Jonathan Wier (00:08) Hey, welcome to the show everybody. It's me, Jonathan. Wier And Brown (00:13) And me, Ayla. Welcome to the show. Hi. I already know you are tired because you told me, you told me right before here. So I feel like we should do a wellness check on you over there. So how are you doing? And then I'm going to fill you in on some, on how I'm doing. Jonathan Wier (00:16) Amy Ayla, how are you doing? I'm exhausted. Uh, not great. I have, I was trying to raw dog insomnia last night. I was like, I don't need any sleep meds. I have willpower and I'll put my phone away. I won't watch TV. I'll just go to sleep. But here's what happened and said I Wier And Brown (00:40) It's not right that you're going with that. Jonathan Wier (00:56) made up an imaginary game in my head where I went over every conversation and every embarrassing moment from my life and replayed it in my head until four o'clock in the morning until I finally passed out from exhaustion. So I slept about two and a half hours and then went to work. At least work was dead because it's snowing really crazy bad here. but the bad part about that is I haven't, remember how last time I was like, I'm like doing great. I'm really good at sales. I haven't had a sale in a week since I said that. And well, the reason why is we don't have any customers. Nobody's coming in. Wier And Brown (01:27) Yes. No, you also said I don't want to jinx myself. I'm so sorry. Oh, that must be really crappy for you because yeah, and that hurts. That hurts your outcome, your output. And with those sales people. Jonathan Wier (01:40) It sucks! Yeah. Yeah, it does. And everyone's like, yeah, and everyone's like, Whoa, you really fell off this week. It's like, yeah, had two customers all week. Yeah, I fell off. Yeah. Wier And Brown (01:54) Dang, that's not good. And you're tired. It's just, it's not a good combo. And the weather, seasonal depression is a thing. How do I know? Because now that I've been back in New England for what, seven years, as opposed to being in beautiful Southern Nashville, Tennessee, every time around this year, I'm like, I think that's why they make February vacation in Massachusetts, because kids are on break right now. I get it. Like you need to get away. So, Jonathan Wier (01:57) and Wier And Brown (02:23) Next week, I'm going to Florida with the boys and the dog, and I have not booked a one-way back. How bad is that? I just, I'm like, I can't do this right now. I just can't do the weather. Jonathan Wier (02:30) Not bad at all. was just thinking about that how... last year, this time I was in Florida, enjoying the last vacation I'll probably ever have where we rented an Airbnb and just hung out there. And then went to Disney, but didn't, didn't go to Disney. We just went to the resorts. It was great. It was the best vacation ever. Wier And Brown (02:41) Mmm. that's right. Yes. Right. No, you may. We did a whole group therapy on it because you're like, am I the a-hole for doing this? I'm like, you are the most master mastermind that I've ever met. So basically, Jonathan, and correct me if I'm wrong, you would go make. This is common, by the way, Jonathan's not the only person who does this, but it's it's sneaky. Jonathan Wier (03:17) Yeah, my sister hit me. Yeah, glued me into this. Yeah. Wier And Brown (03:21) He goes online and makes reservations at restaurants because you get free parking when you go to the restaurants. And most of the parks have these incredible fireworks every single night. So he would make his reservation around the same time as the fireworks and then not actually go to the dinner reservation. Cause you don't really get penalized, but you have the free parking. You get to spend time as a family. Jonathan Wier (03:46) No, you can cancel it as soon as you get in. Wier And Brown (03:49) and you get to watch fireworks, are you kidding me? So I get it. Jonathan Wier (03:53) And you're still kind of dizzy world. You just don't get to go on any rides, but who cares? Like you're still pretty much there. Yeah. No, was great. I, I did that. And that was last year and the last vacation I think I'll ever have, but I will say this, and I'm just going to say one good thing going on in my life right now. Cause I hate just being a Debbie downer. Cause I have a great life. I don't, I don't want to sit here and act like I don't. and I. Wier And Brown (03:57) Right. Who cares? Yeah. Jonathan Wier (04:21) I figured out how to play rock band on my computer with the drums and now vocals. So Finn and I, that's pretty much all we do all day and all my free time is he plays drums. I play the rock band guitar and depending on the song, one of us is singing, but usually both of us are singing at the same time to what we're playing. Wier And Brown (04:28) love this. Okay. Of course, and you're at the soprano part and he's like at the base because he's an eight year old. So of course it would be the lower part harmony. Yeah. Yeah. Jonathan Wier (04:51) Yes. Yeah, yeah. He's down here. He's the one like that. And it's great. He's also decided we have a band now. Wier And Brown (05:02) praise. Jonathan Wier (05:04) You want to know what the name of her band is? monster teeth. Wier And Brown (05:14) I love that kid. He's so sweet. He's so sweet. Monster teeth. any day. I mean, wow. Jonathan Wier (05:17) That's the name of our band going on tour any day now, Monster Teeth. And today we were we were rocking out and he like stopped and I was like, what's the matter? He's like, I want to write a real song. I was like, OK, by the way, we wrote a real song together like six months ago or shortly after I was laid off. But I don't know where it's at now. I recorded it on my phone and I'm sure you've had this happen. I recorded on my phone and now I have no idea where it is. Wier And Brown (05:38) Bye. Jonathan Wier (05:47) And it was good. I was actually really proud of it. Like I thought it sounded really good. And like one day I was going to look forward to like sitting down with him and like, let's actually do something with this. yeah. Wier And Brown (05:51) Yeah! Yeah, right. It's probably on your work email that got deactivated literally the second we got fired. Like who does that? Like honestly, that's the thing that pissed me off the most of the whole thing. was like, dude, you won't even let me like get the contacts that I had built for six years. Like, are you kidding me? Anyways. Jonathan Wier (06:05) Every every every time I've Yeah, you've never seen that company be organized in anything except in the ability to shut us down completely. Yeah. Wier And Brown (06:22) it's a late. Yeah, yeah. But listen, I am switching gears. I am moving on and I have some extremely exciting news to announce. I have a new job officially and it started today. It started today with my first official Zoom meeting with the rest. Jonathan Wier (06:41) Hey! Really? So