Jonathan Wier (00:01) Hey, welcome to the show everybody. It's me, Jonathan, and coming from the confines of a dark, mysterious castle, it's Aayla. Ayla Brown (00:11) Sorry, I thought you were gonna give me a moment to say it's me, Ayla. Jonathan Wier (00:15) What the fuck? What the is in there? Ayla Brown (00:18) Yeah, it does feel like we are very contrasted right now. I'm in the, I mean, I'm, I'm in my dark cave, like you said, and you actually are not, which is really strange for us. I feel like it should be the opposite. Should I turn on a light? I can. No. Jonathan Wier (00:34) No, think people need one of us to be light and the other one to be dark. I think it's a Star Wars type of thing going on right now. You're the Sith, I'm a Jedi. Other references that there's no way in hell you get. I don't know, I just came in and the overhead was on and I sat down and went, I look good. I'm gonna leave the overhead on. Yeah, I good for once. So I'm gonna leave the overhead on. We're gonna do a show, obviously. We're gonna do group therapy. We're gonna do. Ayla Brown (00:52) Yeah, I you look nice. You look nice. Jonathan Wier (01:01) Uh, the mud, the mud today, weirdly about Patrick Mahomes, but also about his children's names, which apparently Ayla has a problem with. Uh, we're going to do study hall one in five Gen Z years don't know how to do this screwing a light bulb. it fair? Yeah. Um, and we're also going to play a little game called over or under rated where I'm just going to throw something out and we're going to argue whether that thing is overrated. or underrated, that's gonna be fun. Ayla Brown (01:33) I love that. And I have a group therapy today and it is a personal group therapy as in it's not really about me, but it could involve me. So I would love to hear where the audience stands on this and where you Jonathan stand on this bit of a predicament that I'm in on whether or not I should tell someone that I kind of know that their husband cheated on her. Jonathan Wier (01:35) Yes. Yeah. Mmm. Ayla Brown (02:00) actually at my house years ago. So that's today's group therapy and I'm gonna need the audience's help. Jonathan Wier (02:07) All right, good evening, Melinda, by the way, in the chat, and Jessica as well. Just rattle some off here. Hi guys, been looking forward to today all week long, and I promise those silly comments or questions this week. No, no, we need silly comments and questions. You kidding me? That was the most fun I've had in a while doing that show. Yeah. Ayla Brown (02:25) me too. Jessica is referring to the beer goggles comment. I think that I didn't know what beer goggles were. If you listened to last week's episode and she actually sent me a message and apologize for, for bringing it up. And I was like, what are you, do not apologize. I genuinely am just stupid. And I thought it was hilarious that I tried to explain what beer goggles were. So all good Jess, don't worry. Jonathan Wier (02:45) Thank you. stupid you're ignorant that's Before we get to anything else, hey Aila, how you doing? Ayla Brown (02:52) Yeah, that too. I am sick again. That's fun. I don't know what is going on, like yesterday I, throughout the day just felt super crappy and around 5 PM I took my temperature and it was about 101.9 and then 6 PM I took it again and it was. Ironically 102.5? Jonathan Wier (03:20) No. Ayla Brown (03:21) And it was at that point that I just decided to take my ass to bed because I was so depressed about it. It not only hurt my head, my head was hurting, my body was aching, but then when I took the ear thermometer and I pulled it out and I saw 102.5, I thought, you know what, just kill me now. Just I'm going to bed. So I went to bed at like 6.30, woke up. My fever has gotten a little bit better, but I just, don't know what is going on in this house. I feel like I need to start checking for like black mold or something. Cause this whole season, my family has just been so sick. I don't know why. Jonathan Wier (04:02) Yeah, I'm glad we don't work together anymore. Ayla Brown (04:04) I'm surprised your kids aren't sick though. mean, like, aren't kids who go to school super sick? Jonathan Wier (04:07) You're a No, my kids are of my wife and me who have super immunity. We are never sick. We are never sick. I don't know why, but I can count on one hand. I know I'm not trying to brag. I'm just like, the whole time we worked together, five years, was I ever sick? Never sick. I don't know. I am unhealthy. You eat like asparagus and kale and air. That's pretty much all you eat. Ayla Brown (04:25) Never sick. You're never sick. Ever. Jonathan Wier (04:35) and you're sick all the time, I today have eaten not one but two different kinds of pizza. Do you understand what that means? It means I pizza from one place and then came home and ate pizza from another place. Ayla Brown (04:43) I do. No! Okay, I actually have a question about your upbringing because apparently upon my research, as I've gotten a much more earthy, crunchy in my days, when you were younger and you had a sinus infection or an earache or something, did you get put on prescription medication immediately to kind of resolve those things? Jonathan Wier (05:10) I never had any of those things. No. Ayla Brown (05:12) That's why you're never sick. That's huge. And even if you were, maybe your parents were just like, he'll get over it. Because I only ask because the research says now that the prescription drugs are actually killing our immune systems over time. kids who had a lot of earaches and had to be put on prescription medications, they get sick. Jonathan Wier (05:19) And. against it. Ayla Brown (05:36) a lot more as adults. And so I feel like I'm always sick. Jonathan Wier (05:40) Yeah, so you were on a bunch of prescriptions when you were a kid. Ayla Brown (05:42) A ton of them. I was a baby when it came to like, especially in my high school days or middle school days when I would get like a cough or a chest cold, I'd be like, I need a Z pack. mean, I'm not going to live if I don't have a Z pack. And like, I would be begging for prescription drugs. Jonathan Wier (06:00) and somebody said my voice sounded faint. I'm trying to... Do I sound bad? Do I sound awful? Ayla Brown (06:07) I don't think so. Jonathan Wier (06:08) Is anybody else noticing that? Rebecca said, Jonathan, your voice sounds very faint. Yeah, if anybody else, but Ayla's hearing me, so I should be fine. Ayla Brown (06:13) yeah, if you don't mind. I mean, I am yelling right now. It could be the blockage of the ears. I could be yelling. It could be me. Okay, so let me just tone it down a little bit. You are cutting out once in a while. Weird. Jonathan Wier (06:28) Thanks. you're welcome, Jess. You are cutting out once in a while. I think it's because we're talking. The way this works is if we're talking over each other, cuts me off. So I don't know what we can do about that, but that's just the way it works. Okay. So, yeah, I was never sick when I was a kid, ever. The only thing that I had that was like weird and kind of crazy was when I was in the first grade, I got chicken pot. Ayla Brown (06:51) Mmm. Jonathan Wier (06:52) And then in the third grade, I got chickenpox. Do you know how many times you're supposed to get chickenpox? Ayla Brown (06:58) fascinating. you're supposed to get it once. Jonathan Wier (07:03) Once. I got it twice. I was like written up in medical journals. But it was like, I got it a little bit the first time. And then the second time I got it so bad. I literally had chicken pox on my eyelids and my hair. I was miserable. Yeah, scratching all over. Like literally my mom would go, why are we going? Why are the cheese graters missing? I was like, I'll tell you why. Because daddy needs a scratch. Yes, I was just taking them to my hair. Ayla Brown (07:16) Aww, honey. you're doing this. Jonathan Wier (07:33) and yeah, my back. It's horrible. Ayla Brown (07:34) my god. Everyone is saying that you're very faint right now, by the way. That your voice is still very