Chris Why? That's the thing I don't get about the cyber trucks. This is like, what would what would ever like entice you to purchase one of those if you're not an Elon D!ck rider? Andre Well, when he announced it, it was the only pickup truck that was electric, and he made a very it was ugly then, but for 39k Okay, 350, miles like a charge... Chris Cyber truck production seems to be slowing way down. Andre Imagine that. So remember when the cyber trick was introduced, it was introduced at 39k? Chris Yeah, I do. Do you remember when, like, what? Six months ago, if that, magically, that price disappeared from their website, and so did the $69,000 and now all you can buy is the 100k version? They have, what was it, 2 million pre orders or something like that, right? With $100 deposit. Andre There's a ton of people walking away from their $100 yeah. So the the math here, for me is like, I think Elon... Was he, he believes his own press, and he loved the fanfare, and it's not going to turn out very well, like I keep aside from this particular news, I'm hearing people like turning their leases. They're paying the early termination fees. I'm hearing that Tesla is the most recalled vehicle on the like, the Tesla brand is the most recalled brand across the board. Yep, they have the most recalls. I'm just not impressed. Like, I just, I love this news. I think it's great. Chris I think I told you a couple weeks ago, I was in Vancouver, lovely Vancouver, Canada for work, and my colleague had rented an electric car, and we ended up with a model three, and we got in it and couldn't figure out how to start it like it wouldn't go, and it was because we didn't have the key in the right place. And then we got on the road, and it started raining, and he couldn't figure out where the windshield wipers were, because it's all in, like the center console display thing. Then we got to the restaurant we were going to, we weren't sure how to turn the car off. We got out of the car, didn't know if it was locked, tried to get back in the car. Weren't sure how to lock it, unlock it, like it was just the stupid handles, like it's just everything is made. And I know, I know I'm like, I'm I'm why that sounds a problem. It is. It is a lot of it is. I recognize that, but it's just like so many of these things were not an issue that you're solving by putting it in an electronic control in the center console right, like having to look over here to tap a button to turn on the windshield wipers is not a good solution. That is a bad there's a worse solution than the stick right, and you can still clean the windshield wipers with the stick right, because they couldn't figure out how to make that a button on the screen. But you can't adjust the windshield wipers or turn them on like, I don't know it was. There were just so many things that it just and then, yeah, I've never been in the cyber truck, but they look like sh!t. I see like they are the stupidest things on the road. Andre Bro, you know me. I see every day. I'm Chris sure so many Bro. Speaker 1 Bro, are you seriously gonna go there? Bro, this is only one way back, bro, through intensive care. Bro, Chris did you? Did I send you the article about the people who had the raps on them and when they took them off, that like so people who just did like lettering it etched into onto the stainless steel, like the finish when they took it off, got it. People who did complete and entire wraps are noticing, like rusting and stuff like that underneath. In some cases they think that the wrap bonded to the stainless steel, and in other cases, they think that the combination of exposure of to the sun and stuff like that, and corrosive elements may have caused it to start Andre to be fair, to be fair, to be fun, to be fair, Chris but you can only get it in one color, so it's like, everybody's like, Oh, no problem. Just gonna throw a vinyl wrap on it. Like, Oh, wait, that might not. I can't wait until that turns out that, like, voids the warranty on it, you know, Andre to be fair, like we should have known when he hit it with a baseball bat. Mm, hmm, and the window, shat. Chris Oh, my God. Well, Andre yeah. Well, maybe you hit it too hard. No, motherf#@ker, it's do it again, Chris do the other one. And then, you know, they switch from the steel ball in the first demonstration to like an actual baseball in the second one. Andre So my argument has always been with Elon Musk, is he's not a he's a guy that had a stack of cash that got pushed forward. Yeah, he's not smart, like, We gotta stop making it. I've heard somebody say that's a probably just like a big fan boy, or just want some money from him. He's a brilliant engineer. He's not, yeah, he's like, a, I don't know what's worse than a Chinese knockoff Steve Jobs, but he's worse than that. He has no like, I'm not saying he's not smart, but he's not the thing you think he is. I just, I, yes, he's hired people to be around him that are smarter than he is, and he may interject some input on something that works, but Chris what's the proof of that? Right? Like, Where's the proof that anything that he's really suggested has Andre worked? I would give him maybe SpaceX, I don't know. That's Chris propped up by hundreds. I mean, at this point, probably hundreds of billions of dollars of government subsidies, yeah, but I say Yes, money. I mean, that's, that's, is that really successful? Like, no wonder he and Donald Trump are just like best friends. Now, you know, like these two were made for each other in that sense, I Andre don't like the guy. I really don't. I don't either. I do wish. I wish he does fail. Yes, and I want to, I want to be around Chris at this point I'm waiting for Donald Trump to like, issue an order saying that, like, all new mail trucks will be cyber trucks or something like that, just to, like, eat up all the inventory and spend a bunch of money to help his buddy. He Andre won't do that because they're they're failing on just the general delivery of the mail. Yeah, that too. So, and the strike with the letter carriers is ridiculous, so I really do hope he fails. I'm sorry. No, I'm not. Chris Don't apologize for that. Take the cyber trucks Andre ugly. I've only been inside of one Tesla, and it's a cool experience, right? I wouldn't they're ugly. On the outside, the vehicle is ugly. It's not a good looking vehicle, like the Hyundai IONIQ, those look cool. The rivians Chris look cool. I like the rivians. Yeah, yeah. Everything Andre else looks better, like even the Volvo, I think it's a CX 90 looks amazing as an EV and their hybrid looks as cool as the normal is. So it's like, Volkswagens, uh, EVs, they look great. The Tesla looks like crap, like, I just thought I would never drive one. Chris I'm just like, I get like, what has changed about them in Andre almost 20 years, nothing, nothing at all. Chris Where's the Roadster that we were promised? Right? Like that guy can for the cyber truck and the that did great. I mean, there's been no real advancements to the model three or the model Y or the Model X, like they're just the same basic cars that they've been for the last 1520, years. Andre And when I what I love the most about it is all the people that actually buy Teslas don't like Elon. They bought him, and now he's just like this. Yeah, completely beyond weirdo. And so they're Chris trying to get rid of them. I just saw. That's the thing I don't get about the cyber trucks. This is like, what would, what would ever like entice you to purchase one of those if you're not an Elon Dick rider. Andre Well, when he announced it, it was the only pickup truck that was electric, and he made a very it was ugly then, yeah, but for 39k okay, and 350 miles like charge. Chris And, I mean, I guess he did bank 200 million off of those $100 deposits, right. Andre Right. So you think about it, 39k truck. 350 miles, Chris he's a very good scam artist. Andre I thought you were gonna say a salesman, and I was gonna go why Chris a scam artist? Yeah, thanks for checking out the Chris and Andre show. Remember, unlike yourself in middle school, those like and subscribe buttons aren't gonna hit themselves. And be sure to leave a comment with your favorite part of the show or a topic you'd like us to cover in the future. 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