Dunkin' Donuts finally decided to hire you. We're all proud. Wier And Brown (06:54) Honestly, over the years that I've like said how much I love you. No, it's not Dunkin Donuts. Jonathan Wier (06:58) I wouldn't be shocked if you were working there. Wier And Brown (07:01) no, it'd be totally some mom and pop coffee shop, you know, it would not be Duncan right now, but let me just, should I give, should I give our, our, live audience right now on our podcast, the actual exclusive? Cause truthfully, I made an announcement on Sunday, just two days ago. Jonathan Wier (07:05) Right, not healthy enough. Wier And Brown (07:23) saying like, I officially signed the contract for this job, but I'm gonna be a little mom about it, but I will go ahead and tell you guys who are listening right now, and by the way, let us know if you are listening in the chat. I am the new video podcast host for something, it's a company called The Flyover, and it's a newsletter that goes out to right now 1.4 million subscribers every single morning, and it really is like, hard news. there's finance, sports, politics, science and technology. And it's already a written newsletter, but they were looking for someone to take that newsletter and do a video podcast for it. So you can listen to it every single morning. And I am just like really nervous, obviously very nervous to like get back into the work game, if that makes sense. Like I'm not nervous for the actual job because it's what we have collectively done for so many years. So it's not like, it's not the job, it's just like the commitment, right? And I'm gonna have to record at night when the kids go down and write my video script and it's gonna be a lot of work. But once I get the hang of it, it's gonna be great. But let me tell you, there are two hosts for this. Jonathan Wier (08:23) You're going to be great at it. Yeah. Yeah, I know. You know, you know, you're going to be good at that. It's just. Yeah. Wier And Brown (08:48) I've never felt so inadequate before on this Zoom call with this other host that they have. So here's how it's going to work. I'm going to be doing Monday through Friday newsletters. So five times a week, I'm going to be recording. And this other podcast host, she's going to be doing three different ones. She's going to do like a Friday feel good. And then the weekend edition. When we had our Zoom call today, she had eight. Emmy Awards behind her on her desk. Jonathan Wier (09:20) What? Wier And Brown (09:21) I was like, I was like, should I go get my free throw competition trophy? Like I literally am not, you know what I mean? And I just feel so honored that a couple of weeks ago when the company asked her, like, do you want it? Like if you could choose, would you rather do the weekend or would you rather do the weekday? And Jonathan, you know me, like I have shows on the weekends. So Jonathan Wier (09:22) Local Emmys, local, local Emmys though, right? mean... Yeah, you can't do that. Wier And Brown (09:49) It's easier for me to record on the weekdays. So I said, I'll do the weekdays. I feel like she should get the weekdays. I mean, I don't want to like dig myself a hole, but honestly, was like kind of a, it was a heavy flex. Jonathan Wier (10:00) mean, they're local Emmys. they even for... Are they for New England? Are they for like Wichita? Come on. Wier And Brown (10:10) Okay. What is, I'm not going to tell you where she's from, but she, no, no, no. She's super nice. And we are now a new little, pod another podcast team. So my days are going to be very busy working with you working on the flyover podcast. So if anyone is listening right now and you want to get a jump on kind of like learning about the company, if you just go to join the flyover.com. Jonathan Wier (10:14) That's right. Yeah, it's not. Yeah, we're happy. Wier And Brown (10:39) you can subscribe to their newsletter and you'll just get like news in your inbox every single day in a really cool list form. And yeah, I would love to know what you guys think. And thank you to everyone who's saying congratulations on the job. I start officially like on video, I think in April, but like the entire month of March and February are going to be like test episodes and giving them to, like, what do call it? Jonathan Wier (11:04) 30. So they're going to put more effort into getting you ready for this than they did in radio for us doing a four hour show every day where they literally had us talk to each other in the room for 10 minutes. And then we're like, all right, you're hired now. Just figure out how to do a show every day. Yeah. Cool. Really? Wier And Brown (11:15) absolutely. Like they want. That's it, I know. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they're talking set design and stuff. So like, I'm going to have to completely redo this room for like a newscast. Like it's going to be legit with they're getting all the equipment from cameras, teleprompters, lighting. Like it's going to be kind of cool. I think, I mean, I'm like blown away by it, but they're also having, you know, like when we did radio, had Jonathan Wier (11:35) Wow. Wier And Brown (11:54) What was it called? Like an audience or, auditorium test. I don't, I don't know if it's the same thing with this, but there'll be people that like critique us before we even go live on air too. So there's, it's a lot of preparation for this role and, I'm going to have no nights free anymore. So this is going to be my new life, but. Jonathan Wier (11:59) Yeah, dial testing, but yeah. that's going to be difficult. We'll Wier And Brown (12:21) I don't know how Jonathan Wier (12:21) figure it out. Wier And Brown (12:21) much sleep I'm going to be getting. So you were talking about sleep. It's like, I'm going to be spending the entire day with the kids. And then after I feed them and put them down, I'm going to have to go outside here, write an entire 15 minute video script, take all the news stories of the day, package it into like the teleprompter and do a 15 minute podcast. Like I know that doesn't sound like a lot, but 15 straight minutes of Jonathan Wier (12:24) Yeah. Wier And Brown (12:49) Talking is a lot of work, so. Jonathan Wier (12:51) Well, 15 minutes of talking is fine. It's 15 minutes of scripted talk. That's where it becomes a pain in the a, but I, first of all, I'm very proud of you and very happy for you. doing this because it seems like, first of all, a scary thing because it's so different kind of comparatively, but new, but also I think that this has more. Wier And Brown (12:56) Right. Thank you. Yes! Jonathan Wier (13:19) lasting potential than most radio jobs that you would be putting in for at this point. Like this isn't a dying industry, podcasting is growing and this kind of thing is getting bigger all the time. Wier And Brown (13:28) Yeah. And I will say that like there are no radio jobs. You know what I mean? Like, so this is, like you said, podcasting is so new and it is growing and this specific newsletter called Join the Flyover has only been around for less than two years and they already have 1.4 million subscribers. So I'm thinking if everyone listening right now subscribes, they'll have 1.40 Jonathan Wier (13:35) Yeah. Wow. Wier And Brown (13:57) one subscribe. I'm just kidding. don't know how many people are watching right now, but, yeah, no, I'm so excited. Yeah. It's going to be great. Jonathan Wier (14:03) That's still amazing. 