faint. Do you want to just turn up your gain? Jonathan Wier (07:44) I can't hear Jonathan. Aila's voice. What the hell? Ayla Brown (07:47) Okay, well you can hear Jonathan, you just are choosing not to listen. Jonathan Wier (07:52) You can mute while recording, you can't switch mics. there is a problem. Ayla Brown (07:59) What? No. Jonathan Wier (08:01) don't know how that. Hold on, hold on. I'll be able to fix it. Ayla, entertain the people for a minute. Ayla Brown (08:05) Well, when you tell me to entertain, I'm not very good at just on the spot. However, I could try. I do want to thank all the people who have signed up for our Patreon page, by the way. I'll give this opportunity to just plug our Patreon. It's patreon.com slash Jonathan and Ayla. And if you've never heard of Patreon, it really is just almost like a crowdfunded way, a subscription base to help support our show. Jonathan Wier (08:10) Yeah. Ayla Brown (08:33) So Rebecca says sing. What would you like me to sing? stop it. my gosh, you want me to sing? You already know I have a fever right now. Jonathan Wier (08:37) don't! I'm sorry. All right, is that better? Is that better, everybody? I think that's better. Should be better now. Should be better. We'll wait. We'll wait for the audience to respond. Ayla Brown (08:50) We'll wait for the thumbs up because I hear you completely perfectly, but. Jonathan Wier (08:54) I was going through for some reason it was going through the MacBook microphone and now it's going through that one. Ask me how I'm doing, A-Lon. Ayla Brown (08:58) that's probably why. Okay. I would love to ask you how you're doing. Okay. Anyways, I would love to ask you how you're doing. How are you doing, Jonathan? Jonathan Wier (09:11) I'm doing amazingly well, like so well that I'm worried about how things are actually going, like waiting for other shoes to drop, you know what mean? first of all, I was a little worried because the Chiefs are playing on Saturday and the game starts at 3.30 our time. I worked till five on Saturdays and, in good conscience, I couldn't like... Ayla Brown (09:22) Mm-hmm. no. Jonathan Wier (09:35) couldn't like not going to work as the Chiefs, right? And then I was offered tickets to the game by I don't know if he listens to this podcast. He's definitely been a fan of mine for a while, a guy named Webb. And he offered me tickets, not just for me, but for the kids and Katie. This is a very nice hookup. It's a very good hookup. And so I told Ayla Brown (09:51) No way! He's got that kind of a hookup? Okay. Jonathan Wier (10:00) my boss, actually both of my bosses, my big boss and my medium boss, I don't know, great guys, at work today, and I was like, hey, and they were both like, who do you know? And I was like, dude, don't. Ayla Brown (10:07) Okay. That's how I feel. Who's Webb? Jonathan Wier (10:16) Yeah, Webb is a great guy. Anyway, just a tiny bit better, but it's okay. Whatever. I was just going by the comments. Anyway. Ayla Brown (10:22) Whatever. Jonathan Wier (10:26) I, and so I was like, can I, is it okay if I go in there? Like, well yeah, but like, who are you again? I'm like, you guys, it's sad that you don't know who I am, okay? My life is cool and I do cool shit. Like, what do you want me to tell you? Like, my life is awesome. It's great. The other thing is, um... Ayla Brown (10:36) This is beautiful. Your life is fantastic. Wait, so they're letting you go? Like take completely off of work or like ending early? Jonathan Wier (10:48) yeah! I don't know. They were like, no, go. That's, yeah. Once in a lifetime opportunity, go. No, it's a great place to work. They're amazing. Ayla Brown (10:57) That's awesome. I'm so happy for you. That feels like such a relief. I'm not saying like our old job wasn't like that, but it was a lot more formal. Like, well, you need to fill out the sheet on the website to like request it and then we'll approve. And then it was just like, my God, can't I just like, whatever. So that's good. Congrats. Jonathan Wier (11:16) the other thing is, and this is just me bragging cause I want to brag on it. Henry got pretty much straight A's on his report card. got one, one B like just enough to remind us that he's not perfect. know, Here's the other thing I was like, and if you don't understand why this is huge, by the way, we moved here in the middle of the semester and I was really worried that. Ayla Brown (11:28) Right. Congratulations. That's huge. Jonathan Wier (11:40) it was going to be really, really stressful on him. He really, really hard and his grades would go into the toilet. And not only did they not, he got better grades here than he did in Lexington. anyway, the other thing is I asked him like, Hey, since you did so well, how about mom and I buy you something? How about whatever you want you to monitor for your desktop or whatever. And he was like, no, Ayla Brown (11:46) Mm. Jonathan Wier (12:03) I was like, well, let me just get you something. He's like, no, I don't need anything. I'm good. And I'm like, what is this? Ayla Brown (12:09) our little babies growing up. And I say our, I feel like I've known them for so long, but your baby is growing up. Jonathan Wier (12:11) You are a bitch. Maybe he's growing up. You realize that that's torture for me, right? Like I want to reward him and he's like, no, don't. Getting a good reward, stop it. Yeah. Yeah. Ayla Brown (12:24) That must be so strange. Like if you asked him this maybe a year ago, what do think he would have wanted? Cause clearly he's matured within the past year. Jonathan Wier (12:36) I don't know a year ago. He probably would have said something for his computer next year. He'll probably say a woman Like Dad, how about a woman? Are there any brothels around here? Go on? You got the hookup for chiefs tickets. What else you got the hookup for old man? Ayla Brown (12:47) Stop it. I mean, my son Bear, every time he goes poop, he expects a poop of what I call a poopy cookie now. And it's not a cookie made of poopy, but it is every time he goes potty poopy, he gets a reward. And so I've run out of cookies. I've been to six different grocery stores, cannot find them anywhere. And there are these specific tractor wheel cookies from like Earth's farm or I don't know the brand, but. Jonathan Wier (13:16) Yeah. Ayla Brown (13:21) I can't find him anywhere. So now we've run out of our last cookie today and the next time he goes poop, he's going to be wondering where the heck is my reward. And I'm going to have to break it to him. Like, I don't know what to do. I, mama has gone all sorts of places and can't find it. So we're going to have to move the reward. So maybe he'll have the maturity to say, mama, it's okay. I don't need a reward today. That would be nice. Jonathan Wier (13:34) Yeah. That would be nice. Based on what you typically feed your children, I'm assuming you just give them a circle of dirt and it would be the same. It would be just as good. Ayla Brown (13:48) That would be nice. At that age, yeah, these days. mean, yeah. Jonathan Wier (13:58) Yeah, right. Because I'm sure the tractor cookies don't have any sugar in them. Yeah, like how is that even a cookie? What are you doing? Ayla Brown (14:05) I could literally, like you said, just go outside, pack some dirt, bake it in the oven and give it to him. And he'd be like, my gosh, that tastes just like my tractor cookies. Jonathan Wier (14:11) Like, boy. Yeah, depending on where the dirt was from, it might taste even better. You never know. Susan said, in education, just reward him in praise. Yeah, it's probably the smartest thing to do. But he doesn't respond to praise. I don't know how this. What? Ayla Brown (14:19) yeah. Yeah, that's probably what he wants. He is now. I feel like he is now. mean, no. Jonathan Wier (14:35) No, he's just like, yeah, I know, I'm smart. Yeah, I work for smart. Ayla Brown (14:38) Maybe he is smart. Maybe it's almost like when I went to private school for five years and then I went to college. I'm not saying college was a breeze, but it totally