeah,

that's not a,

that's not news to anybody.

Yeah.

All right.

There you go.

There's test flight corner slash early access corner.

And that is,

I think that's it.

Yeah.

There we go.

and congratulations again to marius yes congratulations again we'll reach out via uh email yep actually let me uh double check that i have that actually you know what i'm not even gonna double check i'm gonna say hey uh no i'll double check let me go back on my uh yep i've got an email right here brilliant well it is andrew at andrewcanyon.com it says So I will reach out post haste.

Lovely.

And we'll get that shipped out.

That sounds good.

And Martin.

We wish you well.

Hope you come back soon.

But in the meantime,

look,

you've got,

what's a CD hold?

47 minutes of music.

Something like that.

Yeah.

So times six.

It's actually one episode.

Funny,

it's a weird coincidence that they actually made CDs the length that would hold one episode of this show when they first made them.

That's it.

So Martin could listen to six episodes of Hemisphere Reviews before having to return to home base to change out the stacker.

That's it.

You get a whole six episodes.

Oh,

God.

I've got to get him one of those 300 CD changers.

We need Rob to update his play count measure,

not only does it tell you how many days and stuff it would take to listen to,

but how many disk stacks?

How many CDRs do you need?

How many CDRs?

How many CDRWs?

How many whatever?

Yeah,

we need to know all of the math there.

I think that's it.

157.

Thanks,

Andrew.

Thank you,

Jason Burke.

Thank you,

Valerie Burke.

Martin,

we'll see you when you get back.

yeah and yes thanks to valerie for not only being on to talk about the hat but also making the damn thing which is again freaking awesome and i hope that uh i hope when marius gets it he can uh maybe take some some photos with or without people but you know that's fine do what you want to do but We'd love to see it once it arrives.

And she called it yellow.

Hey.

And three,

two,

one.

Stop.