1.4 million. Jeez, I had no idea. You brought up something that I've been thinking about a lot is the backdrop behind me. I want something cool going on back there. So I got a TV. thought I could put, I thought maybe I could put some weird crap on there while we're talking, like alien autopsy or something like that on there. Yeah, yeah. Or I could have a bunch of plaques from all the jobs I've been fired from. Wier And Brown (14:25) Yeah, sure. That makes sense for our show. Yeah. Jonathan Wier (14:32) Like, I'm pretty sure that could fill the wall up behind us. Yeah. That's the problem. I know I have to work around this noggin. The nuclear noggin. my god, I leaned back in a chair today at work and hit my head on something. I didn't even bother to look at what I was like, you stupid giant head. Like God hate you so much. Why? Wier And Brown (14:38) Oh my god, that's so sad. I mean, your big ass head though covers the TV mostly, so what's the point? I know. I know. Jonathan Wier (15:02) Why am I an orange on a toothpick? Why? Wier And Brown (15:07) But we love your big head. We do. You're welcome. And I think I'm blurry again today. I just don't know what to say anymore. I don't know why I'm so clear. God. So I apologize once again, I gotta definitely get this figured out before I start any podcast with someone else too. Jonathan Wier (15:11) Thank you. You're a little blurry. You're okay. All right, ready to start the show? All right, let's talk about some stuff. By the way, I'm stretching it. I wasn't, I don't know what that was. I was just, I'm tired. All right, here we go. We'll start with group therapy. This is from Bethany who says, I need you to talk me off the ledge or tell me that I'm a genius. Either way, I need validation. So I'll just preface this by saying Bethany's problem involves Wier And Brown (15:29) Yes. Jonathan Wier (15:57) Valentine's Day gift that she considers cheap and tawdry and she wants to exchange it for something that's going to piss her husband off. Here's what she says, for years, my husband has been buying me the worst gifts from Facebook ads. No matter how many times I tell him, please just go to a national store. For the love of all things holy, he cannot resist the siren song of sketchy online deals. Every holiday without fail, he hands me some overpriced junk with a guilty look and says, I know you'll probably never wear this. Well, this year he outdid himself. For Valentine's Day, he spent $300, yeah, $300 on some cheap, flimsy bracelet that looks like it came from the depths of an airport gift shop. And we aren't broke. He could have walked into a real jeweler and picked out something beautiful, but no. He saw an ad, clicked on it, and here we are. And here's where it gets interesting. I found out that I can return it. At first I thought, okay, maybe I should just quietly send it back so he gets the money back, but then it hit me. Why should he get his money back when I have suffered through years of bad gifts? So I've decided I am gonna return it. And I am using the money to finally get what I've been wanting for years. A dog. Yeah, he spent $300 on something I don't want, so now I'm spending $300 on something he definitely doesn't want. That's the circle of life. I already found the sweetest little rescue pup who needs a home. I'm picturing the moment he sees me holding her seat for his return bracelet, looks confused, and then bam, I walk in with a dog. Now, am I the worst wife ever or am I simply restoring balance to the universe? Cannot wait to hear your thoughts. Wier And Brown (17:45) wow. God, I can't wait to hear the chat, the group chat on this. Jonathan Wier (17:58) Yeah. All right. So just in summation, everybody, Bethany's problem is her husband spent $300 on some cheap plastic jewelry on Facebook, which he got ripped off of anything on there was $300, but he spent $300 on some cheap crappy jewelry on Facebook. Gave it to her, said to her when he was giving her, probably won't ever wear this anyway. And so she's returning it and she's going to use the $300 that he spent on that. to buy herself a dog. Yes or no. Is this okay? Is this okay? It's a cheap gift that she's going to turn into years and years of unconditional love from a puppy. What do you think? I will just start off with my thoughts on this. I don't like you Bethany. I don't like this at all. And I'll tell you the reason why. If you want to buy a dog because you want a dog, that's fine. If you want to buy a dog, Wier And Brown (18:47) Please do. Yeah. Jonathan Wier (18:58) because you saw the ad for the dog and you went, my God, my ovaries just jumped out and grabbed it. I needed to get that dog. That's fine too. But if you're buying a dog, yeah, I don't know why. Sure. But if you're buying a dog because you want revenge on your husband for getting you a bad Valentine's Day gift, then you're insane. Wier And Brown (19:07) Did you say my ovaries jumped out and grabbed it? Did you just say that? Okay, sure. Jonathan Wier (19:25) You're that's that's a terrible reason to buy a dog and it's I am a big believer in things like this in the metaphor fruit from a poison tree meaning if the Intent behind something is bad then anything good that might come out of it is also going to be bad No matter how much you love that dog Wier And Brown (19:43) Yep. Right. Like that dog is totally going to have cancer like by the age of four. Jonathan Wier (19:50) I don't mean karmically, but yeah, I mean, I don't think your husband's ever gonna like the dog. I think he's gonna resent you for it. And I don't think it's gonna be a good match for your family because the only reason you're buying it is to teach your husband a lesson. Wier And Brown (20:01) Right, right. I'm trying to disagree with you just because I don't like you sometimes. But I totally agree when it comes to the morality of it. I just find that the older I get, the whole eye for an eye thing, it gets exhausting. People are trying to always one up each other. Like, well, he did this to me, so I'm going to slash his tires. Jonathan Wier (20:09) That's our dynamic, Yeah. Yeah Wier And Brown (20:30) my God. Okay. Well, all he did was get you the wrong cheese at the grocery store. We're going that far. but I will say that I, I'll play devil's advocate for a second because he should, I don't know how long they've been