prepared me for going to Boston College. As in what I'm saying is going to Lexington totally prepared him for a non-New England school, if that makes sense, because they all say New England schools are the best in the country. Jonathan Wier (14:55) So. Okay. They do, but they're not... I'm gonna make a lot of people mad. Ayla Brown (15:04) That's okay. I don't have school age kids, so make people mad. Jonathan Wier (15:09) I'm not saying that New England schools aren't good. I'm not saying that. But the school district we're in here is Blue Valley School District. It's always ranked in the top five school districts in the country. It's one of the reasons we moved here is like we can get the kids a great education. We can afford to live here. You know, we have lots of friends, family in the area and all that stuff, right? So you are right though, because Lexington was so Ayla Brown (15:20) Mmm. Jonathan Wier (15:34) focused on college and standardized testing and making sure they're prepared for, you know, what's going to happen four years from now and not really present. I feel like that what it on just their kids, their 15, their 16, their 17, their 18. It was more like, no, they're going to be 18 and 19 and 20 and 20. You know what I mean? Ayla Brown (15:49) Hmm. I totally understand what you mean because I lived that school system except without the standardized testing. Cause at private schools, they didn't need to abide by that, which thank God, because then you're able to like critically think a little bit more as opposed to just studying for those tests, which is extremely frustrating and hindering as a kid. In my opinion, you're not supposed to, we don't learn. We don't use anything from those tests as an, as adults. So why are we putting so much emphasis on them as children where, like you said, they should just be able to be kids and go outside. So I actually went to Canada this past weekend to Quebec City and we drove up there. It took us about six hours with the kids. And at one point we crossed into Canada and it was, how much snow was on the ground? I would say it. six inches maybe already on the ground because it's Canada. So of course they've already had snowfall up there and we passed by a school and it must have been recess because all of the Canadian kids, elementary school kids were in their snow suits and they were playing outside with each other. Like the recess that I remember and I don't know if recess is a thing these days, but I will say I rarely see kids like playing outside anymore, especially like all weather condition. It didn't even matter. They're like, hats, gloves, snow suits, let's go. They were still on the monkey bars and all sorts of stuff. It was so nice to see. Jonathan Wier (17:25) No. that, mean, I don't know, Finn has to take snow boots to school. So I wonder if they, they are going outside here. Ayla Brown (17:40) Did he go outside in Lexington? Jonathan Wier (17:43) No, not when it's snowed, no. Ayla Brown (17:45) Yeah. See, that's what I mean. It's like, get your ass out there. Have fun. Jonathan Wier (17:51) You know what's funny is, you know, we can't, people always complain that there's no, we're not having enough kids, like the population is plummeting. And God only knows what's causing that. I know what's causing it. Kids aren't going outside to play. That's why kids aren't going out. Mom and dad don't have any time to make little brothers and sisters. Ayla Brown (18:07) Yes! Or money! Jonathan Wier (18:13) a very short window between when the kids have been put to bed and when you're tired. And sometimes those two overlap drastically. So yeah, there's just no time. Yeah. Kids need to go outside and play. When was, I'm going to ask this question of the chat. When did you guys start going outside by yourself? What age are you and what, when did you start going outside by yourself? Like when you could just go out and explore your neighborhood. Ayla Brown (18:28) I agree. Jonathan Wier (18:41) I think I was four. I think I was four, maybe five. Ayla Brown (18:45) No way! Jonathan Wier (18:46) I genuinely remember going to my friend Brian's house and he lived like down the street and I remember being like three or four years old doing it. Ayla Brown (18:54) No one walked you there, you just walked yourself. Jonathan Wier (18:57) No, just walking by myself. mean, again, whereas there's a seven years difference between me and you. So this was, this would have been like the mid eighties when that, when I would have been doing that. People were a lot less terrified of, you know, strangers with candy and vans and sharp knives and God knows what. Ayla Brown (19:06) Yeah. or just child protective services, because apparently these days, if you were four-year-old walking to a neighbor's house. Jonathan Wier (19:20) yeah, at least they should. Nobody even thought about that. It would be considered child abuse if your kid never went outside. Ayla Brown (19:26) We're getting a few responses. Some say eight years old and Linda said eight years old, but that was in 1978. Jess said, I lived in a very small neighborhood. was four. Carol Ann said 12. A lot of people are saying four or five years old, which is kind of, I feel like that's a little young, but maybe not. Cause I actually live in a pretty safe neighborhood. have two little cul-de-sacs and there are some young kids, which is awesome for my little family. But I see kids like riding their bikes all the time and they're like six, five, six, they're just, they go around and they go visit each other's houses and there there's no parents like outside helicopter watching them. Jonathan Wier (20:11) That's a thing in here in Kansas that was different than Massachusetts and it's worse in Kansas than it is there. Because cars can drive faster here. I'm not making a joke. It's literally it. Cars can drive so much faster here. every, there's no street where you're going less than 30 or 40 miles an hour here. Whereas in Lexington, you were lucky to get up to 15 to 20, right? Kids rode home from school, rode their bikes, walked. When that first day when Henry got lost, Ayla Brown (20:30) Hmm. Jonathan Wier (20:41) when he was supposed to wait for me to pick him up and they told him which he was in the wrong line and he started walking, whatever. They were like, it's okay though, like kids walk home from school all the time. They're like, he's not gonna get hit by a car or anything, he'll be fine. And I was like, honestly, that's great. I wasn't worried about him getting hit by a car, I more worried about him getting lost in the woods or something and us not being able to freaking find him. Anyway, do you wanna do mud, study hall or group therapy? Ayla Brown (21:04) Yeah. I want to do the mud real quick, just because we tease that we were going to do that. And then we can move on to the other things. And thank you to everyone who's contributing to the conversation right now. I absolutely love it. So thank you. So today for some celebrity news, there's two different stories I wanted to talk about. The first is obviously the California wildfires that are happening right now, completely devastating. And it is just. Jonathan Wier (21:19) Yeah, that's great. Ayla Brown (21:36) heartbreaking to see the videos and the testimonies of people and especially those who have lost literally everything. I saw a video today of a woman who came back to her place and said that there was just like one lemon from a lemon tree and she made the metaphor of like, I'm gonna make lemonade with this, you know, and it's just like, oh my God. Jonathan Wier (21:58) much lemonade, a single whole of lemonade. Ayla Brown (22:01) It would be, listen, it would be a shot of lemonade, but I'm with her. You know what I mean? Like my heart just broke for her. So I saw this story and I thought, Hmm, I feel like it's a little not the right time, but I want to hear how you feel about it, Jonathan. So Jessica Simpson and her now ex, apparently she and Eric Johnson announced their split after 10 