married. It did not say. And I think that that is important. There is a couple of things that I gathered from her message to us. The first is that he doesn't go to stores to get gifts, right? It sounds like He just buys it online because... Jonathan Wier (21:02) I guess like Facebook is the new QVC or whatever. It's like, it's just right there. So I reach out and get it. Wier And Brown (21:05) Yeah, it almost seemed like a Facebook ad, like Instagram ad. And I will say some of the stuff that you get sold on advertisements, some of them really are crappy. Some of them are great. I'll give you an example. This sweater that I'm wearing right now says mama right here. And on the sleeve says Barrett and Brock. My husband for Christmas totally got suckered into one of these ads that Jonathan Wier (21:26) that's sweet. Wier And Brown (21:32) Bethany is talking about where he was like, well, that looks cool. He didn't know if it was going to be good quality. To be honest, it's not the greatest quality, but the sentiment is awesome. totally came from totally came from China. It took like, it never came on Christmas. came like midway through January. but the thought was there. I just wonder maybe, and I'm putting a couple of pieces together, Bethany's husband. wants to try and be sentimental, but maybe he's missing the mark a little bit. Like maybe what he thinks is beautiful might not be what she thinks is beautiful. Jonathan Wier (22:09) think he should be off the hook for giving bad presents. He doesn't care. Like he's, she has told him, stop getting me this cheap, flimsy crap that you find on Facebook. And he keeps doing it anyway, thinking this time it's going to be different. I'm not letting him off the hook for getting a bad present. I'm just saying buy yourself anything else except for a dog. Like that's just a, it just seems like a terrible way to introduce that into the family and to, know what I mean? Wier And Brown (22:34) Yeah! Jonathan Wier (22:35) Like a revenge Wier And Brown (22:35) No, I- I- Jonathan Wier (22:36) dog. He's never gonna like when when we got Gordon, I've told this story a million times, but when we got our dog over 10 years ago now. no, let me think. Not exactly nine years ago. At the end of January in 2016. I went to the shelter with Henry. I told Katie we were going to the shelter just to look at dogs. I was like, we're just gonna look. I don't, I'm not planning anything. And she said, okay, just don't get anything. And I, Henry started playing with Gordon and I wasn't even thinking. And the next thing I know, I'm signing the adoption papers, right? And I came home, I stopped myself before I paid for anything. I came home and I told her and she flipped out on me, understandably, because I was getting a dog and I never, I told her I wouldn't. Wier And Brown (23:15) Yep, yep, yep, yep. Yes. Jonathan Wier (23:31) But and she also was like, now I'm going to look like the bad guy. Because I can't say no, because you told Henry that we're getting this dog. And it's like, I know I really screwed up. I'm sorry. But eventually she went along with it, got the dog and everything. That's if that's not the best way to go about getting a dog. But at least the intent was decent. The intent was I right, I just want I just want my son to be happy. And I got caught up in the moment. Wier And Brown (23:34) Right. Yours is, yours is better than mine. Jonathan Wier (24:00) Hers is, no, I'm gonna buy a dog to teach him a lesson. That's messed up. Yeah. Wier And Brown (24:02) Out of revenge, right, exactly. I'll just tell my great story real quick. Same thing, I walked into a pet store at a mall up in upstate New York and I didn't even tell Rob I was doing that because I don't even like dogs. I'm not even gonna lie, I don't. I don't know why this happened to me, but that little fluff ball, well, right, I got a marshmallow. That marshmallow looked at me and my heart melted and I was like, what is this feeling? Jonathan Wier (24:22) Well, you didn't get a dog. there's that. Yeah. teeth. Wier And Brown (24:32) So I ended up buying the dog knowing that my boyfriend at the time, Rob, would have totally said no. And I didn't care what he thought because I had this connection with this dog. When I look back now, I could and would never do that because that's not a true partnership. And I think at the end of the day, this is what we're talking about here is like, how deep is your partnership when it comes to communication? She's trying to tell him that she doesn't want crappy jewelry or gifts on Facebook. He's not listening. It's partially like you said, his fault. He's not listening to what she's saying. Either he doesn't care. He doesn't know what's good or bad or a screw's loose. I don't know, maybe he's stupid. And then she on the other hand is saying, well, because he doesn't do what I say, I'm gonna do what I want. And like that is just the beginning of like a long. thing of her just making those decisions of, I don't care that we have plans. I'm going to go get a massage or my nails done or whatever, because he stayed at the gym later and I don't care. So I'm doing what I want to do. It's just toxic. Okay. Jonathan Wier (25:44) yeah, if she wants to get revenge on him, she's just like, that go? Yeah, like you said, go get a massage and then send him pictures of the dude who's going to give her the massage. I'm going to Ronaldo today, Bill. Ronaldo! Do you understand the thick, caramel charisma that just oozes off of Ronaldo? Wier And Brown (25:56) Raphael, Please don't talk like that because I'm kind of imagining Ricky Martin right now and you know how I feel about Ricky. It gets me hot. God. my. Jonathan Wier (26:16) Yes, you are. And you know what? He is. He's like a young Ricky Martin, a young straight Ricky Martin. And he'll tell you that first thing, by the way, just because Ronaldo looks exactly like Ricky Martin doesn't mean he swings that way. Ronaldo's all about the ladies. Wier And Brown (26:33) Yes, gosh dang, if there was only. But you know what, think part of the appeal is that he's unavailable. You know that. That's why I love Ricky, is because I think I can change him. Jonathan Wier (26:40) Mm. Kelly said, bad boy, John, that did you spend at least one day in the doghouse for getting the dog? No, but to this day is the biggest fight that Katie and I have ever had. Which is, I think, a testament to how good our marriage is. Because we've had like little blow ups, I guess, here and there, but that was the longest, like most sustained fight because I... Wier And Brown (27:03) Well, I have a question about that. Jonathan Wier (27:12) I, it was difficult for her too, because usually this is our fight. She'll be like, you did something stupid. I go, I know, I'm sorry. And that's it. I know, I'm sorry. But this was, you did something stupid. I went, I know, I'm sorry, but I can't change it. Like usually it's you did something dumb and I'll go, yes, I'll fix that. I'm sorry. But this was you did something dumb. And I went, I know, but I'm not backing down. We have to get the dog. Wier And Brown (27:32) Yeah. So you mentioned something earlier in the conversation about there would be resentment toward possibly the dog. In your situation with Katie, do you think that she was a little resentful toward Gordon just because? so she, So how could she stay mad at you when there was clearly, Jonathan Wier (27:59) No, no, she loves him. No, was immediate. Immediately she fell in love with him. She wasn't. She wasn't mad at me. I'm saying in like the 10 minutes that we were fighting, it's the longest we fought. Wier And Brown (28:14) I'm sorry, you only fight for 10 minutes? Jonathan Wier (28:17) I think that's like a record for us. Wier And Brown (28:21) I hate you. Jonathan Wier (28:22) No, right. My life is so great. I'm also very good at deescalating. I'm always very good at being like, I, is this worth this? No, then I don't care. Just go ahead and be mad or like you're mad. Okay. Wier And Brown (28:38) Yeah, be mad for 20 seconds. I'm sorry, babe. It was 30 seconds this time. Like what? You are lucky. Lucky. Jonathan Wier (28:43) Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think the thing is too, is I there's nothing I care more about than my wife liking me. So if she was like, I need you to eat poop now be like, okay, I guess I got to do that. That's, that's fine. I'm totally whipped. And I'm totally fine with that. Better than the alternative. All right. Let's move on. You you said instead of the mud today, you want to play a game. Wier And Brown (29:11) Yeah, kind of if you're okay with that because I was, I always try and find like things that take way up way too much time in my day. And I was scrolling on Facebook and there was a video from when Beyonce performed at that Christmas halftime show. Do you remember that? Okay, and she did like a lot of her, her Jonathan Wier (29:14) Of course what. Yeah, the Pittsburgh, was it? No, it wasn't the Chief Steelers. It was the Ravens and whoever they were playing. Wier And Brown (29:40) Dallas, right? Because it was in Texas or Houston. Yeah. And there was this whole video thing with her daughter and she was like literally right next to Beyonce a lot of the show and most shows that Beyonce does like actually dancing like choreography and she was really great. And it's kind of weird to see Blue Ivy as a teenager now because I feel like we were all laughing about her name just yesterday. Jonathan Wier (29:42) Something like that. Maybe. Yeah. Wier And Brown (30:08) and now she's a teen and has Jonathan Wier (30:09) Yeah. Wier And Brown (30:10) her own thoughts, feelings, emotions and bank account. Okay. So while we're going to play a game called richest celebrity kids, and I'm going to give you, yes, it got me thinking about already very wealthy celebrities. Like how much are their kids worth? Because just cause you have a kid doesn't mean they're necessarily worth as much as you. Well, not in this case. So I would like for you to Jonathan Wier (30:20) oooo Wier And Brown (30:37) play along. I'm going to give you two different people, two different kids names. You have to tell me which one you think is worth more money. If you get it wrong, there will be a punishment for this round. Are you ready to play? Okay. We were just talking about Blue Ivy. Blue Ivy Carter's the first versus Princess Charlotte. Jonathan Wier (30:55) Okay. Yeah. Hit me. Yep. Wier And Brown (31:06) Who do you think makes more money? And that would be the daughter of Princess Kate and William. Jonathan Wier (31:11) okay. See, I, he said celebrities. I just assumed it was people that were, you know, contributed some kind of thing of value to the planet. The princess Charlotte or blue Ivy. Wier And Brown (31:22) Dang. OK. Yes, Princess Charlotte or Blue Ivy Carter. Who do you think has more money? Jonathan Wier (31:31) Well, I know like Jay-Z and Beyonce are billionaires. Wier And Brown (31:35) Yes. Jonathan Wier (31:37) But I would assume the royal family still has more money than them? Wier And Brown (31:42) Okay. And we're not talking about the royal family. We're talking about the child. Yes. I will tell you once you guess. Jonathan Wier (31:45) We're talking about do those kids have more? So how do these kids have any money? Like you're saying like independent? UGH I'm s- I guess it's not interesting if I say Princess Charlotte, because that's the obvious guess. So I'm gonna go with Blue Ivy. Blue Ivy has more money than Princess Charlotte. I'm changing my answer. Wier And Brown (32:10) Interesting. Well, let me tell you, Blue Ivy Carter is worth $800 million. Exactly. So do you want to change your guess? Do you think that, okay, Blue Ivy has already won a Grammy. She's appeared on song. She has a massive trust fund from Beyonce and Jay-Z, but they have also, but she has also been put to work. Like I said, she's out there like, Jonathan Wier (32:17) WHY?! For what?! Shows you how much she's worth and how worthless a Grammy is. Yeah Wier And Brown (32:38) performing on stage with her mother. like, she's working for it, I guess, but $800 million. Do you want to switch your answer? Yes or no. Okay. Jonathan Wier (32:48) No, I'm sick with Blue Ivy. So is Donna. I'm sorry, so is Melissa. Everyone else is saying Princess Charlotte. Wier And Brown (32:52) So as Melissa, I'm glad the chat is playing along. Well, Princess Charlotte of Wales is worth an estimated, and I fact checked this on multiple websites, $5 billion with a B. And you want to know what the main reason is, is because every time, this is so stupid. Jonathan Wier (33:09) well, come on. Wier And Brown (33:19) And I can't understand how this would be possible, but she shifts economic trends within Britain as a whole, like within England. So for example, when Princess Charlotte wears a specific dress or shoes or headbands, they sell out instantly. And apparently because of this and her royal inheritance and the economic impact of the British royal family, she's worth five billion. I don't understand. I really don't like. for clothes, pretty much, and she's like eight years old. Jonathan Wier (33:53) You know, I'm glad that Britain still has a royal family for the singular reason that every once in a while you can be like as an American, be kind of like, I wonder if other countries are better than us. But we know we're better than them because they worship people whose sole contribution to the planet is existing. That's all they do. They don't perform. They don't, they don't, I don't know, they cut ribbons, I guess. God, there's so many ribbons that would go uncut in England if it weren't for the royal freaking family. They own a bunch of land and they exist. It's all they do to contribute to society and the