years of marriage. Now this is her. second marriage, Nick Lachey was her first, if we all remember from 98 Degrees. And he was also previously married as well. I don't know who he was married to, but just in this week alone, they announced their separation. But just a couple days ago, amid the Los Angeles wildfires, she decided to put her mansion up for sale. And Jonathan Wier (22:29) with it. Ayla Brown (22:49) It's just really interesting to me because the house went up, then the wildfires got bigger. So at first the house went up when they were just a little small, then the wildfires got bigger and she slashed the price by $4 million. So it went from like 22 million to 17 or 18 or something. And I just thought to myself, I don't know if it's the right time to be. putting your house up for sale, knowing that it could be, and I hope it's not, but like, it could be burned down. Like, is this bad taste, right? Because everyone is canceling things right now. Beyonce is canceling stuff. I think the Grammys are being put on hold. Jonathan Wier (23:22) Yeah. The Ram was supposed to play at Tupac Stadium and they didn't play there. They played in Arizona. Can you bear with me for a minute? Because this driving me crazy. I'm going to leave the studio and come back see if I can fix this stupid thing. Because people are still complaining about not being able to hear me. So I'll be right back. Okay, one second. Ayla Brown (23:43) no, okay. Okay. Okay. left with me. Hmm. Yeah, that's so weird that you guys cannot hear him. I am not sure why. Jonathan Wier (23:52) Hopefully that's better. Hey, we're on different sides. Ayla Brown (23:55) I know, hi. We flip flippy flop. Jonathan Wier (23:56) but now I can't hear you. Ayla Brown (23:58) You can't hear me? Jonathan Wier (23:59) Fantastic. No, this is going great. This is great. Yeah, I can't hear you. You can hear me. Ayla Brown (24:02) can hear you. What? Yes. Jonathan Wier (24:09) I'm gonna be right back. Ayla Brown (24:11) Okay, he's going, my gosh. Next time Jonathan leaves and he says he's leaving, it's probably because he's pooping. Just saying. Also, I'm gonna take this opportunity to change my lighting. Let's see. my gosh, no, yes, no, gosh. This is very scary. there he is. Do hear me? no! Jonathan Wier (24:29) Wait. Wait, I know why. I'll be back. Ayla Brown (24:32) shoot. This is too funny. Honestly, this is what live is all about. When we were on the station, you never know what could have happened because live radio is live radio and this is truly alive. So I know that he's not going to want to actually get out, but. No? You still can't hear me? Jonathan Wier (24:52) This went, this, this, that was the second where it went from being funny to torture. What you think of this? Ayla Brown (25:00) Yeah, I don't know. Do want me to call you? Jonathan Wier (25:02) I don't know. I don't know. Ayla Brown (25:04) Okay, wow, this is actually like probably not gonna happen. If we have to, now I'm nervous. If we have to stop our recording, would you guys like us to restart and kind of pick up where we left off so he can figure out what's going on? I would love to see how many people are actually listening live right now. So if that's the case and we do have to restart, he's fine. I know. Jonathan Wier (25:29) it goes. Ayla Brown (25:30) are you back? Jonathan Wier (25:31) Yep. I can hear you. Ayla Brown (25:32) You hear me? thank God. I was getting nervous. I put up my hair because I was starting to sweat. I was like, I could do a whole show by myself. Was I prepared for it? No. So anyways, resuming to what we were just talking about, I hope people can hear you better. I'll turn my. Jonathan Wier (25:41) Yeah. Sure. Sorry about that. Hopefully. Otherwise that was for nothing. Yeah. Ayla Brown (25:54) Literally nothing. anyways, so just Jessica Simpson, Eric Johnson, just to recap, they got, they're getting divorced and she's put her house up for sale amid all of these celebrities and who are kind of like represent Los Angeles have halted everything that they're doing, which makes sense. Like they should. Do you think that Jessica Simpson though, should halt the sale of her house? Even though divorces don't stop due to wildfires, like, do you think that it's in bad form that she did that or kind of the right thing to do? Jonathan Wier (26:35) I don't really get it. I think that, and I don't know anything about divorce or divorce law. Seems like you could wait to put your house up for sale until after the wildfires. But then maybe she's like, okay, look, it's never, the price is never going to be as good as it is now because after the wildfires, nobody's going to want to live here. But nobody wants to live there now. So I don't know. Yeah. Ayla Brown (27:01) I was going to say, yeah, not like she needs the money anyway, which is what Jessica said. Another Jessica, not Jessica Simpson. I was also looking at some like previous photos of Jessica Simpson and my goodness, she is like, her appearance has changed so much in the past decade or so. Jonathan Wier (27:23) Did she? Did she age? I hate it when... Not everybody. I hate it when women do that. It's just disgusting. Who do you guys think you are? Ayla Brown (27:31) Oh my God. No, but she went through like, she went through a really, I hate to use the word dramatic, but like in this case, I'm just using it. She went through a dramatic weight loss and I think she lost like a hundred pounds, but, she's been sober for seven years. So I, you know, good for her, but she looks different, right? Jonathan Wier (27:53) Wow. Let me pull up, let me see if I can share a picture of her for the whole class to see. Ayla Brown (28:02) Yep. Jessica Simpson, 2024. Yeah. Jonathan Wier (28:02) Yeah, yeah, hold on, let me share a better version, hold on. this is what she looks like. Ayla Brown (28:10) Yeah, are you sure that's her? Jonathan Wier (28:12) That it says it's her Instagram. Spring break in with the fam was epic. Thank you, Tina Simpson official for giving these kiddos memorable moments in Cabo that they will hold close. I. Ayla Brown (28:16) man. Yeah, yeah. See guys, natural is beautiful. And I feel like we've lost that as a culture and as a society, especially for women. I'm not talking to the men out there. Men, it's socially acceptable to age like fine wine and it's like handsome and people love it. The second a woman starts to get gray hair, it's like shunned upon or natural lips, they feel like they have to like put filler in them. That is what happens if you just saw the photo of when you take it too far and when you've done it for too long and you can't stop. Jonathan Wier (29:09) Can I tell you that that is what happens when you don't have anybody in your life telling you that you don't look good? Honestly, that's what that is. That is, nobody in her life has sat down with her and been like, Jessica, I know that you think this is helping you, but you have whatever the opposite of body dysmorphia is, where you think you look good when you actually... You have a reverse shallow howl syndrome. You think you look good, but you're starting to look... like the Cryptkeeper and we are worried about you. Ayla Brown (29:37) I'm only rolling my eyes because I totally agree with you, but like, who would be the person to do that? The person she's probably closest with, my God, is- Jonathan Wier (29:45) Tony Romo. Tony Romo needs to on on the next game that he's an announcer for the next CBF. I don't know. I he's doing the Bills and Ravens game just in the middle of it. He should be like and by the way, Josh Allen throws a touchdown. Fantastic. Jessica, sweetie. I know we aren't a thing anymore. Ayla Brown (29:53) You're kidding. HAHAHAHA Jonathan Wier (30:06) But for the love of God, could you please stop injecting things into your face? Ayla Brown (30:06) my god, could you imagine? my God. Melissa just commented saying, look at Pamela Anderson. She's going without makeup. It's great. I actually think the same. It's kind of bringing some normalcy to aging. Jonathan