world and the betterment of man. It's all they do. we're and and Britain's can't get enough of them. Wier And Brown (34:26) Uh-huh. I guess. Yes. And what we worship them? Yeah, because apparently they're royalty. What, but we love this in America where we don't have to like actually care, but we still are fascinated by it because we left it. You know what I mean? so your punishment, Jonathan is that you have to sing country girl, shake it for me in baby voice. Jonathan Wier (35:00) Can I sing like a bird? I genuinely don't know how that song goes anymore. Hold on. Wier And Brown (35:11) my God. It's literally. Jonathan Wier (35:15) What you do is shaky for me, girl. Shaky for me, Shaky for me. There? The... it for the moon in the swirly squirrels! Check it for the... guy in the trees with the binoculars! Check it for the... moon! Check it for the girl! Moon! Yeah. That's Luke Bryan as a baby, everybody. Luke Bryan... as a baby. As a baby. Nailed it. Wier And Brown (35:27) You you I'm dead. No, actually goes. Brian has a baby. my gosh. All right. Let's, let's do one more just for fun. Northwest, which is the daughter of Kim Kardashian and Kanye West versus Suri Cruz. And that is the daughter of Tom and, Jonathan Wier (36:07) Which one has more money? Wier And Brown (36:07) Kate, what's her, wait, what's her name? Kate, why did I do this? Kate, why did I say that? Hold on. Jonathan Wier (36:11) why did you would do this? Wier And Brown (36:23) You suck. Thank you! God, from Dawson's Creed, yes. Jonathan Wier (36:28) Katie Holmes, Katie Holmes, in Lawson's Creek. right, Suri Cruz, Tom Cruise's daughter. Does she still go by Suri Cruz or does she go by Suri Holmes? Wier And Brown (36:42) I didn't know. I I actually read that too, because didn't she just turn 18 and she finally decided that she like, yeah, you might be right. She might be Suri Holmes. Jonathan Wier (36:42) I thought she was a strange woman or dad. Yeah. You know what? Getting older is being like, my God, that person's already a teenager. That person's already 18. Getting really old is going, yeah, but that doesn't mean anything. That's still really young. That might as well be a baby. That's how I started to feel about like people in their late teens. Now I'm just like, yes, so what? I've got a teenager. Yeah, that's not that big a deal. Suri Holmes-Cruz or Kanye's daughter? Wier And Brown (37:07) We know. No. Jonathan Wier (37:21) Does that include like, yeah, does that include like all the Nazi gold that Kanye's probably hoarding now that he got from some Swedish bank? Wier And Brown (37:22) Kanye and Kim Kays. Honestly, no freaking clue, but I will say that Northwest has made once again appearances in movies. She's done voiceovers. She, I think has had like a couple rap songs out with her dad. no, of course, just like the whole Kardashian family. I mean, hello. And then Suri Cruz, all I'm gonna say is in my digging a little bit, it seems as though her wealth Jonathan Wier (37:42) earned it all I'm sure, earned it all, not, not at all. Yeah, Wier And Brown (37:57) comes from her father's fortune, even though she's lived a pretty private life. So I guess one of them has kind of quote worked for it and the other has not as much. Jonathan Wier (38:11) think you're slick. Don't And you're like, I'll throw them off the trail. I'll say one of them hasn't really done much. The other one's done a bunch, which one is worth more money. Surrey Cruz or Kanye's daughter, a Kanye and Kim's daughter. I'm based on that going to say Surrey Cruz is somehow worth more because Tom Cruise Wier And Brown (38:19) Yep. Yeah, that's Because of Tom Cruise. I mean, Tom Cruise is a legend. Jonathan Wier (38:37) But I don't think Tom Cruise is worth more than Kanye or Kim Kardashian. Wier And Brown (38:41) So here's the answer. And once again, you're wrong, but Northwest is worth $375 million, all earned, of course. And then Suri Cruz is worth 250 million. So she's still worth a lot of money. And if you're just tuning in, I'm testing Jonathan on celebrities children are worth exactly. So I'm so sorry. Jonathan Wier (38:43) Mm-hmm. Which celebrity children are worth the most money? On the black market. Yeah. If you want to sell them, you want to buy them. Wier And Brown (39:11) Sure, but Jonathan, you have to be punished again, which I know you secretly love. So this time, please give me and the rest of the audience a dramatic reading of a lullaby, like it's an Oscar worthy monologue. And the lullaby can be of your choosing. Jonathan Wier (39:28) A lullaby? What's a lullaby? You mean like a well-known one? Okay. Is there a... Can I fix this? Wier And Brown (39:35) Yeah. Jonathan Wier (39:44) Is this working? It is? Okay. Wier And Brown (39:45) Yes. Jonathan Wier (39:55) sea spider went up the water's Down came the rain. And washed the spider out. Wier And Brown (40:06) If you're just listening to this podcast on like podcast apps, Jonathan is giving it so much with his face right now. He is like looking out into the distance. He's trying to find the emotion right now. He's shaking the pen in his hand. Keep going, Jonathan. Jonathan Wier (40:27) became the sun. Drying up all the rain! and the itsy bitsy spider. Wier And Brown (40:43) Now he's crying. Jonathan Wier (40:54) Wet up the spout again. Wier And Brown (40:58) Ladies and gentlemen, give him an Emmy, a Grammy, an Oscar, all of it, a CMA, give it to him, give them all. Jonathan Wier (40:59) Hero Spider! Wier And Brown (41:11) my gosh, Melissa said David Allen Boucher vibes. I totally agree with that. Do you know who that is? Okay, legendary magic 106.7, late at night, like bedtime vibes. David Allen Boucher had this nighttime show where he literally talked like you just did and introduced the songs and told stories and gave shout outs to listeners, almost like the Delilah show. Jonathan Wier (41:16) Yeah. I do not actually. Wier And Brown (41:40) but you know what I mean? Like he would almost solve the world's sleeping problems. It was so great. And I listened to him all growing up, but I have a confession to make. I met him once in person, you guys. Don't meet your heroes. Don't meet your heroes. I was. Jonathan Wier (41:42) You're listening to... Oh my god. Don't... Ah, that's terrible to hear. Unless it's us, because we're actually great. We're wonderful. Unless it's us, because we're actually really nice. Yep. Wier And Brown (42:04) What? Well, right, we're awesome. But it was just, asked him, I sat next to him at some sort of dinner, I think, and this was so many years ago. And no one ever knows what, and I get this now, now that we've been on radio, you never know what people actually look like until you meet them in person. And it really is this like surreal moment because you hear them speaking and you can almost close your eyes and you're like, damn, that's him. You know, and you feel this instant connection to the voice that you've been listening to for so long. And I was just in shock. I was, I asked him for a photo and he said he doesn't do photos because I, because he didn't want anyone to know what he like really looked like, I guess. At least that's what he told me. But I was like, Jonathan Wier (42:51) We're like David Allen Duche. Was he? Wier And Brown (43:03) I was a kid, I was a teenager at the time. didn't understand what that meant. Like you don't want to do a photo. Jonathan Wier (43:08) Oh, you know what? this is the thing too. I'll do photos with anybody. And especially when I first started off the most awkward photos, like when people would come up from a remote or something like that and want to do photos with me. Every single photo of me with a young woman is me with my hand like this. Like, this is her. This is where she ends. Okay. And my hand is like out as far as possible. Like Wier And Brown (43:32) Yep. Yeah. It's go go gadget hands. Jonathan Wier (43:37) Yeah, just way out there. Like, it's just... Anyway. You're listening to Distant Thunder with Jonathan. Wier And Brown (43:43) Ugh. Jonathan Wier (43:52) Tonight we've got a special pairing. Songs from... Billy Bob Thornton's band, The Baseball Strikes. and Bruce Willis' hit song, I'm Not Bald, I'm Just Short. I don't know what I hear that man. Alright, Thank you. Wier And Brown (44:18) Good job, Jonathan. I miss you. I miss you and that stupid soundboard you have because you did magic with that on the station. You really did, Jonathan Wier (44:23) I know you hated it so much. I'm good. All right. So here I'm to put you on the spot now, Ayla. So Americans were asked what are the most common words that they misspell? Okay. First of all, do you have a word that comes to mind? And if not, it's no big deal. But do you have a word that comes to mind that immediately go, I'd have I don't I never know how to spell it. Like I have to sound it out or I have to look it up because number one on this list is number one for me. Wier And Brown (45:06) Calendar Jonathan Wier (45:10) calendar? Wier And Brown (45:10) I never know if it's ER or AR or I always have to just like spell it out and then see if it's wrong. Like when the red squiggly lines come underneath it. Jonathan Wier (45:22) So he that's that's actually funny, because I used to be a literally regionally recognized speller. I won spelling contests at my school, and then was in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch regionals and all that stuff. And now I can't spell anything. Like I'm terrible. Because we use phones, it's ruined me. My big one is maintenance. Maintenance. Yeah, because it's maintain. Wier And Brown (45:25) Stupid. Because we use phones, that's why. Yeah. Maintenance. Jonathan Wier (45:51) You think it's maintenance, but it's maintenance and there's no like trick to remembering it properly. And that's the number one for most people. So I'm going to ask you, how do you spell maintenance? Wier And Brown (45:53) yeah, yeah. MAINTENANCE. Jonathan Wier (46:08) Wow! Alright! Good job. Number two is another one I have. Wier And Brown (46:12) Thanks. Ooh, I like this game. Hold on. See? Okay. Tell me them and see if I can spell it. okay. Jonathan Wier (46:19) That's what the game is. two is another one that I have problem spelling, and it is a medical condition known as diarrhea. Die. Wier And Brown (46:33) D-I-A-H. D-I-A-H-E-R-R-I-A. Jonathan Wier (46:41) No, no, way off, way off. Terrible. God awful. Just you made a mess. It's D-I-A-R-R-H-E-A. Again, all these, the problem is there's no trick to remembering this. Yeah, it's DIA, that's easy. I, what? Wier And Brown (46:46) DIA, D-I-A. Yeah, that one is hard. No, you're right. Well, what's the root? What's the root of this? No, you know how in the spelling contest they always say, can I have the root? Can you use it in a sentence? It's like, oh my God. Jonathan Wier (47:09) yeah, what's the root? And he used it in a sentence. D-I-A-R-R-H-E-A. Another one that I have problems with is marijuana, but that's less about spelling and more about my point of view. The next one is a word that nobody spells because nobody uses this commonly, so I'm not gonna ask you to spell it, but it's a boutonniere. Wier And Brown (47:38) No, I want to I want to try just for fun. Boot and air. Jonathan Wier (47:42) You want to try it? Because it's got like French accents in it. So you can try it though. Yeah. Wier And Brown (47:45) it does. Okay. Boots and now be. Jonathan Wier (47:49) Buts in air. Got that one right. Yay! Everybody! Wier And Brown (47:56) Yeah, I'm really going B U I. What is it? Jonathan Wier (47:58) Killing it. Yep. Nope. Already wrong. It's B-O-U-T-O-N-N-I-E with E has the accent R-E. All right. I'm going to ask. Let's see. I'm going to go down to a one that's easy. Okay. That's at the bottom of the list. Wier And Brown (48:14) Okay. Jonathan Wier (48:25) Well, I'm Wier And Brown (48:26) Okay. Jonathan Wier (48:26) not that I don't want to challenge you, but I just want to see if the because I look like I said, I was a regional speller. It's amazing at it. And I lost the spelling competition on the word yield. Wier And Brown (48:29) No, I like this. Y-I-E-L-D. Jonathan Wier (48:41) yeah, that's how you do it. For some reason, my brain short circuited, I panicked, and for some reason thought I before E except F for C. But there's some rule about why. So I why E I don't know. But as soon as you get the words out, it's literally and it was funny because my mom was sitting there and as soon as I said why E she went, and my dad was sitting there went what? No. Wier And Brown (48:49) Yeah. there is? Dang. Yeah. He had no idea. Not a spelling champion. Jonathan Wier (49:10) Why everyone else was so upset? all right, refrigerator. Wier And Brown (49:19) R-E-F-R-I-D-G-E-R-A-T-O-R. Jonathan Wier (49:24) We do that again. Wier And Brown (49:26) R-E-F-R-I-D-G-E-R-A-T-O-R. Jonathan Wier (49:29) There's no D, there's no D, there's no D. Most people get it wrong because there's no D in refrigerator. There's a D in fridge, but not refrigerator. confusing. Wier And Brown (49:44) I learned something today. Thank you for that. Jonathan Wier (49:46) Here's what I never get right. Never, ever, ever, never. Rhythm. Wier And Brown (49:52) R-H-Y-T-H-M. Jonathan Wier (49:55) I hate you. How did you get refrigerator wrong, but you get rhythm without even thinking about it? Wier And Brown (49:58) Yeah, because someone's got it. You know what I mean? Jonathan Wier (50:02) Because you got it either you got it or you know, Yeah. Let's say I'll give you one more hemorrhoids. Wier And Brown (50:04) You either got it or you don't. I used to have it. H-E-M-M-E-R-O-I-D-S. Jonathan Wier (50:19) Nope, H-M-H-E-M, only one O-R-R-H-O-I-D-S. Wier And Brown (50:28) Ugh, come on, this game sucks. Jonathan Wier (50:30) Game is brought to you by