Wier (30:22) Yeah, she looks great. She looks... What's weird about Pamela Anderson is she looks totally different than she did before, but she looks great. Yeah, she looks natural. Kimberly, we're talking about Jessica Simpson. Yeah. Ayla Brown (30:31) She does. She does. Yes, thank you. Kimberly clearly just tuned into the live stream, which welcome, welcome to all the people who are listening to this kind of crazy off and on live stream. Truly live, if you can believe it. Also, that's, that's, that's just one topic. The second topic I wanted to talk about for the celebrity mud is a Brittany and Patrick Mahomes, your boy, just your boy. Jonathan Wier (30:46) Finally got it figured out. Ayla Brown (31:04) just announced that they had their third child and the names are just killing me. And I don't know what, like we always make fun of celebrities and the names that they give their children and not once have the children of these two people been brought up because if so, I totally would have made fun of them. So Brittany and Patrick Mahone, they already have a daughter named Sterling, a son. Jonathan Wier (31:10) believe you want to make fun of this. and Ayla Brown (31:33) named Bronze and now a daughter named Golden. Tell me how that's not as bad as blue Beyonce's daughter or Apple or so many people made fun of them. But I think Brittany and Patrick, I hate to be mean, but like, what are you that narcissistic and conceited in yourself that you have to name your kids like gold and bronze and stert? Jonathan Wier (31:43) you mean where people made fun of them? Or Elon Musk kids being named after like the symbol for Boron? Well, first of all, yes, first of all, the son is named Bronze because he's the third. His actual name is Patrick Mahomes the third. So Bronze, get it? Yeah, Bronze. The daughter's name's Sterling. The other daughter's name Golden. I don't have any problem with it because both Ayla Brown (32:04) Literally gold, silver and bronze. Are you an Olympic team? So the nickname is Bronze. Okay. Okay. Jonathan Wier (32:31) Patrick Mahomes and his wife are athletes and they named their kid Gold Silver Bronze. I think that's actually kind of awesome. Also, Ayla Brown (32:39) Jonathan, and I were athletes too. You're telling me that if I came into the studio. Jonathan Wier (32:44) I'm not gonna sit here and listen to a woman who named her child Bear that somebody else can't name their kids Sterling or Bronze or Golden. Ayla Brown (32:50) What's the nickname? It's Barrett. It's Barrett. We call him Bear because it's cute and he's a toddler. Okay? Jonathan Wier (32:58) huh. I'm not saying it's not cute, but it's unusual. Ayla Brown (33:03) Shh. Okay, that's fine. Jonathan Wier (33:06) It is! It's an unusual name. Ayla Brown (33:08) But if I came into the studio and said that I was naming my child Golden, you would laugh me out of that room. You would. I was gonna say, you're blinded by your love for him. That's it. Jonathan Wier (33:16) Not if you were bad for my homes. Alright, I don't care. Fine. That man has brought me enough joy in my life that I'm willing to let him get away with naming his kids after precious metals and not I don't I don't think there's something wrong with naming your kids something like that. So long as it's a positive superlative you know what I mean? When come on, it's still hard play. Ayla Brown (33:27) Hahaha bronze is not hello. Nobody wants to be third place, okay? Jonathan Wier (33:50) At least you got something. If anything, Sterling is worse because that's second place. Nobody wants it. Third is like, I got something. I did okay. Second is like, man, if I'd just been a little bit better. If I'd trained for 15 more minutes than that person, maybe I would have gotten it. I think it's so long as they're positive names, it's fine. I think it's weird when celebrities name their kids something like Apple or... Ayla Brown (33:58) Okay. Jonathan Wier (34:13) I don't know what are the weirdest. Ayla Brown (34:15) When Apple a day keeps the doctor away, how is that not positive? Jonathan Wier (34:21) Because it depends on the Apple. Maybe it's a Granny Smith and we just don't know it. Pilot Inspector? Who was that? That was Jason Lee, named his daughter Pilot Inspector. It Blue Ivy. Moxie Crimefighter? That was Penjolet's daughter. Yeah, Moxie Crimefighter is definitely weird. Ayla Brown (34:25) What's wrong with Granny Smith apples? Okay, so weird. Yeah, no, I think so. But I actually think like when I think of golden, I just wonder like. Jonathan Wier (34:47) Yeah. Ayla Brown (34:52) What are you gonna do when you grow up with that name? And I'm sorry, I'm being a little judgy, but I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure she's gonna change it. Jonathan Wier (34:57) You grew up with me, hold on. What is what is her whose name golden? What is her last name again? She's gonna be okay. She's gonna be fine. You think anybody's gonna care what her first name is when you think guys are gonna be like, I'm not dating a girl named golden. Just like what so I can meet her famous dad who Ayla Brown (35:04) Yes. Moms. No, because she needs her own identity. Yes? Welcome to the stage, Golden Mahomes! Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Jonathan Wier (35:26) What? No, that's not a stripper name. That's not a stripper name. Golden Showers, mohomes, maybe. But not Golden Mohomes. Ayla Brown (35:37) my God. What's the middle name is the question. Jonathan Wier (35:40) I don't know. Actually, that is a good question. Nobody's gonna care. I think that is the ultimate hubris of being a celebrity is you can name your kid whatever they want. One, they don't have to worry about money. They have generational wealth. Two, nobody's gonna make fun of their name because their whole life they're gonna be surrounded by yes men who kick some kid's ass for making fun of them. Three, even if a kid was gonna make fun of them, they probably wouldn't because they don't wanna piss off the daughter of Patrick Mahomes. Ayla Brown (36:05) You think Patrick Mahomes, do you think Patrick Mahomes will be in the history books? if, let's just say, I'm, knocking on wood right now, but like, what if he gets a career ending injury on Sunday? Do you think that he's had enough? Jonathan Wier (36:05) At he doesn't kiss his kids on the lips. Yeah. dare you. I'm gonna be at the game. First of all, he's playing on Saturday, so it would be weird if he got a career ending injury on Sunday. No, like, I don't know what's happening. Like, what did he do? He got into a car accident? Ayla Brown (36:25) Gosh dang. Let's just say that his career is over for some reason. Do you think he has enough of a legendary career status where he's going to be remembered forever? Jonathan Wier (36:37) Yes. Well, I don't know what you mean by history books. Like, like, are you talking about like, histories or you mean like Hall of Fame? He's already going to be in the Hall of Fame. He's won three Super Bowls. Yeah, no, I mean, that's, I don't know. Ayla Brown (36:49) No? Okay. So my point is that his daughter will be okay, even if, you know. Jonathan Wier (36:55) Yeah, yeah, you, Ayla, you, you have no idea the amount of love if so long as they stay in the Kansas City area, the amount of love that this this place has, it's just pulsating with love for Patrick Holmes. I don't honestly, he's like too invested. He has like all these restaurants and stuff here. I mean, maybe he would, but I even if he did, I mean, I don't know, I just think that Ayla Brown (37:08) Ooh, what if they don't, what if he moves? So? Jonathan Wier (37:21) I don't think your name matters that much. I don't think it determines that much. But a lot of people agree with you. They think the name's bizarre. I think it's totally fine. But again, if it was Tom Brady, I'd be like, okay, that's a stupid name. Like Golden Brady? Come on. Ayla Brown (37:25) Only your last name. Yep, that's what you're saying. Okay. my gosh. Okay. Well, let's move on to, you want to do study hall