PeproBizMall and PreparationH. Wier And Brown (50:35) And rhythm. Who do you think has the best rhythm by the way? The song with the best rhythm. Yeah. Like the song with where you're like, damn, listen to that rhythm. You just do two step like. Jonathan Wier (50:36) For when you're just taking time. Of anybody ever? I don't I'm white, like a waltz. I don't know. I don't dance to anything. I like my favorite songs to drum are any song that has like a really good snare build up going into the chords like and then like those are always fun. All right. Last one. And then we're done for the day is we're not doing the spelling thing anymore. The average person. Wier And Brown (51:05) nice. Jonathan Wier (51:20) And I'm going to ask you this question, even though you're not average at all. The average person has how many photos on their phone, Aila? How many pictures without looking do you have on your phone? Wier And Brown (51:34) I would say 16,000. Jonathan Wier (51:37) It sounds about right for you. The average person has 1,598. So let's just round it up. Has 1,600 photos on their phone. The average person is, as we've established many, many times on this show, as well as others, a freaking liar. There's no way. It depends on have you switched carriers or switched types of phones. If you've had an iPhone for 10 years, you've accumulated with the iCloud, you have way more photos than that. Wier And Brown (51:56) Yeah. A ton. Yeah. Jonathan Wier (52:07) I have 15,000, Wier And Brown (52:08) Yeah, let me see. And then I'll. Jonathan Wier (52:11) 100 and I'm sorry, 15,316 photos on my phone. Wier And Brown (52:12) What? Jonathan Wier (52:20) Yeah. How many do you have? Wier And Brown (52:25) 16,489 and I just deleted like a hundred of them today and I thought I was making progress. Jonathan Wier (52:26) I can't believe it's that close. Do you know why I have so many though? Wier And Brown (52:33) Honestly, I'm assuming it's actually I totally know your damn son, your son takes selfies of himself and it connects to your iCloud account. Jonathan Wier (52:39) Why? Yes, that is exactly it. It's not me taking the photos. It's Finn using the iPad that has my iCloud account. there's so I have a million pictures of this. Wier And Brown (52:50) I love this. That's sweet soul. Jonathan Wier (52:59) that because he just shoves the camera in his face. Yeah. He just lost a tooth by the way. Wier And Brown (52:59) Why does he, he just, my God, I love that child. He's so sweet. Was it his first tooth? Jonathan Wier (53:14) I don't Wier And Brown (53:15) You don't know? Jonathan Wier (53:17) He's eight, so it seems like he should have lost more than that by now. Wier And Brown (53:20) I feel like you should, yeah, definitely. Jonathan Wier (53:23) But I don't know that he, think it is his first tooth. It's bad when your kid has Googled whether the tooth fairy exists or not to ask you whether they're getting something from the tooth fairy. He did, no, this is last night when he lost a tooth. he got a tooth fairy charge of five bucks now per tooth inflation. Wier And Brown (53:31) Yeah. Well, I'm sure he will get something from the tooth fairy, no? Any tooth or the molars are worth more. Jonathan Wier (53:49) Are the molars worth more? That was never something established in my house. Wier And Brown (53:53) In Massachusetts, in my house, was, the, the Mollers you get more, but don't forget. We're also talking about the tooth fairy. Remember she did the buyback program. My dad bought the teeth back and he has, he kept them. Yeah. My sister and I's teeth, he bought them back from the tooth fairy at a much more reduced price and he has them. So from what he told me, we got a lot more for the Mollers. Jonathan Wier (53:55) huh. How much are the molars worth? right, I forgot your dad has a jar of your teeth. I thank God for the tooth fairy because if otherwise I wouldn't know what to do with these teeth. Like when the kids lose them. Yeah, thank God she takes them because otherwise I don't know I'd be flushing them down the toilet. I don't know what to do with the tooth. And I'm not like, I'm sorry. I'm a sentimental guy. I'm not holding onto teeth. What I don't even know what the point of that is. It's kind of, it's a little weird. Yeah. Wier And Brown (54:28) I know, right? Thank God she takes them. Yeah, right. my. You sure? I bet Katie is. I bet Katie's holding onto teeth. Okay. I'm very curious as Jonathan is going to ask you. geez. Jonathan Wier (55:01) Hey! Wier And Brown (55:14) I feel like we're getting a glimpse into Jonathan's world right now. Anyways, if you guys are still with us, thank you. Happy Tuesday. Thank you for all the support on this podcast. It really is just a passion project and a labor of love because you guys were such a great support for us over the years. So thank you. And what is the answer, Jonathan, as he returns back to his chair? Jonathan Wier (55:44) She keeps them in a box. She keeps them in a box. Guys, freaks! Wier And Brown (55:48) Girls are weird, we keep everything. Yeah, well, she did the buyback program with the Tooth Fairy. So, yeah, yeah. Jonathan Wier (55:54) The tooth very sure. So I don't know how much money I'm losing on this whole thing. Wier And Brown (55:58) Well, I think she sells them back to like pennies on the dollar. You're fine. Jonathan Wier (56:03) I just don't understand what, at least do something with them, but there's nothing to do with them that wouldn't be disgusting. Wier And Brown (56:11) let me just keep them, I guess. Like the baby's hair, the first locks of hair, which I just don't, I have Bear's first lock of hair and it's only because the hairdresser picked it up from the floor, put it in a piece of tin foil and said, you're gonna want this. And I'm like, I don't think I do. But I took it. Jonathan Wier (56:30) My parents bronzed my first knife that they gave me. I had a knife, shanked guy with it. They bronzed it. Wier And Brown (56:39) I don't even know what that means. Jonathan Wier (56:42) Baby's first knife. I don't know, it's not supposed to mean anything, it's just a dumb joke. alright, anything else, Ayla? Wier And Brown (56:48) sorry. no, happy, happy Tuesday, everyone. Thank you. Jonathan Wier (56:56) All right. I'll tell you what on the Patreon show on Thursday or whenever we do it, we're going to be playing a game called Florida or fake, where I'm going to give you a headline and we have to figure out whether it's from Florida for real or for fake. And, I don't know some other stuff. I'm sure things will happen in our lives by then. Yeah. All right, that's it. Wier And Brown (57:23) patreon.com slash Jonathan and Ayla sign up now. Sorry, I wanted to yell that out. Jonathan Wier (57:26) Sign up now so you can get us another time this week. Love you all. Bye. Is it stopping? Yes, it is stopping. There it goes. Wier And Brown (57:31) Bye everyone.