and then group therapy? Because I do have a kind of personal group therapy that I want to run by the audience. So let's just. Jonathan Wier (37:49) Yeah, let's do some study hall, and then we'll hit Group Therapy in just a minute. So, and then I want to do over and underrated things. Let's do this in this order. I'm going to do one study hall thing, and then we'll do the over-under, and then we'll end with Group Therapy. So here's the first thing. Study hall. Here's a new study. One in five Gen Zers can't change a light bulb. Ayla Brown (38:00) yeah. Okay. Perfect. Jonathan Wier (38:13) In a new survey, one in five people between the ages of 18 and 27, which is Gen Z, claimed they couldn't change a light bulb and would just hire someone else to do it, especially if it was a ceiling light, because going up a ladder would be too dangerous. Again, this is a generation that wasn't allowed outside. So this is, is this another sign of the times now that screwable light bulbs are being purchased, phased out for LED lamps that last 10 to 20 years or are Gen Zers just being lazy? Well, according to study, it's probably laziness. They found that Gen Zers are spending more than $1,500 a year on average, calling in professionals to do basic jobs that they could probably do themselves. That's five times what Boomers, Gen X, and Millennials spend. It isn't just changing light bulbs. Survey also found that a lot of Gen Zers don't know how to do basic car maintenance, even cleaning it. hanging picture frames and some didn't recognize common tools like a wrench. All right. I am going to say that it's first of all, sounds bad. It's still one in five. So it's not that many. It's not the majority. It's one in five. So let's cool our jets on bastardizing and forsaking an entire generation based on this. I'll say this too. Anybody wants to criticize Gen Zers for this, I'll say the same thing that as a millennial, I grew up saying. who raised us? Whose job was it to teach them this stuff? Who failed them? They don't know how to do this? Was somebody supposed to show them how to do it? It's just like when boomers used to give us as millennials crap about participation trophies. We weren't the ones wanting them. You guys were handing them to us. We got participation trophies because you went to the damn trophy store to buy them. Ayla Brown (40:04) It was so cool to get trophies though. Jonathan Wier (40:06) It was! It was awesome! It meant more if they weren't participation trophies. I remember getting a participation trophy and throwing it in the trash when I was like seven years old. Because I was mad that we didn't win a real trophy. It was for baseball. I was pissed off. Ayla Brown (40:08) It was so great. No, I know. my gosh. See, I'm, I'm so egotistical that I kept all the trophies no matter what, even if they are participation or not. but you know what I find very interesting about Gen Z is that they have all of the information at their fingertips way more than you and I did when we were their age, right? Because Jonathan Wier (40:37) Fair, they have YouTube. Yeah. Ayla Brown (40:38) If we wanted, like I'm remembering my days in elementary school where if I wanted to look up a book, I had to go to the Dewey Decimal System and actually look through the cards and find it. It was just such a, or if I had a question, I would go to a friend or a family member and ask them, hey, how do I make bread? How do I change a light bulb? Gen Z has all of that literally on their phone. You can go to YouTube, you can Google it, you can AI search it, you can ask chat GPT. Jonathan Wier (41:07) I Ayla Brown (41:07) So I think you're totally right on the money where it's just laziness or I don't know, are they scared to change a light bulb? Like maybe they think everything they do is gonna result in them getting hurt somehow emotionally, physically. Jonathan Wier (41:17) Yeah. because they were raised by people who taught them that as soon as you go outside, somebody's going to kidnap you and kill you. They're raised by people and taught them that if you get on a bike without wearing a full suit of armor, you're going to die. So yeah, of course they're worried about changing light bulbs, but you are right. They have YouTube videos. They can go on YouTube and watch videos and see how to do that. The only problem with that is which YouTube video do you trust? Because not all of them are accurate. Also, having to sit through a commercial just to watch this. Who has the time? Who has the time? Ayla Brown (41:55) my God, then like I said, ask chat GPT, ask a friend, call your mom or call your dad, because hopefully they'll know how to change a damn light bulb. this is getting, okay, well, I'm just saying this is getting embarrassing. What's gonna happen to Gen Z's kids? I think they're going to literally sleep in like a. Jonathan Wier (42:04) Gen Z doesn't call people, they text at best. they are going Ayla Brown (42:18) You know those pods on like first class airplanes that I've never been privy to sleep in, but I always envy those who do. I feel like they're going to just wake up and say, excuse me, robot, please bring me my orange juice. And they're going to just sit there and like veg out all day. Jonathan Wier (42:25) Mm-hmm. I They're going to willingly embrace the Matrix. Like, do you realize that? That is the end result of civilization. Is that people will willingly get into the amniotic whatever pods that they're in in the Matrix and they'll be plugged into a computer system that'll make them feel like they're alive when their body's actually just kind of hibernating and being used for batteries by the robot overlords except for we'll be like, yep, good. They don't have to worry about anything. I'm protected. That's the thing with Ayla Brown (43:04) That's so scary. Jonathan Wier (43:04) movies like that they don't get into. So many people would watch that movie now and be like, what's wrong with the Matrix? I want to live in there. I want to be in there. Have every all my needs taken provided for? Of course, takes all the uncertainty out of life. Ayla Brown (43:17) And then you would have like crazy wilderness people that are really just like those who don't live like that and they're still like making their own bread. And it would be like such a distinct difference between the two cultures of those who are just plugged in in the back of the head. And then those who are like outside gardening, God forbid gardening, would have thought. Jonathan Wier (43:23) You. Maybe you. I'll be eyes here. I'll be honest with I was saying all of that stuff about the Matrix with total disdain in my voice, but deep down, I kind of dain it. A little bit, I'm kind of like, I don't know. I wouldn't have to worry about the sun giving me cancer. I could get drunk without any consequences to my body. eat whatever I want. Sign me up for the Matrix. Ayla Brown (44:01) But you wouldn't be living, Jonathan. Get out of here. Jonathan Wier (44:04) my living now. All right. We're gonna do this real quick. What is over or underrated? I'm going to give five things and then we're going to decide whether they are over or underrated. First one pumpkin spice lattes never had one so I have no idea over or underrated. Ayla Brown (44:19) Cool. Okay. So like 10 years ago, I loved them. then like, lately, as my palate started changing, I realized that I couldn't drink them. And I was like, what is like, why can't I drink PSLs? Like I've loved PSLs. Turns out that the ingredients in PSLs are terrible for you, which is probably why my body was like. Jonathan Wier (44:23) Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. yeah, they're horrible. Rejecting them? Yeah. Ayla Brown (44:44) because I started like not eating crap as much and my body could tell. So I'm gonna say that right now, currently in my life, they are overrated. Jonathan Wier (44:54) I'll say they're overrated because I've never had a desire to even have one. They smell nice though. I'll say that. Ayla Brown (45:00) Mmm, just wait till you try one. Jonathan Wier (45:03) I okay, I need to find one that actually okay concert vip passes over or underrated. I'm going to rephrase this. Spending a bunch of money on a concert. Is that over or underrated? I know you're gonna say it's underrated. Ayla Brown (45:19) Well, I'm not, I just have follow up questions. like when I heard VIP concert tickets, I thought like you would be able to meet the artist, like pay for a meet and greet. Jonathan Wier (45:22) Okay. Sure. So pay for meet and greet with an artist. Is that over or underrated? Ayla Brown (45:33) I think that it's underrated. think that if you really love an artist and you have the means to pay for tickets to meet that person who's changed your life, and by change your life, I mean, the music has changed your life. think that it would be worth the experience. And I only say that as someone who like you, Jonathan, we've met artists before. And it's almost kind of like life-changing for us. mean, at least for me, meeting some of these people where I'm like, my gosh, I can't believe that's, you don't feel that way. Jonathan Wier (46:02) Not gonna be shocked by this. It's a total opposite feeling. I was like, oh cool. Yeah, I get to talk to Kenny Chesney today. Cool. That's awesome. Well, I'm not saying, I'm not saying it right. I'm saying it like sarcastically. I don't mean that. I meant like, yeah, of course I get to talk to Kenny Chesney. I am awesome and I live an awesome life. Of course I get to like talk to cool people. So I don't know, maybe I'm just like too narcissistic. Like I wouldn't want to meet an artist. Ayla Brown (46:06) see I love it. Jonathan Wier (46:30) just to meet somebody who's like have such a much better life than me. I'm gonna pay. Like that's where it bothered me. I'm gonna pay to meet somebody, pay to just stand next to them for 10 seconds while somebody takes my picture. Unless it's Santa Claus, I ain't doing that. Ayla Brown (46:37) Mmm. I know. I, well, you still have to pay to see Santa Claus. Jonathan Wier (46:48) Mm-hmm. Yeah. Ayla Brown (46:50) So really is nothing, nothing is cheap these days. And that's why I say like, if you have the means, but like what people have the means these days. mean, I told you about the time that I bought tickets to see Zach Brian at Gillette stadium and spent like $900 on tickets and the sound was awful. And I was on the, I bought tickets in the pit and I couldn't even hear it. Hardly anything he said. So yeah. Jonathan Wier (47:08) Yeah. Right. We're saying. Yeah. Well, you were lucky. See, Jess says, I've met Rascal Flat several times, totally worth my money. And Susan says, but Ayla, you are in a different place than us peons. Ayla Brown (47:26) What's that mean? Jonathan Wier (47:27) I think it means like you get to meet famous people and and that that's I think actually that makes a list case better because she's saying even though your A.L. is saying even though you've met a ton of famous people it's worth it because it's really cool to meet somebody who's changed your life and you would spend money on that even if you didn't maybe have the kind of access that you do versus other people who don't. Yeah. Ayla Brown (47:42) Yeah. Yeah. if I, so here's the thing, if I wasn't. Jonathan Wier (47:51) I'm saying it's not worth it because they're rarely do have I met a celebrity I was like, Oh boy, that was what a cool person. It was more like I got to ask them questions for five minutes. the only I will say Weird Al was really cool. That was awesome. Ayla Brown (48:04) my gosh. Yeah, you told us that story. That was so cool and he was so nice to Finn and yeah, I mean, so see there's some people out there that it would be worth the experience for that. So, okay, next one. okay. Okay, so here's the sitch, okay? And it is kind of personal, but it involves me, but not really. And it could involve me and I'll explain how. So back when I was married, Jonathan Wier (48:10) Yeah. Finn, yeah. Alright, let's go to group therapy. Well, we're out of time. Ayla Brown (48:38) My ex had a best friend, okay? His best friend flew into Nashville and stayed with us. He was married at the time and I believe that they had at least one child. I didn't know this until the next day that I woke up, but my ex's friend, I'm gonna call him Bob, okay? His name is not Bob. Bob ended up sleeping with one of my friends, had sex, okay? Cheated on his wife. Jonathan Wier (49:10) Oh my God, they didn't just sleep next to each other then wow. Ayla Brown (49:12) I wanted to make it very clear that there was something bad going on, okay? And so for 13 years or so, I've kind of kept this secret of that interaction between Bob and my friend, okay? I've not told anyone except everyone listening right now. But I mean, I haven't told the wife. Jonathan Wier (49:16) Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Ayla Brown (49:34) Recently, I've been seeing the wife post on Instagram talking about, I had a really great meeting with my lawyer today. The divorce is going great. It's been a real struggle over the past year, but I'm on the other side and I'm like, Jonathan Wier (49:38) Yeah. The divorce? Yeah. Ayla Brown (49:52) Maybe Bob cheated again. Maybe he did. Maybe he's a habitual cheater and she finally found out. So I wrote her a message today on Instagram and I said to her, listen, I don't know exactly what happened in the divorce, but I do want to say I'm really sorry that you're going through this. And as someone who's been through one before, just so you know, sometimes it is way better to call it off and I wish you the best. And she immediately responded like within seconds and she goes, my gosh, thank you so much. Bob is an alcoholic and has been for many years and it's gotten so severe that he's had DUIs. He's gone and I've had to bail him out of jail. he's been like emotionally abusive toward me and I just feel super unsafe with the kids. And I thought, my. Jonathan Wier (50:35) Hmm. Ayla Brown (50:46) gosh, I wrote back, I'm so sorry you're going through this. Alcoholism is no joke, like that's so scary. She goes, yeah, I even had a restraining order on him for seven months. And the divorce right now is heating up. He wants 50, custody of the kids, but I feel like they're in an unsafe position. So I'm hearing all this and I'm reading it. And all of a sudden I think to myself, Jonathan Wier (50:59) Wow. Yeah. Ayla Brown (51:17) I'm kind of on her side. He is a jerk. He cheated on her already 13 years ago with my friend. So she still doesn't know. So my question is, should I tell her that he cheated so she gets a little bit more ammo in the divorce if it helps her? Because she's clearly trying to fight. Jonathan Wier (51:22) Yeah. But she doesn't know that. Okay. Ayla Brown (51:43) for the protection of her children, and maybe she doesn't know that he's a cheater. And would that help? I don't know. Is it just making me seem like so out of the blue and I'm the absolute jerk for not saying anything 13 years ago? Or is it my place to say anything or should I just keep my business to myself and just keep my mouth shut? Jonathan Wier (52:08) Yeah. Ayla Brown (52:08) So I would love to hear what you think. Obviously audience too, if you want to chime in. Jonathan Wier (52:10) Alright. Yeah, guys, chime in with what you... People are already doing that, so just chime in. So the gist of it is, some friends of yours getting divorced, you know that the husband cheated like, what'd you say, 13, 14 years ago? And the wife doesn't know about it. She could use it as ammo in the divorce, should Ayla tell her. Now here's the thing. I don't think you should. And initially... When we talked about this before the show, I was like, well, of course you should. And then I think about it, I'm like, I don't know that's going to help her that much in the divorce. Two, it also might make her feel really bad. Like not, it might make her feel bad whether she knows or not. If she doesn't know, then it might make her go like, my God, like I kind of suspected it, but he was cheating and everybody knew. Everybody knew that my husband was a scumbag who was cheating on me. Ayla Brown (52:44) That's what I'm thinking. Right. Yeah. Jonathan Wier (53:01) and probably feeling so sorry for me and they and also they kept this a secret from me like I thought they were my friends. The other way, if she does know that he was cheating, she might be like, yeah, I know like, yeah, thank you for bringing that one up. I know. I'm glad that everybody knows about it. Glad everybody knows that he was cheating on me. So I just don't think there's a positive outcome that really helps her. Ayla Brown (53:16) Hmm. Jonathan Wier (53:27) helps the friendship and yeah, okay. Ayla Brown (53:30) I'm not even friends with her. I'm not even friends with him. would really just, it was my ex-husband's friend and his wife that I had met once or twice in my life. So it's not like there's this connection where I feel like the need to tell her. That's why I almost feel like. Jonathan Wier (53:48) Well, almost universally the chat says no. Stay out of it. I'll just read what everyone says. has a, Melissa says don't tell her. Jessica says it's too late to say anything. They're already divorcing. Don't have her mad at you for holding this all in for all these years. Time to just let it go. If you want the friendship with her, she may question why you didn't tell her before. Cheating won't. Ayla Brown (53:49) Would it? Okay, go ahead. Jonathan Wier (54:12) take the custody away from him but could hurt your relationship. Susan says no, Rebecca says, I think you should leave that one alone. Clearly she's getting away from him. She'll wonder why you hadn't said it sooner. It's a moot point now. Ayla Brown (54:21) Yeah. You know what? I actually agree with everyone and what the audience is saying, which is why I didn't say anything today because my gut says it's a no. But at what point is it appropriate to tell somebody that they're being cheated on? I guess. I, my God. So is it, is there a Jonathan Wier (54:46) during. Ayla Brown (54:50) statute of limitations here because everyone is saying like too much time has gone by like I get it but so you're telling me that I should have told her the day that it happened and the day that I found out and woke up to Jonathan Wier (54:55) Yeah. Yeah, because I mean, yeah. I mean, I'm not saying I would have. I've certainly kept secrets from friends before that I knew would hurt them and didn't want, you know, I don't know if it's been anything like that, but definitely have like kept things from people. So I'm not saying I'm better than you, but I think morally the time to do it would have been when you found out because she had a right to know that. Ayla Brown (55:29) I know, but at the time when I was married and your husband says to you, don't say anything, because it's my best friend, I literally didn't say anything for the whole duration of the time we were together, plus some, obviously. Jonathan Wier (55:37) Mm-hmm. Yeah, but your husband was a scumbag. Yeah, not your current husband, by the way, is your ex husband, right? Yeah, that guy was a scumbag. So you shouldn't have listened to anything he had to say about anything. You shouldn't have been like, you know what? No, I'm gonna go towards your friendship with this guy because F you, you suck. And so does he. And if this is the kind of person you're best friends with, huge red flag, bigger than the one behind me. There you go. Yeah. Ayla Brown (55:50) Yes, correct. I just, well like, yeah. Ugh. I know. No pun intended. Okay, okay, Jessica asked an important question. Jessica's very much on this chat today, which I appreciate. She says, when would you like to know if it happened to you? That's a good question. So let's just say I've moved on with my life and 13 years have gone by and I have kids, I'm happy in a relationship. then I, maybe, I'm not really sure. She didn't give specifics, but I'm just putting myself in my current position. And I'm not saying Rob would ever do this, but you know, if he did, and I didn't find out. Jonathan Wier (56:32) with the same person who cheated. Ayla Brown (56:47) for 15 years from now would be like, what the F? You know, I would have, I probably would have wanted to know, but also how good is life 15 years from now? I happy? Can I get over it? Can I forgive? And I think that's a really important question is how, what? Jonathan Wier (56:50) Yeah. Right. I wouldn't want to know. Yeah. Here's a hypothetical. What if it's like the bachelor party and the guy gets a little too frisky with a stripper? Ayla Brown (57:19) Is it my guy? Jonathan Wier (57:21) Say it's your husband or say it's somebody, yeah, say it's somebody you're marrying. I don't want to make it too real and say it's your husband now because I know he would never do that. But I'm just saying if you were married to somebody and you found out that at the bachelor party, he didn't have sex with, like, but they had a stripper, one. And two, he got really handsy and frisky with the stripper. Would you want to know that? Ayla Brown (57:46) Did I tell you the story about how Rob used our joint account to get into a strip club? And that's how I found out that he went to a strip club. I was so pissed. was like, are you kidding me? He's like, sorry, I thought it was the, it's like, my God. So I personally, what? Jonathan Wier (57:52) Yes! You went to ZRF Club, Can I tell you something? That was, if that wasn't just abject, a guy being a dumb guy, then that was a stroke of genius. Because he's like, he's like, I'm so innocent, that I can use our joint account to let her know that I'm going into a strip club, because she knows that I would never do anything. Ayla Brown (58:14) Why? I know I love I honestly love him so much and the communication I know Jonathan Wier (58:28) That way I don't even have to tell her she just looks at and knows. So yeah, like if he got too frisky, yes. Ayla Brown (58:32) But to answer your question, to answer your question, I really don't like strip clubs. And I really feel like in many ways, even just going to them is sleazy. I, it's not really, I understand guys do it and some girls, but I also just don't believe that it's the character of a person that I would want to be with if they enjoyed it a lot. So, Jonathan Wier (58:49) I don't. I have friends who've gone astray. I've never once, and it's not even that I've, I have a moral repulsion to it. It's more like I don't want, I don't, I don't see the, the thrill in it. Now, if it was Katie, then dancing for me. yeah. You know what my answer, you know what my answer is. If like, what if you found out that Katie cheated on Ayla Brown (59:13) Yeah. See, you love her so much. I love that you love your wife. Jonathan Wier (59:25) You know my answer is that it's always been what? not only forgive her, I'd be like, what did I do? What did I do to drive her to that? Yeah, that's genuinely because I know that woman. That is not something that would come naturally to her. And if she did it, she'd be like, I would be like, yep, I know that I must have been driving her insane. Yeah. Anyway, that's show, everybody. We'll be doing it again on Tuesday night. Ayla Brown (59:26) You'd forgive her. You would forgive her. Yeah. friends meet. Jonathan Wier (59:52) next week. So make sure you're here on the 21st. 21st. We'll be doing it at 8pm Eastern, 7pm Central. We also have a Patreon show that will go out on Thursday, sometime in the afternoon. So look forward to that. If you haven't signed up for a Patreon, just go to patreon.com slash Jonathan and Ayla and just give us a little bit of support. Every month you get a you just just for a couple of bucks a month. Ayla Brown (59:59) Razy. Jonathan Wier (1:00:22) I can't remember what the prices are. Just for a couple bucks a month, you get four shows and get to know that you're supporting two wonderful human beings. Yeah. Alright. Bye! Bye! there it goes. Ayla Brown (1:00:32) Love you. Jonathan Wier (1:00:34) Alright, hopefully that...